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    unknownuser
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    Peace,

    Hi

    Ahmed, don?t worry I?m not offended by your opinion. I admit that I sometimes can be ignorant of the Quran since I?m not finished examining it yet.

    Cool, it was an honest opinion from my side anyway, I don?t know you to defame you

    So I?m not offended by your opinion.

    Great

    And yes, I think you?re full of yourself and also extremly rude.

    Well, If I conclude that a person is bloody rude I won?t direct comments to him/her, can you do the same?

    For me full of myself comment, fine I take it from you that I?m as such, but only from your perspective, from mine though it is called confidence/experience

    You really need to work on your way of communicating with people.

    No I don?t, because the ones who appreciate my style are far more than the losers who don?t, so why I should care for them and change my life style?

    Indeed I don?t want to talk to them, they are the ones who want to talk to me, LOL

    And as a direct and honest person I will tell you that you bring a very negative vibe to this forum

    Why you are still here then?

    I guess you need to leave then

    ( I don?t know how others think about this, but that?s just my opinion).

    and will always stay as your opinion and sure has no value whatsoever to me, but thanks for your honesty anyway

    And no, I?m not only talking about your postings on this topic directed to me but about all your other postings in general.

    Damn, why you read the comments of an extremely rude man?

    I guess you have yourself only to blame

    You?re really rude and need to work on your skills of how to communicate with people.

    Damn, didn?t you say this before?

    Ok that must be take 2

    Saying ?peace? and then in an unfriendly manner continue your reply is not a polite and respectful way of communication. This is not the purpose of saying ?peace? at the beginning.

    Well miss ignorant, Peace for me means greeting, i.e Salam, it has nothing to do with me offering peace to anyone.

    You begin with ?peace? as this is your goal in your whole post and conduct.

    Would that be take 2 again?

    Why you need to say things more than once?

    You?ve got a very aggressive and sarcastic approach that you tend to disguise.

    No no, you got this wrong, I don?t disguise anything neither I?m charming

    Please be conscious of the way you?re communicating and work on improving it. The way you will respond to this will show your maturity.

    Ignored

    Now I ask you that you ignore me and I will ignore you, if you post an ignorant comment about the Quran, trust me you will see me behind your back exposing your ignorance but I won?t direct my comments to you any more I will only direct it to the public, you have been dismissed sister

    To stay ontopic, I may have reacted on this subject without fully understanding what ?shirk? is really about. So I did some research and found out that my theory about ?shirk? wasn?t really correct. My understanding of shirk was that God took offence of people making partners with Him. I was wrong. God never claimed to have any emotions and ofcourse He prohibited idolworshipping for our own good, like all the other rules He made for our own good. Believing in another system besides Gods perfect system means living a lie. People who ignore Gods system are far from the Truth. That?s why idolworshipping is a harmful deed. It?s like living in an illusion.

    It says "God forgiveth not 'SHIRK', but forgiveth anything else according to His
    Will" - (448-116).

    The above verse is because I thought God could forgive the Pharaoh because he believed in the existence of Him right after he died. But I realise that God says it didn?t matter now, because he had lived a lie his whole life. He found out about the truth right when he died. Living according to the Truth, and by thus believing in Allah as one and only Rabb, determines your choices in life. All of your choices in life are formed through your knowledge and beliefs. If the beliefs are wrong, you will make also the wrong decisions, and so will not fully develop and prepare your Self/nafs for the Next Life. So believing in the Truth in the last minute of your life has no purpose, as you can?t make any decisions anymore to form his Self/nafs in the right way. It is discovering the spoon while you already ate the soup. To late to change his life and therefore his Self/nafs to be prepared for Paradise in the Afterlife.

    peace

    Heart

    because you have been dismissed I have to ignore the above paragraph, this is my rules

    have a nice day and all the best

    Salam

    PS I mean greeting ?like bye?, therefore I'm not offering you any peace

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      unknownuser
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      Ahmed, please clarify the following point?

      What does it mean by "partner to GOD"? How does a human become a partner to GOD? Please explain?

      Danish

      Firtsly, why you consider humans only to be made partners of God?

      Anything can be made partner of God directly or indirectly

      1. Directly, is by making another thing as a god, like

      a) a planet
      b) a star
      c) a jinn
      d) a human
      e) the low self desires
      f) a statue
      g) an angel
      etc?.

