Skip to content
  • Categories
  • Recent
  • Users
Skins
  • Light
  • Brite
  • Cerulean
  • Cosmo
  • Flatly
  • Journal
  • Litera
  • Lumen
  • Lux
  • Materia
  • Minty
  • Morph
  • Pulse
  • Sandstone
  • Simplex
  • Sketchy
  • Spacelab
  • United
  • Yeti
  • Zephyr
  • Dark
  • Cyborg
  • Darkly
  • Quartz
  • Slate
  • Solar
  • Superhero
  • Vapor

  • Default (No Skin)
  • No Skin
Collapse
Free Minds Forum Icon
  1. Home
  2. General Issues / Questions
  3. Questions/Comments on the Quran
  4. Pharaoh's dead body!Woe!

Pharaoh's dead body!Woe!

Scheduled Pinned Locked Moved Questions/Comments on the Quran
73 Posts 6 Posters 465 Views
  • Oldest to Newest
  • Newest to Oldest
  • Most Votes
Reply
  • Reply as topic
Log in to reply
This topic has been deleted. Only users with topic management privileges can see it.
  • U Offline
    U Offline
    unknownuser
    wrote on last edited by
    #41

    Peace,

    magi, good analysis. I believe the verse refers both to his body and what you are implying. I don't restrict it here to one option.

    peace

    I agree we shouldnt, but with the current data present (dont they look at the etc....) this for now is the one that makes more sense to me.

    1 Reply Last reply
    0
    • U Offline
      U Offline
      unknownuser
      wrote on last edited by
      #42

      Peace

      Achmed dont you ever get tired of being so judgemental? You can remember the scripture that much is clear, now do as it says, your behaviour is so far from what you claim to be, its not even remotely funny. And its even less funny to have someone like you suggest that i am an enemy of God, especially as you obviously havent god a clue as to what im reffering to with my analysis.

      1 Reply Last reply
      0
      • H Offline
        H Offline
        Heart
        wrote on last edited by
        #43

        Peace

        Achmed dont you ever get tired of being so judgemental? You can remember the scripture that much is clear, now do as it says, your behaviour is so far from what you claim to be, its not even remotely funny. And its even less funny to have someone like you suggest that i am an enemy of God, especially as you obviously havent god a clue as to what im reffering to with my analysis.

        Peace Magi,

        Just curious... why have you been labeled as an enemy of God? PM me if you rather not bring it up again here. Or ignore I asked if you don't want to answer my question. I'm just being curious.

        peace

        Heart

        1 Reply Last reply
        0
        • S Offline
          S Offline
          splatter
          wrote on last edited by
          #44

          Peace,

          Ahmed, dont worry Im not offended by your opinion. I admit that I sometimes can be ignorant of the Quran since Im not finished examining it yet. So Im not offended by your opinion. And yes, I think youre full of yourself and also extremly rude. You really need to work on your way of communicating with people. And as a direct and honest person I will tell you that you bring a very negative vibe to this forum ( I dont know how others think about this, but thats just my opinion). And no, Im not only talking about your postings on this topic directed to me but about all your other postings in general. Youre really rude and need to work on your skills of how to communicate with people. Saying peace and then in an unfriendly manner continue your reply is not a polite and respectful way of communication. This is not the purpose of saying peace at the beginning. You begin with peace as this is your goal in your whole post and conduct. Youve got a very aggressive and sarcastic approach that you tend to disguise. Please be conscious of the way youre communicating and work on improving it. The way you will respond to this will show your maturity.

          To stay ontopic, I may have reacted on this subject without fully understanding what shirk is really about. So I did some research and found out that my theory about shirk wasnt really correct. My understanding of shirk was that God took offence of people making partners with Him. I was wrong. God never claimed to have any emotions and ofcourse He prohibited idolworshipping for our own good, like all the other rules He made for our own good. Believing in another system besides Gods perfect system means living a lie. People who ignore Gods system are far from the Truth. Thats why idolworshipping is a harmful deed. Its like living in an illusion.

          It says "God forgiveth not 'SHIRK', but forgiveth anything else according to His
          Will" - (448-116).

