Objective truth/Truth deals with relationships

phoenix1

peace KGB,
the chair and table philosophy makes sense!

But what exactly are we debating here?
whether eating meat is good or not?

KGB

Peace be upon you,

However the chairs still slide under the table, regardless of the color

If this make sense than keep following him. ;D

phoenix1

peace KGB,

maybe if you made an effort to understand that analogy, it would make sense to you too. )

progod

Dear KGB,

Idol-free is talking about abstract practices that do have their worth when we are trying to understand what is true. He is basically, through examples trying to clarify that the word we use for 'truth' can mean more than one thing and that depending on the situation the truth can be different. What is 'true' doesn't always have to do with straight informative facts, but can also have to do with approriate relationships between different things, or natural functions, etc., etc.

I think that idol-free is a little eccentric at times and focuses on things that are not always very important in my view. But I think that what he is saying now definitely has some merit, although it is very abstract I admit. It's merit is in that we are all trying to seek "the truth" here so it is important to understand that "the truth" is not always that black and white bull's eye that we think it is.

Godbless,
Anwar

unknownuser

'Eccentric'... rotfl

KGB

Dear Anwar

Your judgement about being "ecentric" is very true. The problem is he try to defend everything he is absolute wisdom and he is the only one who understand Qur'an with this own twisted logic.

Peacue be upon you Anwer.

unknownuser

Peace be upon you KGB,

Sorry you feel that way, but you are always welcome to add your own understanding. Peace to you.

unknownuser

Peace all. I quoted the word eccentric because i found it funny...Im pretty eccentric myself... o yay
However,i feel brother idol-free (from his posts.) is a very enlightened and clever man,with brilliant ideas,and a sincere,open mind.... bravo sun
I think you have mis-understood him KGB...When i first used to read his posts i thought his ideas were indeed 'eccentric' and very strange...But now i know better...The man is a genius...

KGB

Peace be upon you Kyle

;D looking forward to have polite discussions with you.

Best regards no hard feelings.

KGB

Peace be upon you Kyle

Sorry if I hurt your feelings.

Best Regards

unknownuser

Peace be upon you KGB,

I have been here long enough not to allow words to influence my feelings. In fact I hope to stand as an example of how to respond with the good response rather than get sucked into my lower nature.

Dont worry about it and I look foward to having poilte discussion with you as well.

unknownuser

Peace idol-free. One of the reasons why i respect you,is precisely because you guard your lower emotions when provoked...A lesson for us all... bravo

progod

Idolfree,

Have you checked out those sites?

Godbless,
Anwar

unknownuser

Peace be upon you ProGod,

Have you checked out those sites?

No, I will go there now.

Are you still in Philly?

progod

No, unfortunately. I won't be back for a while either. Whussup?

Godbless,
Anwar