      1. Indirectly, only applies to humans and is simply by obeying Satan and not obeying Allah

      point 2 was stated clearly in the Quran

      therefore all the humans on earth who listen to Satan calls are Mishrikoon, including you, the jews, the christians and many of the Muslims

      Salam

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        Heart
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        Peace Ahmed,

        Never mind my posting then. Continue to be the way you are. I guess being harsh is much easier then being friendly and respectful towards people.

        Ciao.

        Heart

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          unknownuser
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          Peace,

          magi, good analysis. I believe the verse refers both to his body and what you are implying. I don't restrict it here to one option.

          peace

          I agree we shouldnt, but with the current data present (dont they look at the etc....) this for now is the one that makes more sense to me.

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            Peace

            Achmed dont you ever get tired of being so judgemental? You can remember the scripture that much is clear, now do as it says, your behaviour is so far from what you claim to be, its not even remotely funny. And its even less funny to have someone like you suggest that i am an enemy of God, especially as you obviously havent god a clue as to what im reffering to with my analysis.

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              Heart
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              Peace

              Achmed dont you ever get tired of being so judgemental? You can remember the scripture that much is clear, now do as it says, your behaviour is so far from what you claim to be, its not even remotely funny. And its even less funny to have someone like you suggest that i am an enemy of God, especially as you obviously havent god a clue as to what im reffering to with my analysis.

              Peace Magi,

              Just curious... why have you been labeled as an enemy of God? PM me if you rather not bring it up again here. Or ignore I asked if you don't want to answer my question. I'm just being curious.

              peace

              Heart

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                splatter
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                Peace,

                Ahmed, dont worry Im not offended by your opinion. I admit that I sometimes can be ignorant of the Quran since Im not finished examining it yet. So Im not offended by your opinion. And yes, I think youre full of yourself and also extremly rude. You really need to work on your way of communicating with people. And as a direct and honest person I will tell you that you bring a very negative vibe to this forum ( I dont know how others think about this, but thats just my opinion). And no, Im not only talking about your postings on this topic directed to me but about all your other postings in general. Youre really rude and need to work on your skills of how to communicate with people. Saying peace and then in an unfriendly manner continue your reply is not a polite and respectful way of communication. This is not the purpose of saying peace at the beginning. You begin with peace as this is your goal in your whole post and conduct. Youve got a very aggressive and sarcastic approach that you tend to disguise. Please be conscious of the way youre communicating and work on improving it. The way you will respond to this will show your maturity.

                To stay ontopic, I may have reacted on this subject without fully understanding what shirk is really about. So I did some research and found out that my theory about shirk wasnt really correct. My understanding of shirk was that God took offence of people making partners with Him. I was wrong. God never claimed to have any emotions and ofcourse He prohibited idolworshipping for our own good, like all the other rules He made for our own good. Believing in another system besides Gods perfect system means living a lie. People who ignore Gods system are far from the Truth. Thats why idolworshipping is a harmful deed. Its like living in an illusion.

                It says "God forgiveth not 'SHIRK', but forgiveth anything else according to His
                Will" - (448-116).

                The above verse is because I thought God could forgive the Pharaoh because he believed in the existence of Him right after he died. But I realise that God says it didnt matter now, because he had lived a lie his whole life. He found out about the truth right when he died. Living according to the Truth, and by thus believing in Allah as one and only Rabb, determines your choices in life. All of your choices in life are formed through your knowledge and beliefs. If the beliefs are wrong, you will make also the wrong decisions, and so will not fully develop and prepare your Self/nafs for the Next Life. So believing in the Truth in the last minute of your life has no purpose, as you cant make any decisions anymore to form his Self/nafs in the right way. It is discovering the spoon while you already ate the soup. To late to change his life and therefore his Self/nafs to be prepared for Paradise in the Afterlife.

                peace

                Heart

                Peace Heart,

                I agree and support your opinion. His agressive, sarcastic, "holier than you" and "I am right, so you must be wrong" attitude repulses me. I've learnt to ignore his postings. His trademark is spewing quranic verses in big blue letters, and anyone who disagree with his views will be given a dose of rude or sarcastic or "I am more intelligent" or "you are an enemy of islam" remarks. It's not about obeying god anymore; it's about obeying AB.

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                  unknownuser
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                  Peace

                  Achmed dont you ever get tired of being so judgemental? You can remember the scripture that much is clear, now do as it says, your behaviour is so far from what you claim to be, its not even remotely funny. And its even less funny to have someone like you suggest that i am an enemy of God, especially as you obviously havent god a clue as to what im reffering to with my analysis.

                  You too have been dismissed

                  who is next?

