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    prashant_kumar
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    This forum seemed to me to be the most shapeless, methodless and devoid of concrete base for thought. Any religion should have a cognitive part. It involves rules of thinking, rules of language, source of acquiring meaning of a text or a word etc. Without social and natural sciences, history and language, one can not move an inch in constructing an ideology, in understanding the ideology and in implementing the ideology in real life - individual and social.

    But I must accept and recognize one enormous gift from this forum. It is about the initial approach to Allah. It is the absolutely required approach to start and the attitude must be maintained through all the way ahead. Thanks to ALPHA97 for some of his posts. I learned my most important lessons from visiting this forum. And at the same time, I request all members here to be more careful about what you decide. Think yourself, talk to yourself, and try to find out the motives behind your mental movements and rationalizing efforts.

    To fit Islam with faulty tradition of the East is not good. Likewise, to fit Islam with faulty tendencies and accepted values of the West is also as bad.

    Thanks to everyone?Take care?

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      zenje
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      Peace be with you.

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        phoenix1
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        This forum seemed to me to be the most shapeless, methodless and devoid of concrete base for thought. Any religion should have a cognitive part.

        peace Prashant,

        it did seem like that to me at first, but then I got used to it and started to realize that this "shapeless, methodless" forum encourages people to discuss anything they want anyway they want here.

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          savage_carrot
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          Peace,

          To fit Islam with faulty tradition of the East is not good. Likewise, to fit Islam with faulty tendencies and accepted values of the West is also as bad.

          Indeed. Thank you for your observations.

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            alpha97
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            peace Prashant,

            Hakim Sanai says

            WE TRIED REASONING
            OUR WAY TO HIM
            IT DIDN?T WORK;
            BUT THE MOMENT WE GAVE UP,
            NO OBSTACLE REMAINED.
            HE INTRODUCED HIMSELF TO US
            OUT OF KINDNESS HOW ELSE
            COULD WE HAVE KNOWN HIM?
            REASON TOOK US AS FAR AS THE DOOR;
            BUT IT WAS HIS PRESENCE THAT LET US IN.

            peace

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              unknownuser
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              Peace to you Prashant_kumar,

              It seems to me that you've given up on free-minds? Please don't. Have an open mind. The beauty of this forum is that all are able to freely sound out the steps to their reasoning. You don't have to accept what anyone says on this forum! That's also another beautiful thing. With other forums, the admin's opinion is paramount and none can have any deviant thought after the almighty moderator has spoken. The idea of free thought really makes this website unique.

              It's great to look at other's perspectives and challenge their thoughts (respectfully of course) because that in turn challenges your own formulations! It really is a wonderful learning experience. Even all the posts and threads that you read that went against everything you believe in is good because it strengthens your faith even more! The key is to take everything with a grain of salt but also continue to evolve your own perspectives by challenging yourself...

              You're absolutely right, putting Western ideals up on a pedestal is just as bad as putting Eastern ideals up. It should be quranic ideals that we must strive for, whether they coincide with what feels right or not. We can't follow our desires. You raised some excellent points. Which is all the more reason why you should stay - to allow for others to benefit from your different way of thinking and to also keep evolving in your own journey to God.
              Salam

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