Quran tells men to beat wives?
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I am not sure of the complete conversation. Or all the facts. I do believe that the man is the head of the family and should have control of his wife and children but not in an extreamist kind of way. So I went to the link and read the verses it gave. I would find it hard to follow a God that does not promate evil but yet oks it for men to beat wemon.
Sincerely, Abuja/Larry
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Peace,
Throughout the whole Quran, the word daraba is used as to leave, not to beat. This is ignored by most translators as they are influenced by ancient commentators which they followed blindly. It also doesn't fit with the whole context of the verse.
First you have to talk with the woman, then leave them alone in the bed so they know you're serious and to give a bit of space, and then beat them? This doesn't make sense. As then the reason the relationship is sustained is based on fear and violence, and not on love. The first 2 acts are logical and wise. Also God clearly says in other verses that marriage is based on love and companionship. So to translate Daraba with to beat goes against the overall use of the word and with other verses. It can only mean to seperate/leave as this is the overall meaning of Daraba in the Quran.
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I have written an article on verse 434 of the Qur'an, a verse which has commonly been misinterpreted to justify violence against women. I have created a website to publish this article www.quranverse434.com
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Just a bit of trivia for others who may read this thread
I recently was reading Quran Surah 4 in the S. V. Mir Ahmed Ali translation of the Quran and in the commentary a 12er Shia Muslim hadith from the Prophet said that Muslims do not beat their wives, but should treat them with kindness. I know that Quran Alone and Quran First Muslims don't care much for traditions, with good reason, but I believe that, if asked, the Prophet would give a reply similar to this tradition.
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Just a bit of trivia for others who may read this thread
I recently was reading Quran Surah 4 in the S. V. Mir Ahmed Ali translation of the Quran and in the commentary a 12er Shia Muslim hadith from the Prophet said that Muslims do not beat their wives, but should treat them with kindness. I know that Quran Alone and Quran First Muslims don't care much for traditions, with good reason, but I believe that, if asked, the Prophet would give a reply similar to this tradition.
You would go far to throw away your commentaries of the Quran and just read the Quran in a good translation, i would recommend the one on this site. Many people distort the meanings of the Quran, especially Hadith followers, because they try and make their Quran reflect their Hadith, which are clear fabrications.
In regard to What the prophet may or may not have said, I do believe we can easily fall into the trap of Hadith by taking such a view. and subsequently we may be miss-led by following our own opinions such as 'well in my opinion the prophet would of said that', while the Quran tells us not to follow our own opinions or others but to follow what God has revealed.
The best example i can think of is a psychopathic murderer who occasionally feeds the poor, you could say "well He does feed the poor" However you may overlook the fact that hes a Psychopathic murderer. i find its better just to stay away from Psychopathic murderers.
Thats only my example if you can understand what i mean.
The verse in question, after a little research clearly says that we should separate from not beat our wives. after all the whole theme of the context is reconciliation in marriage, which is contrary to beating your wife.
In the Quran 3917-18 God instructs us to avoid idolatry (Hadith) lest we worship it, to examine the speech/words and follow the best of them, which God describes The Quran as THE BEST HADITH (3923) 'GOD has revealed herein the best Hadith; a book that is consistent'
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4-34 is addressed to the community of believers, not to the males or to any husband at all, therefore it can hardly be telling any husband to beat anybody. Secondly the aya does not speak about wives and husbandas but about males and females. No wife is mentionned no husband is mentionned only women and men. When the qur'an means husbands it says husbands. No problem if it does not say husbands it means there is no husbands.
All the ayas in that series are directed at the community of believers at large, not to males or females in particularly and most certainly not to husbands or wives.
Salaam
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The verse in question, after a little research clearly says that we should separate from not beat our wives. after all the whole theme of the context is reconciliation in marriage, which is contrary to beating your wife.
This is a good place to start
http//www.quran434.com/wife-beating-islam.htmlTo my knowledge it is the only understanding to provide perfect internal coherence with regard to Quran.
