Evil Illuminati World Rulers
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You ask me what i think of him, so i will tell you. i think he is a crackpot. The bohemian show he puts on there is lifted from the bullhorn tooting Alex Jones,
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who supposedly "secretly entered" the elites hiding ground. I will tell you what, you dont go there unless you have an invite. a charater like jones is an institution in conspiracy even back then, and secret services would spot him on his scent alone. You try and sneak into a bilderberg meeting and see how that goes, i wish you the best of luck.
What icke does is trying to sell his newage mumbo jumbo relegion. He made his first appearence on national brittish television and announced he was Gods son. And then went on to predict all kinds of disasters to hit england. As people obviously didnt take this very seriously, he started to investigate popular subculture, especially the conspiracy and ufology communities. And here he met Jordan Maxwell who is a capacity in both fields, whatever you wanna put into that. Maxwells research made icke fall on his arse, so he took all the stuff he could use to go home and make a cult of the gullible where he parrots conspiracy theories that he likes that fit in his. "everything is endless love, and you are god" trippin...
The part that impressed him the most was the work sakharia sitchin had done, along with people like maxwell. Sitchin has put forth a theory based on the sumerian tablets, that a 12th planet is in excistance, and that the sumerians knew about it. But not only that, on this planet, the now famed planet X, there lived a race that came here and crated our culture, the anunaki and they will return blahbnlahblahblah
So currently he is telling everyone that the queen of england is a dragon from outer space along with all influential people in the world. Dont get me wrong, that family is nothing but vile and evil along with most of the influential people in the world. But to try and convince people that they are reptillian overlords from planet x, is not only retarded, it is damaging to the whole truth movement. Even if purely hypothetically there was some credential to this idea it doesnt matter untill we can prove conclusively that is what going on. And 6000 year old claytablets and a few figures that with a bit of imagination could look like astrnouts and a flying disc is just not going to cut it in the public awareness.
David icke is a disaster along with alex jones, that is what they are. And they are the most influential people in the whole movement.
thats what i think of david icke.
So is there any validity to the whole bohemian grove thing. Alot. However, the owl ritual is not the offering to molech.
This is molech, or a supposed depiction of it. i want you to think of the story of the golden calf that emitted a mooing sound. It was made from brass, and i know of 2 different versions. One with 7 chambers, where you had one for wheat, cattle, a couple of first borns etc, and another where it had stretched out hands with a fire burning inside it so it was red hot. Then they placed the first born in its hand, while drumming frantically to kill the horrible screams of the child. THe hollow brass statue when heated would not only have mooed it would have howled. If you want to test it for size, take a barrel, cut a hole and warm it up. Anyway...Molech
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So what is the owl at the bohemian grove ritual which does take place every year, that part is perfectly true. My bid is that it is ascalaphus. Or rather it is connected to a host of godesses these screwpots worship. But in the context of the ritual in the footage i have no doubt it is ascalaphus.
The reason Jones wants it to be molech is because his target audience is conservative christians and molech is named in the bible. And Icke is simply just going along with what he "feels" is right. And ill give him that he hits the spot often but in a wrapping of dragons its as usefull as an ashtray on a motorcycle.
peace
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Peace be upon you Magi,
LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ;D
You had me crying over here.
But you are absolutely right (as far as my understanding about this topic goes)
The reptile people kills all credibility.
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actually in esiah 44
"The ironsmith takes a cutting tool and works it over the coals. He fashions it with hammers and works it with his strong arm. He becomes hungry, and his strength fails; he drinks no water and is faint. The carpenter stretches a line; he marks it out with a pencil. He shapes it with planes and marks it with a compass. He shapes it into the figure of a man, with the beauty of a man, to dwell in a house. He cuts down cedars, or he chooses a cypress tree or an oak and lets it grow strong among the trees of the forest. He plants a cedar and the rain nourishes it. Then it becomes fuel for a man. He takes a part of it and warms himself; he kindles a fire and bakes bread. Also he makes a god and worships it; he makes it an idol and falls down before it. Half of it he burns in the fire. Over the half he eats meat; he roasts it and is satisfied. Also he warms himself and says, 'Aha, I am warm, I have seen the fire!' And the rest of it he makes into a god, his idol, and falls down to it and worships it. He prays to it and says, 'Deliver me, for you are my god!'"
