WHY NO ACTION IS TAKEN AGAINT DANISH?
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Salam to the moderators/administrators,
I have one simple question why no action is taken againt members like Danish who really does not share anything with the purpose of this forum and even mock at God and the scripture? Seriously I don't understand what is the purpose of tolerating members on this forum who clearly do not have a minimum common belief or interest.
Peace. Myr
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Hello Myr,
I have not once disrespected you and neither have you discussed any matters with me. Are you afraid of my criticisms or your book? If you are afraid of your book, then all you need is to discuss my criticisms presented. Here's one just for you
According to the Quran, was Firoun and his troops drowned (250, 2840, 17103) or were they preserved (1092)? Would you call this mocking or defecations and urinations as mquran would have put it? Are you willing to discuss this matter with me along with other Moses's tales?
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Salaamun alaikum Myr,
I applaud your straightforwardedness about Mr Everwhine here. The guy tries to play innocent by pretending to ask sincerely what you mean but of course it's all pretense.
Everwhine's tactic is as follows
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Coming in with the most rubbish, second-rate critiques which he can get off the net.
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Having sincere believers answer him.
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Completely ignoring them or changing the subject.
I'll show you evidence of this
DanishAccording to the Quran, was Firoun and his troops drowned (250, 2840, 17103) or were they preserved (1092)?
Look at the syntax of this..'was Firaun and his troops drowned OR were they preserved'.
Why is it 'OR' ? Why can't it be 'subsequently' ?
Secondly, did Everwhine actually read 10/92? If he did, why did he think Firaun's troops were preserved in body? The ayat only mentions Firaun.
Well done Myr, but your complain will fall on deaf ears.
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Here's one just for you
Just for her?, why not for all the Muslims then?, are you scared to discuss it with other Muslims?
Please allow me to have a go at it
According to the Quran, was Firoun and his troops drowned (250, 2840, 17103) or were they preserved (1092)?
Did you discover this yourself or just the typical used by date rants by the Quran rejectors?
Would you call this mocking or defecations and urinations
No, no, you did very well in putting the argument respectfully
Are you willing to discuss this matter with me along with other Moses's tales?
I?m willing so let me get into it
And when We parted the sea for you, so We saved you and drowned the followers of Firon and you watched by.
(50)
-> Clear from the above that Firon people were drowned
So We caught hold of him and his hosts, then We cast them into the sea, and see how was the end of the unjust.
(40)
-> Again, Firon and his soldiers drowned
So he desired to destroy them out of the earth, but We drowned him and those with him all together;
(103)
-> And again Firon and his people drowned
Now the enemy of Islam say that the following verse contradicts the above 3 verses, let?s see
This day shall We save thee in the body, that thou mayest be a sign to those who come after thee! but verily, many among mankind are heedless of Our Signs!
(92)
-> What can I say?, did the verse say that Firon was saved?, ABSOLUTELY NOT, it only said thay HIS BODY WAS SAVED ? ?, i. bloody e. ? We save thee in the body?, let me spell it mister Danish ?S A V E T H E E I N T H E B O D Y?, if it was said without the word ? ?, ? in the body? then the enemy of Islam will surely have a point, but to delibertly turn a blind eye on the word ?Be Badanika? tells me that they must have an agenda, and those who believe them are really the fools because the Quran clearly refute their non sense.
Saving the body of Firon was a must by Allah, in fact He told us that in the same verse 1092, we know that Firon claimed to be our God
23- Then he gathered (men) and called out.
24- Then he said I am your lord, the most high.(23)
(24)- See what Firon was doing ?he gathered (men) and called out?, then to the crowd, he announced that he is their god ? Then he said I am your lord, the most high.?
-> Many na?ve humans believed him indeed, therefore if he just drowned and his body disappeared in the sea then many of those humans might have said, ?HE WAS OUR GOD AND SURELY HE MUST HAVE SAVED HIMSELF AND WENT TO STAY IN THE HEAVEN WHERE HE SUPPOSE TO BE?, according to 7924 Firon told the crowd ?I am your lord, the most high?, ?Rabakum Al Aala?, i.e. ?your god who is up there in the heaven?
