Pharaoh's dead body!Woe!
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Sorry to send a second post ,
but look at how the word
the word save thee is used its actualy saving because of faith.
and not physical bodies throughout the quran-you check it though.
Thumma nunajjee allatheena ittaqawwanatharu alththalimeena feehajithiyyan
But We shall save those who guarded against evil, and We shall leave the wrong-doers therein, (humbled) to their knees.
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Faistajabna lahu wanajjaynahumina alghammi wakathalika nunjee almu/mineena
So We listened to him and delivered him from distress and thus do We deliver those who have faith.Gods Blessings.
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i think the message of Pharoah's demise is you can't purposely be all evil all your life and when you finally SEE death say 'oh i believe now !' Did God forgive him or not ? Only He Himself knows that... and He's the Most Merciful. But he's also the Most Fair (IMO).
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Hello All
Allah told us that the belief will not be accepted under three conditions
They do not wait aught but that the angels should come to them, or that your Lord should come, or that some of the signs of your Lord should come. On the day when some of the signs of your Lord shall come, its faith shall not profit a soul which did not believe before, or earn good through its faith. Say Wait; we too are waiting.
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?They do not wait aught but that the angels should come to them?, i.e. at the moment of death
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? or that your Lord should come?, again at the moment of death or at the moment of the JD
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? On the day when some of the signs of your Lord shall come?, i.e. the signs of the JD
under any of the above ? its faith shall not profit a soul which did not believe before?
That is why Allah won?t accept Firon submission because he falls under either 1 or 2 above
Salam
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peace AB
makes sense because its kind of unfair if somebody works their whole life and somebody like pharoah accepts belief at the last minute while doing whatever he pleased before-hand... if pharoah wasn't given the message maybe you could make a case for him, but he was and he didn't believe till he saw death and realized 'damn i am not as powerful as i thought !'
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peace AB
makes sense because its kind of unfair if somebody works their whole life and somebody like pharoah accepts belief at the last minute while doing whatever he pleased before-hand... if pharoah wasn't given the message maybe you could make a case for him, but he was and he didn't believe till he saw death and realized 'damn i am not as powerful as i thought !'
Exactly mate, this verse also will put R K (J D) prediction to shame, because it will defeat the whole purpose as you just said
salam bro
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Salaams all,
I may be mistaken but may be some people think you aren?t forgiven if you became a believer at the very last minute
Let?s see an example
Supposing Ahmed sees sh-t on his door step every morning but suddenly one day he sees a golden nugget - that is pure gold will he throw it away just because he used to throw away the sh-t.
No offence meant Ahmed.
No He didn't drown neither but we will leave that for another Day.
Peace.
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Salaams all,
I may be mistaken but may be some people think you arent forgiven if you became a believer at the very last minute
Lets see an example
Supposing Ahmed sees sh-t on his door step every morning but suddenly one day he sees a golden nugget - that is pure gold will he throw it away just because he used to throw away the sh-t.
No offence meant Ahmed.
No He didn't drown neither but we will leave that for another Day.
Peace.
Bro that was a Tom and Jerry example
any way, of course I will throw the shit and take the nugget then sell it
I hope it happens bro
Salam
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Peace,
God does not shy away from citing the example of a mosquito, or anything above it. 226
This day, We will preserve your body, so that you become a sign for those after you. But most of the people are unaware of Our signs! 1092
If I'm correct then God made the preserved body of the Pharaoh as a sign for us. Simply because He can. And who said that God didn't forgive him? Maybe He did. And it's not as if death is an awfull thing.
peace
Heart
Peace sister
I consider you statement about Firon is very ignornat because simply Firon said he is God, now try and do it and see if God will forgive you or not
salkam
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Salaams all,
I may be mistaken but may be some people think you aren?t forgiven if you became a believer at the very last minute
Let?s see an example
Supposing Ahmed sees sh-t on his door step every morning but suddenly one day he sees a golden nugget - that is pure gold will he throw it away just because he used to throw away the sh-t.