          The above verse is because I thought God could forgive the Pharaoh because he believed in the existence of Him right after he died. But I realise that God says it didnt matter now, because he had lived a lie his whole life. He found out about the truth right when he died. Living according to the Truth, and by thus believing in Allah as one and only Rabb, determines your choices in life. All of your choices in life are formed through your knowledge and beliefs. If the beliefs are wrong, you will make also the wrong decisions, and so will not fully develop and prepare your Self/nafs for the Next Life. So believing in the Truth in the last minute of your life has no purpose, as you cant make any decisions anymore to form his Self/nafs in the right way. It is discovering the spoon while you already ate the soup. To late to change his life and therefore his Self/nafs to be prepared for Paradise in the Afterlife.

          peace

          Heart

          Peace Heart,

          I agree and support your opinion. His agressive, sarcastic, "holier than you" and "I am right, so you must be wrong" attitude repulses me. I've learnt to ignore his postings. His trademark is spewing quranic verses in big blue letters, and anyone who disagree with his views will be given a dose of rude or sarcastic or "I am more intelligent" or "you are an enemy of islam" remarks. It's not about obeying god anymore; it's about obeying AB.

          1 Reply Last reply
          0
          • U Offline
            U Offline
            unknownuser
            wrote on last edited by
            #45

            Peace

            Achmed dont you ever get tired of being so judgemental? You can remember the scripture that much is clear, now do as it says, your behaviour is so far from what you claim to be, its not even remotely funny. And its even less funny to have someone like you suggest that i am an enemy of God, especially as you obviously havent god a clue as to what im reffering to with my analysis.

            You too have been dismissed

            who is next?

            1 Reply Last reply
            0
            • U Offline
              U Offline
              unknownuser
              wrote on last edited by
              #46

              you too have joined the dismissals

              have an itchy day

              1 Reply Last reply
              0
              • U Offline
                U Offline
                unknownuser
                wrote on last edited by
                #47

                Peace Ahmed,

                Never mind my posting then. Continue to be the way you are. I guess being harsh is much easier then being friendly and respectful towards people.

                Ciao.

                Heart

                Oh please, don't direct any comments to me after your dismissal

                be smart like your friend splatter

                1 Reply Last reply
                0
                • H Offline
                  H Offline
                  Heart
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #48

                  Peace Ahmed,

                  Never mind my posting then. Continue to be the way you are. I guess being harsh is much easier then being friendly and respectful towards people.

                  Ciao.

                  Heart

                  Oh please, don't direct any comments to me after your dismissal

                  be smart like your friend splatter

                  'To exist is to change, to change is to mature, to mature is to go on creating oneself endlessly.' - Henri Bergson

                  Wa salam,

                  Heart

                  P.S. I have just another comment in German'HEIL AHMED!'

                  1 Reply Last reply
                  0
                  • U Offline
                    U Offline
                    unknownuser
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #49

                    P.S. I have just another comment in German'HEIL AHMED!'

                    Fine, here is a comment in Arabic "Muzzah Heart"

                    Danke

                    1 Reply Last reply
                    0
                    • U Offline
                      U Offline
                      unknownuser
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #50

                      Peace

                      Achmed dont you ever get tired of being so judgemental? You can remember the scripture that much is clear, now do as it says, your behaviour is so far from what you claim to be, its not even remotely funny. And its even less funny to have someone like you suggest that i am an enemy of God, especially as you obviously havent god a clue as to what im reffering to with my analysis.

                      Peace Magi,

                      Just curious... why have you been labeled as an enemy of God? PM me if you rather not bring it up again here. Or ignore I asked if you don't want to answer my question. I'm just being curious.

                      peace

                      Heart

                      Peace

                      becasue our god here on the board says so. What achmed dont understand is that the only one who judges is God, we told not to make mockery of eachother, so he is walking a line where he is putting himself in the shoes of "he who judge".

                      And Achmed you dismissed nothing, you again gave your own over interpretation of verses, telling us to see things and words that doesnt excist outside YOUR PERSONAL interpretation, as pr.usual.

                      1 Reply Last reply
                      0
                      • U Offline
                        U Offline
                        unknownuser
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #51

                        I told you once before magi the kafir bound to hell

                        I have dismissed you deaf

                        1 Reply Last reply
                        0
                        • U Offline
                          U Offline
                          unknownuser
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #52

                          I told you once before magi the kafir bound to hell

                          I have dismissed you deaf

                          oh you mean like her

                          And whoever flies in Allah's way, he will find in the earth many a place of refuge and abundant resources, and whoever goes forth from his house flying to Allah and His Messenger, then death overtakes him, his reward is indeed with Allah and Allah is Forgiving, Merciful.

                          (100)

                          -> See, , then death overtakes him

                          And that is exactly what happened to Firon he was caught with no escape and drowned and as we know a drowned man is a dead man

                          Now those ignorant Muslims who suggest that Allah may forgive Firon or sort of Firon has submitted to him at the moment of death and he will be entitled for forgiveness, LOL, then why Allah is telling us the Firon will lead his people to Hell

                          where you solify what i just said? I mean like right in the above qute where you are telling us not to rely on what we read but YOUR PERSONAL interpretation instead. geee

                          Peace!