-> Therefore Allah planned that the sea expels the DEAD BODY of Firon so those who might have been thinking that Firon is a god can see his dead and helpless body in front of their eyes, the mothers of all refutes that Firon was not our God as he claimed.
-> In fact this is what Allah told us that He saved his body for all the generations after him to see and WOW, this is what happened exactly, his body was preserved by the old Egyptians and his mummy now sits in the Egyptian museum FOR ALL GENERATIONS TO SEE, therefore 1092 is actually another miracle in the Quran and a clear proof that not Mohammad nor a bunch of wise men wrote this book, because even if they knew the history that his dead body was expelled by the sea how they knew that his body will stay preserved then be discovered over a thousand years later for the people in year 2000 and beyond to see?, his mummy was discovered not far ago, how the Author of the Quran knew that UNLESS IT IS ALLAH WHO AUTHORED THE QURAN?, let?s look at the miracle in 1092 in details
-> ? ?, ? We save thee in the body, that thou mayest be a sign to those who come after thee?, see, Allah is telling us why He saved Firon dead body, ? that thou mayest be a sign to those who come after thee?, the Arabic words ? ?, ?Le Mn Khalafaka?, ? to those who come after thee? is a clear Quranic Miracle ladies and gents, and if you ever visit Egypt, I encourage you to visit the Egyptian museum to see his dead body for yourself and confirm that 1092 is yet anoter Quran Miracle.
What left for me to discuss is to show everyone that the crucial word ?Be Badanika? that the enemy of Islam deliberately ignored was never mentioned in many cases where humans were saved by Allah and only the word ?Nungika? or different formats of it was used
But the answer of his folk was only that they said "Kill him" or "Burn him." Then Allah saved him from the Fire. Lo! herein verily are portents for folk who believe.
(24)
-> Here we read how Allah saved Ibrahim, we only read the word ?Angah?, we never read the word ?in the body? in the case of Ibrahim, ? ?, ? Burn him. Then Allah saved him from the Fire.?, in fact it was only Firon the word ?in the body? was used, i.e. ONLY HIS BODY WAS SAVED
Firon is a special person in the Quran, he was mentioned a lot because HE CLAIMED TO BE OUR GOD, and if you read the Quran well you will read that HE WAS PROMISED THE TOUGHEST OF ALL PUNISHMENT
The fire; they shall be brought before it (every) morning and evening and on the day when the hour shall come to pass Make Firon's people enter the severest chastisement.
(46)
-> See, ? on the day when the hour shall come to pass Make Firon's people enter the severest chastisement.?
HOW DUMB FOR THE ENEMY OF ISLAM TO THINK THAT ALLAH SAVED FIRON?, well they have to manipulate 1092 and ignore the word ?Be Badanika? for them to look smart
Another slam dunk mister Danish
Salam
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Are you afraid of my criticisms or your book? If you are afraid of your book, then all you need is to discuss my criticisms presented.
Either this person is completely deluded or he's quite a liar. Danish has given criticisms of AQ in the past but has never stood up to respond to responses. I now realise that to call him an 'intellectual eunuch' is wrong because there's nothing intellectual about him. He's simply a psycho who needs a place to be psychotic. And thanks to the graciousness of this forum, he's found it.
DanishAre you willing to discuss this matter with me along with other Moses's tales?
I'm willing to discuss anything with you on the condition that you discuss instead of running off whenever your criticism's been answered. Ok, so you don't believe in Allah, that's your affair but do you not also believe in DECENCY? Is it 'decent' to provoke answers but run when answers have been given.
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Well put discussion, AB. Shows that 'budn' is not the same as 'nafs'. If it was 'bi nafsika' it would indeed be a contradiction.
I fixed a few typos as normal bro
take care
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It seems this Danish chap is really starting to tick off more than a few people around here..perhaps becoming a disruptive force that is taking the enjoyment of the forum away for many.
Another angle to consider is...does he force one to think about the issue, educate themselves further and serve a purpose in this manner? On the other hand, is this the manner in which people want to have to think of these issues or has it become a nuisance?