No offence meant Ahmed.
No He didn't drown neither but we will leave that for another Day.
Peace.
Bro that was a Tom and Jerry example
any way, of course I will throw the s*** and take the nugget then sell it
I hope it happens bro
Salam
My apologies, the example was that of pharoh - working against God everyday ( a piece of sh-t) and then one day becoming a believer or a golden nugget, which you kept .
And what does God do to believers? irrespective of their history?
I doubt it says anywhere that he considers them Tresh or worse then that if it does, would need to know where so.
Gods Blessings.
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My apologies, the example was that of pharoh - working against God everyday ( a piece of sh-t) and then one day becoming a believer or a golden nugget, which you kept .
ok so you were talking metaphor, nice one bro
And what does God do to believers? irrespective of their history?
What?,
I don't know, do you know?
I doubt it says anywhere that he considers them Tresh or worse then that if it does, would need to know where so.
Translation please
Gods Blessings.
Cheers
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Peace,
God does not shy away from citing the example of a mosquito, or anything above it. 226
This day, We will preserve your body, so that you become a sign for those after you. But most of the people are unaware of Our signs! 1092
If I'm correct then God made the preserved body of the Pharaoh as a sign for us. Simply because He can. And who said that God didn't forgive him? Maybe He did. And it's not as if death is an awfull thing.
peace
Heart
Peace sister
I consider you statement about Firon is very ignornat because simply Firon said he is God, now try and do it and see if God will forgive you or not
salkam
Salam AB,
Does it mean you do know how God works?
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Salam AB,
Does it mean you do know how God works?
Salam sister
of course I kow how Allah works as far as Allah told us in the Quran
Cheers
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Salam AB,
Does it mean you do know how God works?
Salam sister
of course I kow how Allah works as far as Allah told us in the Quran
Cheers
Peace AB,
You seem so sure of yourself. Or should I say 'full' of yourself?
"The God does not forgive that partners be established with Him, but He forgives other than that to whom He wishes." (4/4
peace
Heart
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Salam AB,
Does it mean you do know how God works?
Salam sister
of course I kow how Allah works as far as Allah told us in the Quran
Cheers
Peace AB,
You seem so sure of yourself. Or should I see 'full' of yourself?
"The God does not forgive that partners be established with Him, but He forgives other than that to whom He wishes." (4/4
peace
Heart
Salam
of course I'm so sure, now what do you mean by the above exactly sister?
of course Firon made partners to Allah, he made himself a partner, haha, a child will recognise that
Thanks for proving my point
now you can see how confident I'm and how ignorant you are
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Hey heart
who are you exactly to say Allah may forgive Firon?
this is the most silliest comment I ever read on the internet, you desreve a grammy for that
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The notion of making partners to GOD (a cosmological one) is a ridiculous and outrageous claim. Can anyone prove that any single person on earth became a partner to GOD?
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what a stupid question that was Danish, thanks for the laugh bro LOL
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Salam AB,
Does it mean you do know how God works?
Salam sister
of course I kow how Allah works as far as Allah told us in the Quran
Cheers
Peace AB,
You seem so sure of yourself. Or should I see 'full' of yourself?
"The God does not forgive that partners be established with Him, but He forgives other than that to whom He wishes." (4/4
peace
Heart
Salam
of course I'm so sure, now what do you mean by the above exactly sister?
of course Firon made partners to Allah, he made himself a partner, haha, a child will recognise that
Thanks for proving my point
now you can see how confident I'm and how ignorant you are
Peace AB,
Firaun made partners (himself) to Allah but didn't he change his mind? How many stories can we find of idolworshippers who then rejected idolworshipping and returned back to Allah? The only difference is that Firaun died right after he changed his mind. We don't know if that's to late. We know God from the Quran but we don't know Him completely. To say that you're sure about it doesn't mean it is in fact the truth. It's just an assumption.
peace
Heart