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                    unknownuser
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                    you too have joined the dismissals

                    have an itchy day

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                      unknownuser
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                      Peace Ahmed,

                      Never mind my posting then. Continue to be the way you are. I guess being harsh is much easier then being friendly and respectful towards people.

                      Ciao.

                      Heart

                      Oh please, don't direct any comments to me after your dismissal

                      be smart like your friend splatter

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                        Heart
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                        Peace Ahmed,

                        Never mind my posting then. Continue to be the way you are. I guess being harsh is much easier then being friendly and respectful towards people.

                        Ciao.

                        Heart

                        Oh please, don't direct any comments to me after your dismissal

                        be smart like your friend splatter

                        'To exist is to change, to change is to mature, to mature is to go on creating oneself endlessly.' - Henri Bergson

                        Wa salam,

                        Heart

                        P.S. I have just another comment in German'HEIL AHMED!'

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                          unknownuser
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                          P.S. I have just another comment in German'HEIL AHMED!'

                          Fine, here is a comment in Arabic "Muzzah Heart"

                          Danke

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                            Peace

                            Achmed dont you ever get tired of being so judgemental? You can remember the scripture that much is clear, now do as it says, your behaviour is so far from what you claim to be, its not even remotely funny. And its even less funny to have someone like you suggest that i am an enemy of God, especially as you obviously havent god a clue as to what im reffering to with my analysis.

                            Peace Magi,

                            Just curious... why have you been labeled as an enemy of God? PM me if you rather not bring it up again here. Or ignore I asked if you don't want to answer my question. I'm just being curious.

                            peace

                            Heart

                            Peace

                            becasue our god here on the board says so. What achmed dont understand is that the only one who judges is God, we told not to make mockery of eachother, so he is walking a line where he is putting himself in the shoes of "he who judge".

                            And Achmed you dismissed nothing, you again gave your own over interpretation of verses, telling us to see things and words that doesnt excist outside YOUR PERSONAL interpretation, as pr.usual.

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                              I told you once before magi the kafir bound to hell

                              I have dismissed you deaf

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                                I told you once before magi the kafir bound to hell

                                I have dismissed you deaf

                                oh you mean like her

                                And whoever flies in Allah's way, he will find in the earth many a place of refuge and abundant resources, and whoever goes forth from his house flying to Allah and His Messenger, then death overtakes him, his reward is indeed with Allah and Allah is Forgiving, Merciful.

                                (100)

                                -> See, , then death overtakes him

                                And that is exactly what happened to Firon he was caught with no escape and drowned and as we know a drowned man is a dead man

                                Now those ignorant Muslims who suggest that Allah may forgive Firon or sort of Firon has submitted to him at the moment of death and he will be entitled for forgiveness, LOL, then why Allah is telling us the Firon will lead his people to Hell

                                where you solify what i just said? I mean like right in the above qute where you are telling us not to rely on what we read but YOUR PERSONAL interpretation instead. geee

                                Peace!

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                                  Dumb Deaf and Blind

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                                    Here is the likes of magi and danish described in the Quran

                                    Surely (as for) those who disbelieve and hinder (men) from Allah's way, they indeed have strayed off into a remote

                                    (167)

                                    I will keep showing you how these two kafiroon bound to hell are very popular in the Quran

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                                      Here we go again

                                      And certainly We have created for hell many of the jinn and the men; they have hearts with which they do not understand, and they have eyes with which they do not see, and they have ears with which they do not hear; they are as cattle, nay, they are in worse errors; these are the heedless ones.

                                      (179)

                                      -> See, the likes of magi and danish ? have hearts with which they do not understand, and they have eyes with which they do not see, and they have ears with which they do not hear;?, no wonder they are called dumb, deaf and blind and no wonder the likes of these two have been created for Hell, ? And certainly We have created for hell many of the jinn and the men?, of course they are dumb, in fact they are dumber that the cattle ? ; they are as cattle, nay, they are in worse errors?, no wonder the likes of these two are ? the heedless one?

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                                        The likes of magi and danish are not just blind from Allah warnings they will also be blind on the JD, what an emabarssment is going to be for the kafiroon

                                        And whoever is blind in this, he shall (also) be blind in the hereafter; and more erring from the way.

                                        (72)

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                                          Once I thought that the likes of magi and danish have ears that they can hear the warning of their God, and have brains to comprehend it, I was actually wrong because they are indeed like cattle, well, they are even dumber than that, i.e. they have no brains nor ears

                                          Or do you think that most of them do hear or understand? They are nothing but as cattle; nay, they are straying farther off from the path.

                                          (44)

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