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PinkAnother angle to consider is...does he force one to think about the issue, educate themselves further and serve a purpose in this manner? On the other hand, is this the manner in which people want to have to think of these issues or has it become a nuisance?
Speaking for myself, I say force shouldn't be needed to think about an issue. An issue as important as this - giving our loyalty to an external entity - is heavy and so needs heavy thought. My loyalty to this deen isn't blind and is open to criticism. But yes, the manner with which he levels his criticism, that's the problem.
Personally, I'd like to see progress. Danish is anti-progress. He works on the broken record m.o. He cannot have a meaningful exchange and move on because it then nullifies his whole purpose of being here to vent.
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Peace All
Excellent work AB.
I'd also like to add that they did tests on the body and found that this particular pharoah died specifically of drowning. He was put on tour in many cities of the world including many in the U.S. for the world to be witness. Praise be to God.
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Peace all,
Before I posted my response to Myr, I knew a madman will quickly come to distract this thread once again and followed by his supporters. I am disappointed that Myr has not responded to my post for her grudges and my concern directed just to her. Attack, hide and let others take over.
Now read and understand carefully how this insane ayatullah (aka 'prophet of doom' has exposed his idiocy unto himself again
I'll show you evidence of this
DanishAccording to the Quran, was Firoun and his troops drowned (250, 2840, 17103) or were they preserved (1092)?
Look at the syntax of this..'was Firaun and his troops drowned OR were they preserved'.
Why is it 'OR' ? Why can't it be 'subsequently' ?
This madman dashes out and shows his EVIDENCE in bold above. His questions become his evidence? rotfl brickwall
...and then this madman utters
why did he think Firaun's troops were preserved in body?
Check this link http//www.free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=5879.0 and find out why bodies were preserved during ancient times which has already been discussed.
The ayat only mentions Firaun.
The specific ayat (1092) doesn't mention Firaun by name. Another error. Have you yourself read this ayat?
Well done Myr, but your complain will fall on deaf ears.
yeah Please expose more of your idiocies for members to witness because I'm just lovin it, every inch of it.
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It seems this Danish chap is really starting to tick off more than a few people around here..perhaps becoming a disruptive force that is taking the enjoyment of the forum away for many.
Another angle to consider is...does he force one to think about the issue, educate themselves further and serve a purpose in this manner? On the other hand, is this the manner in which people want to have to think of these issues or has it become a nuisance?
Just a few days ago, this ?pinky? wrote
The impression I get is that this place is for people to discuss many different issues and doesn't really have it's own 'dogma' or 'school of thought' other than an emphasis on the Qur'an. To me, trying to 'convert' people to 'our way of thinking' kinda sets this place up to being yet another sect....know what I mean?
And last month
As the forum is named, it is free-minds, you are allowed to think for yourself. In my opinion, we should all strive to learn to have tolerance for each others opinions, and to become good listeners. Most here are very open minded this way.
Pinky, you are beginning to sound like Leyla. Surprisingly, it was Leyla who first came barging in just to attack me, then came Samia, then s2s and now Myr and ThePinky. Except for s2s, none of these girls actually discussed anything with me but are only here to get personal and make this forum a fierce battle ground; one against all. Insane ayatullah hiding behind the hijabs of girls and getting full support with unrelenting and alienated success.
I'd also like to add that they did tests on the body and found that this particular pharoah died specifically of drowning. He was put on tour in many cities of the world including many in the U.S. for the world to be witness.
Bring your evidence that it was ONLY one specific pharaoh who got drowned and then preserved? How did this specific pharaoh got mummified after drowning while several others have been found in the same state, shape and form? How does the world know that it was this specific pharaoh who troubled Moses among all others found? Did Moses?s people dived back into the deep open sea digging them out and preserving them or did the entire sea suddenly dried out after drowning them all so that Moses?s people could mummify them for future preservation? LOL, people are sounding sillier and crazier than I thought just to defend their ?divine? book. Here?s some more on this http//www.free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=5879.0.