A very sharp description of the masons and their actual pracsis. The masons sprang out of guilds. Simple workers guilds. As the elite has their guilds. Where they worship whatever they think has "cool" to it. Weishaupts masonry is made up, this is admitted on quote in later letters. To give this political movement a sense of mystiqie and to attract bored rich people, he said the teachings was from the decedents of Noah, no less.
Funny fact. In the Quran in surah noor we are warned about the very gods of freemasonry, go look it up. In the translation of the quran on the front page they have even chosen to use the symbols commonly associated with them rather than gods, except wadd, the snake.
This line of reasoning has allways excisted. MAN !! the stuff i just did is cool i think im going to worship it. This is why proper education is kryptonite against stupid.
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Peace be upon you,
In the translation of the quran on the front page they have even chosen to use the symbols commonly associated with them rather than gods, except wadd, the snake.
Please elaborate. Which translation? Show the picture to us if you can.
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Peace idolfree1
Well all relegious scriptures have warnings against this kind of thinking, and the Qurans is very precise. Check this out.
7121 Noah said "My Lord, they have disobeyed me and have followed whose money and children only increased him in loss."
7122 And they plotted a great plotting.We are dealing with rich plotting people, right? Whose money does only increase in loss? ours. our money is worth fuck o, the more you use the poorer you or some other poor sap becomes becasue of the mechanism in the system. and if i didnt know any better i would belive this to be targeted directly at the rothschilds as the plotters children apparently arent up to any good either.
7123 And they said "Do not abandon your gods. Do not abandon Destroyer, nor Night Group, nor Helper and Deterrer and Eagle."
Other translaters use this translation
And they have said Forsake not your gods. Forsake not Wadd, nor Suwa', nor Yaghuth and Ya'uq and Nasr.
These are sun and moon gods. Wadd is a sungod, portrayed as a snake. He is very close to osris in property. suwa is Isis without a doubt all the "gods" upheld in masonic circles. Why the difference in translation? it doesnt matter however, the message got through in translation anyway as the words used are symbols. Eagle, heavily masonic symbol, nightgroup is the astro theology aspect, with astrologers in the white house etc...Destroyer i would suspect is one of their main dieties. saturn. He is nasty. My point is, however you translate this, the same meaning comes out of it, just from another angle. The non translated words, leads you to the name of the dieties, the translation of each name leads you to the symbols associated with them, or the kind of thinking. ?!
As if this kind of thinking is programmed into us, and when you make the choice, you start to use the same symbols as the last idiots who did it. hehe
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This video being from the same guy who gave this interview
http//www.youtube.com/watch?v=AEaZMOprAAI
He goes on and on about people disbelieving without considering the evidence having conditioned minds, the problem is there is no evidence to believe or disbelieve in the 'Serpent People', he uses two instances of hearsay to support his evidence.
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He talks about Physicists - and Physics is my profession by the way - he talks all about this unseen universe but he needs to make up his mind!
I am a Muslim and I believe in the existence of the hidden Jinn, but he needs sort things out, are these 'Reptoids' hidden or are they seen?
Apparently they walk among us in human form, so obviously they're a lot more like us than he would have us believe, and then he started going into evolution and how reptiles have 'evolved' into this hidden unseen dimension, and not only have they 'evolved' into this but they have also (with a near 100% certainty by the way) evolved a conventional (human form) sentient intelligence.
And, according to this theory they must also be born pure evil if their one sole intention is to hide among us and pick fights with Christian Pastors in hotel lifts etc. >D
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Peace be upon you Magi,
You have started it now! ;D
Would you please continue sharing your wisdom on the topic of Mosonic symbolisms. I am very intersted in it and would like more understanding. Especially regarding this;
Destroyer i would suspect is one of their main dieties. saturn. He is nasty.
