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A Challenge to Those Who Reject the Divinity of Al-Quraan

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    Wakas
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    peace enquirer, and thanks sc for posting that.

    I am interested in both, but I have a preference for (2) if I had to choose. So now thats sorted, do we have to wait till the mods accept, and then create a specifc thread?

    All information is correct to the best of my knowledge only and thus should not be taken as a fact. One should always seek knowledge and verify for themselves when possible: 17:36, 20:114, 35:28, 49:6, 58:11.

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      adley
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      Salaam Nadia,

      Thanks for including me in the list. ;D
      But I have to back down, because I don't think I have the knack in debates or being a moderator ;D ;D ;D

      My suggestion would be the rest of your list, yourself, Wakas, and AgentXXX. ;D (either one or two is fine)

      =adley=

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        unknownuser
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        Peace wakas. Ok,question 2 is great...We both agree on phoenix and idol-free....Agentxxx,Elke,magi,simple, and peacefulmuslim would also make good moderators in this debate,in my opinion....(if the others arent available.) We will wait for the named mods to respond....
        Peace all. ps;looking forward to a good,clean,productive,friendly debate..... yay bravo group

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          arnoldyasin
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          Peace,

          I don't mind particpating, but i don't have much time. And i would like to know what i exactly should do....

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            savage_carrot
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            Peace AY,

            Well, it doesn't have to be time dependent... I think after each response the moderators may comment on the post if they think it hasn't answered the other's side satisfactorily and may ask them to rephrase or clarify. Stuff like that. Basically be there to see that the debate is constructive, substantial and actually trying to go somewhere instead of causing frustration because the same things are repeated amongst other things. Ideally however, like salgan pointed out, the moderators in a debate should be impartial so that this is achieved. Hopefully, at the end of it, both parties and those observing can learn from the exchange.

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              arnoldyasin
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              Yes, i agree with this, This is important, plus all people can learn from this.

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                CavemanDoctor
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                Peace all. I don't mind moderating either.

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                  savage_carrot
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                  Thanks guys, in this particular case we are waiting to see if the mods named are available. I basically wanted to list some people I thought would make good moderators in a debate so that in the future people looking for mods have someone to choose from that they know are available.

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                    mquran
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                    Wakas, here are some humble suggestions for you, if that's ok

                    1. How literalism creates contradictions in the quranic text... Or,

                    Question him on his assumption. WHERE are the contradictions he claims to have been 'created'. Pursue him on every Arabic reference. He doesnt know Arabic and so will have severe problems trying to get the point across.

                    1. Are the quranic laws relevant for all times,or only the 'spirit/'implied morality' of these laws?

                    Ask him how his viewpoint is superior over the Quranic view point. Question his 'moral' assumptions.

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                      unknownuser
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                      Peace wakas. Yes,ask those questions that mquran is requesting....I am looking forward to a good exchange of views with someone who is open-minded,and realistic... )

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                        unknownuser
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                        Peace 'enquirer',

                        I am looking forward to a good exchange of views with someone who is open-minded,and realistic...

                        That's the spirit my friend. Go for it and I'm sure you're capable of dealing with Arabic references/language. Need any support in my limited capabilities, don't hesitate to pm me.

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                          We both agree on phoenix and idol-free....Agentxxx,Elke,magi,simple, and peacefulmuslim

                          why are so many moderators needed? lets stick to whom we agreed upon originally.

                          All information is correct to the best of my knowledge only and thus should not be taken as a fact. One should always seek knowledge and verify for themselves when possible: 17:36, 20:114, 35:28, 49:6, 58:11.

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                            savage_carrot
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                            Let's start the thread. We'll let enquirer make his first post and then the mods can jump in. Let's just get the ball rolling...

                            Enquirer- Would you like to title and create the thread with your opening post in this section??! Thanks!

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                              unknownuser
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                              Peace savage carrot. Ok,i will start the thread tommorow morning...
                              Just one point...Is this discussion between me and wakas? I think that would be good,as we can go point by point without interruptions...If anybody wants to ask a question or make a suggestion,they can pm me or wakas,and we can incorporate their advice in the debate...I say this because otherwise i have a feeling that several intruders will 'pollute' the thread,thus rendering the 'modified debate' the same as any other debate on the forum...Tell me if you think this is ok?
                              Peace all.

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                                savage_carrot
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                                Peace savage carrot. Ok,i will start the thread tommorow morning...
                                Just one point...Is this discussion between me and wakas? I think that would be good,as we can go point by point without interruptions...If anybody wants to ask a question or make a suggestion,they can pm me or wakas,and we can incorporate their advice in the debate...I say this because otherwise i have a feeling that several intruders will 'pollute' the thread,thus rendering the 'modified debate' the same as any other debate on the forum...Tell me if you think this is ok?
                                Sure, no one else will post on that thread except you, Wakas and the mods selected. If anyone else would like to discuss that particular thread, they are welcome to start a parallel thread in this section.

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                                  unknownuser
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                                  Peace SC. Ok,sounds good...I trust it will be a 'sticky',and that it can run for a week or two...?
                                  Thanks for your help... )

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                                    unknownuser
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                                    Peace danish...Thanks for your support...I look forward to your input by pm... bravo

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