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Peace Danish
I didn't mean to ever personally attack you, although you did to me for no apparent reason except that I stated my opinion and you called it "barging in"... But anyway, I don't hold grudges so I'm not angry. If I came across as attacking you personally, I sincerely apologize. That really isn't my style at all and I don't like to be that way. That doesn't mean that I have to accept what anyone states. I can disagree, and if it's the disagreement you didn't like.. well that's life. But I think you - more than anyone else in this forum - can appreciate a difference of opinion because you seem to have very different opinions. So this leads me to believe that I really did say something somewhere to offend you, and again I'm sorry. I hope you are big enough to accept a humble apology from your sister
Peace
P.S. Do God-Aloners wear hijab...? That's a real question not sarcasm.
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Before I posted my response to Myr, I knew a madman will quickly come to distract this thread once again and followed by his supporters. I am disappointed that Myr has not responded to my post for her grudges and my concern directed just to her. Attack, hide and let others take over.
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Man, you are fast drawing conclusions. I work all day long and don't have the time luxury like most of the members to spend hours on this forum.
I will not answer or debate anything with you because first my message was not addressed to you but to the moderators/administrators and second I go by the verse 4140, I do not mingle with people who clearly have no respect whatsoever for the ONE who created them nor for HIS scripture. I will just tell one thing to all the members who do not believe in the Quran and in the ONE who revealed it. There are plenty of other forums for you where you can express your "spirituality" if any. You are entitled and given the total freedom to believe in anything you want and disbelieve in anything you want as per the verse 1829 but you have no place among the believers if your purpose is to mock at God and its scripture. And I urge all my Sisters and Brothers who really fear the ONE who created them and believe in the scriptures sent by HIM to really apply 4140 and not allow themselves to be part of the devil plot, it is a waste of energy and time to mingle or debate anything with these people and their example is clearly outlined in the Quran.I feel sorry for the admnistrators/moderators, I realize they are not that different from the way the Arab league operates or the UN, bureacracy and hierarchy that produce no action, nothing. In fact, they are even not up to the mission of free-minds described on the site. Very sad.
Peace. Myr.
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Peace Sis Myr
And I urge all my Sisters and Brothers who really fear the ONE who created them and believe in the scriptures sent by HIM to really apply 4140
Excellent advice
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The Egyptians believed their pharaoh was both a god and a monarch. A monarch is a king or a queen. Egypt was ruled by many pharaohs, but a few stand out. Like the one mentioned in the Quran and some that built extravagant tombs which stood the test of time.
All pharaohs lived their lives and had their bodies mummified while the one mentioned in the Quran drowned.
I have one suggestion for some people who lack basic mutual respect for one another, whose purpose is only to make a free display of their sarcasms and hatred via their postings - Just ignore them! )
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Before I posted my response to Myr, I knew a madman will quickly come to distract this thread once again and followed by his supporters. I am disappointed that Myr has not responded to my post for her grudges and my concern directed just to her. Attack, hide and let others take over.
Man, you are fast drawing conclusions.
LOL! It is YOU who started this aggression by putting forth your own fast drawing conclusions about me. For crying out loud, why didn't you PM the moderators. Ofcourse not, you wanted this entire forum to get ready for a battle and here you have it. Another fast drawing conclusion and a LIE you bought forward is this "I don't understand what is the purpose of tolerating members on this forum who clearly do not have a minimum common belief or interest.".
Listen, this forum is not designed specifically for people like you either, because you promote and believe in Hislam and reject Mislam and Codelam. Most people here that I've known do not believe in the crap you believe in and have drained them out of their system (such as salat, zakat, haj, etc.), so then why don't you do yourself a favor and dwell in sunni forums if this one hurts you that bad. We are all here discussing this book called Quran in their own ways and by all means have the slightest decency to participate, listen and understand what everyone has to say.
I work all day long and don't have the time luxury like most of the members to spend hours on this forum. I do not mingle with people who clearly have no respect whatsoever for the ONE who created them nor for HIS scripture. I will not answer or debate anything with you because first my message was not addressed to you but to the moderators/administrators.
Certainly, I can very well understand your FEAR and DISRESPECT you've shown. You could have PM'ed your silly concern to mods/admins instead of provoking others and creating a menace. Don't waste your time if you work all day long and have no time for the mess you've gotten everyone into. Learn your lessons.
