praying loudly
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Peace,
17110-111 is clear. Don't pray silent and not to loud. Praying silently is non-Quranic and God gave a clear command for that in 17110-111. Pray in a middle tone out loud. As for the Al-Rahman and Ar-Rahmani, the L is silent. So you say Ar-Rahmani. So the writing style is Al-Rahman, but the recited word sounds as Ar-Rahmani.
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Salaam Nerspi,
also, i found that somewhere it says
Alrrahmani alrraheemi
and somewhere else it says
Ar-Rahman Ar-RahimThe article "Al" in the Arabic language when meeting the letter "Ra" with a tanwin (idgam bilagunnah if I'm not mistaken) will make the "L" in the "Al" not sounded that distinct, and pronounced "Ar" instead.
So both of them are correct transliteration, although if you hear quran recitations, it will sound "A(l)r-Rahmaani(al)r-Rahiim(i)" (the letters in the brackets are not spoken).
=adley=
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Salam,
from the perspective arnold presents ,which i agree with,i think the issue is not sin when we pray softly,but the overall effectiveness of the salat is reduced,hence the injunction to pray aloud,but yet not too loud.Salam.My opinion on the issue...
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peace
ok some of you say it's not wrong to pray in silence and arnold here says it is and i'm confused again. up until now i always thought it's the fact that we pray to Allah alone that matters, i didn't know that saying the words aloud is so important, are we gonna anwser on the Judgement Day about saying the words in prayers out loud or in our heads? God hears us either way so i thought it wasn's something that we will be punished for.
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Salaam,
I think the "pray" in Arnold's post meant to be "salat" instead of "du'a". You can do du'a in silence without problems. But if taken literally, you have to use a middle-tone (of course you decide how loud it is) when uttering what you say in your salat.
What I consider "loud" may not what you consider "loud". So it is up to your judgment how loud you should raise your voice.
=adley=
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Peace,
Nerspi, i don't say anything. In 17110 God says to use a middle tone of voice in Salat-prayer, and this has a psychological reason. There is no such thing as 'sin', the word 'ithm' refers to 'harm'. It is harmfull to do or not do certain things. And no, on the resurrection Day God will not punish you for not praying out loud. But you will have missed the psychological benefit of praying out loud. No human should be your judge, look at the Quran, look at verse 17110.
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selam
i know it says use a middle tone, i was just wondering is that one of the most important parts of praying. like, will a prayer be nullified if i say the words in my head?
and i meant will God punish us for praying silently, for saying the words in our heads?i know it doesn't say we'll be punished but my concern is, will praying silently be counted as an act of disobedience?
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Salam,
we are adviced to use a moderate tone.But if you disobey it,whether you will get punished or not,is for God to judge,but to be safe,why not just hear and obey.Salam.Its not difficult saying aloud your prayer,i dunt see what the issue is.
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Salam,
if you are not deliberate or malicious God does not hold you responsible.He is ar rahman.Salam.