                          1 Reply Last reply
                          0
                          • U Offline
                            U Offline
                            unknownuser
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #53

                            Dumb Deaf and Blind

                            1 Reply Last reply
                            0
                            • U Offline
                              U Offline
                              unknownuser
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #54

                              Here is the likes of magi and danish described in the Quran

                              Surely (as for) those who disbelieve and hinder (men) from Allah's way, they indeed have strayed off into a remote

                              (167)

                              I will keep showing you how these two kafiroon bound to hell are very popular in the Quran

                              1 Reply Last reply
                              0
                              • U Offline
                                U Offline
                                unknownuser
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #55

                                Here we go again

                                And certainly We have created for hell many of the jinn and the men; they have hearts with which they do not understand, and they have eyes with which they do not see, and they have ears with which they do not hear; they are as cattle, nay, they are in worse errors; these are the heedless ones.

                                (179)

                                -> See, the likes of magi and danish ? have hearts with which they do not understand, and they have eyes with which they do not see, and they have ears with which they do not hear;?, no wonder they are called dumb, deaf and blind and no wonder the likes of these two have been created for Hell, ? And certainly We have created for hell many of the jinn and the men?, of course they are dumb, in fact they are dumber that the cattle ? ; they are as cattle, nay, they are in worse errors?, no wonder the likes of these two are ? the heedless one?

                                1 Reply Last reply
                                0
                                • U Offline
                                  U Offline
                                  unknownuser
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #56

                                  The likes of magi and danish are not just blind from Allah warnings they will also be blind on the JD, what an emabarssment is going to be for the kafiroon

                                  And whoever is blind in this, he shall (also) be blind in the hereafter; and more erring from the way.

                                  (72)

                                  1 Reply Last reply
                                  0
                                  • U Offline
                                    U Offline
                                    unknownuser
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #57

                                    Once I thought that the likes of magi and danish have ears that they can hear the warning of their God, and have brains to comprehend it, I was actually wrong because they are indeed like cattle, well, they are even dumber than that, i.e. they have no brains nor ears

                                    Or do you think that most of them do hear or understand? They are nothing but as cattle; nay, they are straying farther off from the path.

                                    (44)

                                    1 Reply Last reply
                                    0
                                    • H Offline
                                      H Offline
                                      Heart
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #58

                                      P.S. I have just another comment in German'HEIL AHMED!'

                                      Fine, here is a comment in Arabic "Muzzah Heart"

                                      Danke

                                      Doe mij een toppertje en een Breezer ananas
                                      En doe er ook maar een dubbele whisky bij
                                      En vanavond gaan alle remmen los
                                      En we dansen, we springen en zijn zo blij

                                      With other words; life goes on.

                                      peace

                                      Heart

                                      1 Reply Last reply
                                      0
                                      • U Offline
                                        U Offline
                                        unknownuser
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #59

                                        Here we go again, a perfect description to the likes of magi and danish
                                        Have you then considered him who takes his low desire for his god, and Allah has made him err having knowledge and has set a seal upon his ear and his heart and put a covering upon his eye. Who can then guide him after Allah? Will you not then be mindful?

                                        (23)

                                        -> Clear as light that the likes of magi and danish have been cursed and are like dumb, deaf and blind

                                        1 Reply Last reply
                                        0
                                        • H Offline
                                          H Offline
                                          Heart
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #60

                                          Peace Ahmed,

                                          "Invite to the path of your Lord with wisdom and kind enlightenment, and debate with them in the best possible manner. Your Lord knows best who has strayed from His path, and He knows best who are the guided ones." (16125)

                                          "It was mercy from GOD that you became compassionate towards them. Had you been harsh and mean-hearted, they would have abandoned you. Therefore, you shall pardon them and ask forgiveness for them, and consult them. Once you make a decision, carry out your plan, and trust in GOD. GOD loves those who trust in Him." (3159)

                                          The advice from God how to approach others, be it disbelievers, kafiroon or just simply people with a whole different view on things. The best advice comes from God. Maybe you can learn something from this.

                                          peace

                                          Heart

                                          1 Reply Last reply
                                          0
                                          Reply
                                          • Reply as topic
                                          Log in to reply
                                          • Oldest to Newest
                                          • Newest to Oldest
                                          • Most Votes


                                          • Login

                                          • Don't have an account? Register

                                          • Login or register to search.
                                          • First post
                                            Last post
                                          0
                                          • Categories
                                          • Recent
                                          • Users