And I urge all my Sisters and Brothers who really fear the ONE who created them and believe in the scriptures sent by HIM to really apply 4140
How do you know that the ONE is HIM (a male deity) who sent this scripture? You can only mislead your brothers and sisters to become idolworshippers like you and take them all with you to something called 'Hell' in heavens as per Muhammad. That's the best you can do.
and not allow themselves to be part of the devil plot, it is a waste of energy and time to mingle or debate anything with these people and their example is clearly outlined in the Quran.
The devils are erected at Mina where people like you love to visit them every now and then throwing pebbles at them and then invoke others to do the same. That's what I call the devil plot.
I feel sorry for the admnistrators/moderators, I realize they are not that different from the way the Arab league operates or the UN, bureacracy and hierarchy that produce no action, nothing. In fact, they are even not up to the mission of free-minds described on the site. Very sad.
I feel exactly the same about you. Indeed, very sad. It seems that you are following the footsteps of an insane ayatullah .
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The specific ayat (1092) doesn't mention Firaun by name. Another error. Have you yourself read this ayat?
Nice try, Everwhine. Too much 'dung sura' readings has clogged your brain. Why don't you try actually reading it instead of the misreading you usually do? From 10/90, who is being spoken to ? 10/92 addreses ONE person, not many , a fact you'd no doubt know if you're reading was 1/10th as good as your flatulent posting.
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MyrI will just tell one thing to all the members who do not believe in the Quran and in the ONE who revealed it. There are plenty of other forums for you where you can express your "spirituality" if any.
Hear, hear.
Danish isn't here to 'express his sprituality'. He's here to defecate and urinate upon the beliefs of others. He has no other place to vent.
I feel sorry for the admnistrators/moderators, I realize they are not that different from the way the Arab league operates or the UN, bureacracy and hierarchy that produce no action, nothing. In fact, they are even not up to the mission of free-minds described on the site. Very sad.
One difference. The UN is a paper tiger while our mods have the power. They just choose not to use it. In my view, the Quranic response would be to eliminate troublemakers (defined as ppl who are out to insult and mock without ever having discussed anything) from this forum.
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Danish Listen, this forum is not designed specifically for people like you either, because you promote and believe in Hislam and reject Mislam and Codelam. Most people here that I've known do not believe in the crap you believe in and have drained them out of their system (such as salat, zakat, haj, etc.), so then why don't you do yourself a favor and dwell in sunni forums if this one hurts you that bad.
This goes to show that Everwhine lacks the basic intelligence to understand something so simple.
It's not about your opinion. It's about HOW YOU PRESENT your opinion. You don't present your opinion, you come and vomit out views of people you've never read like the suralikeit where you had to pretend to have read. You never answer for your views because lets face it, you lack the intelligence to do so.
We are all here discussing this book called Quran in their own ways and by all means have the slightest decency to participate, listen and understand what everyone has to say.
Firstly, the book is called 'al-quraan', not 'quran', exposing your LACK of reading once again.
Secondly, 'slightest decency' you do NOT have. If you did, you wouldn't waste others people's time by not answering to their responses.
Your lack of character was exposed during the pork issue when you were worried that AQ wasn't catering to ppl who eat pigs. That shows your lack of integrity. You tried to pretend as if following AQ was actually abandoning God when in truth, you never believed in God at all. Just your ego.
Certainly, I can very well understand your FEAR and DISRESPECT you've shown. You could have PM'ed your silly concern to mods/admins instead of provoking others and creating a menace. Don't waste your time if you work all day long and have no time for the mess you've gotten everyone into. Learn your lessons
Fear? lol...It's really laughable. If you really think your posting invoke fear, then lets debate. I think you need to beyond your pathetic 'drowning/preserved' contradiction. Maybe we can debate your fear of God is incorrect disaster ?
The devils are erected at Mina where people like you love to visit them every now and then throwing pebbles at them and then invoke others to do the same. That's what I call the devil plot.
Yes, so chucking you down that hole would be appropriate , huh ?