I understand Staurn from the astrological perspective as well as the "energy" Sekert of Khamit. Please elaborate when you have time on this and any other symbolism.
Thanks.
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Peace idolfree1
Well i think you allready know to be honest. alltho from another angle. The heology that youre interrested in
is the same as they are interrested in, but the carnalised version. This is why you find nazis take an old
symbol of the sun, peace and prosperity and spin it (physically) to fit their version, or thinking in regard to the symbol.
What is peace to us, is not peace to them, there is a difference in thinking, they belive conflict is what
moves us forward, and as such seek constant conflict to be present, as the vehicle for "peace".
unlike us, who think peace leads to peace and conlift to more conflict.Example in differnces in thinking. Arabahm build the foundation of a house. The carnalists now look for a physical
house, without ever giving 1 minute of thought to the "house of israel". The house of israel what is that? a building
somehwre in palestine? or is it a refference to their system? OFCOURSE IT IS! But the symblism gets carnalised.
i dont know if that is an expression at all, my meaning is that they pull spiritual teachings down into earth.
In another version of this skewed thinking they carnalised their god, and made him "in the flesh".So when you know about saturns astro theological implications, you are aware of the "negative" side of the diety
aswell. That is what they are into. To them saturn is the destroyer, he is the lawmaker, the punisher, if you
dont do as youre told youll get whopped real bad. His color is as we know black. He is the "lord of the rings" (hmmmmm?)
and more than anything else. The star of "david" is the star of saturn (and was properbly the sign of another
dark diety before that. i mean these symbols was old when the kemets started to use them).So in American courts you have judges in black robes, the sherif is wearing his "shield" (the star of david badge)
the lawmakers sit on the seal, as all chairs in their parliament there is the star of saturn.
On the capitol you have perspehone surrounded by the owl ascalaphus. does this not imply that the capitol is run from
the underworld? like in mafia? secrets? And is a warner of doom? Hades and saturn, what a nice couple.When Americas say it is Gods own country, you better ask yourself.
what god?
The basic of it is, take what you know, and spin it to carnalise it. Then you are close to masonic belief system.
Not all masons are the same kind of masons, and not all masons are bad people, i would say most of them arent.
but those in power, are into stuff, obviously, that do not stand public scrutiny.To just talk about masonic symbolism is a broad subject, so its easyer of there is something in particular that you want to know, that i perhaps have read.
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Peace be upon you Magi,
Excellent! I will ask you more direct questions in time. I see you certainly know your stuff. I guess I do have one more question, please expound on persephone for me.
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Peace be upon you Magi,
Excellent! I will ask you more direct questions in time. I see you certainly know your stuff. I guess I do have one more question, please expound on persephone for me.
Peace idolfree1
Hmm persephone is a member of the greek pantheon, but as you know all cultures would have a similar diety to her. her story is that she ate from the forbidden seeds in hades underworld, and a teasing spirit ascalaphus saw this and telltaled. As part of an agreement she now had to marry Hades and rule the underworld with him. Demeter, perspehones mother was enraged and turned Ascalaphus into an owl. Thus the greeks was s*** scared of owls (except the brotherhoods obviously) because they forwarned doom. Many godesses are symbolised by the owl, with similar traits to persephone. So to sum up her in relation to our world today. lets take a photoalbum tour, i love those
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"lady freedom" ignoramuses are told this is, and buy it. Oh yeah its lady freedom if you understand who lady freedom is, and to whom it is so. its not to you its lady freedom.Here she is on her dome
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In 1854, Pope Pius IX issued an encyclical defining Immaculate Conception, an unbiblical scenario which holds that the Virgin Mary, like her son (and like Persephone) was preserved free from all stain of original sin in the first instant of her conception. Within days, federal legislators in Washington became obsessed with expanding the Capitol dome. According to one official publication, Never before or since has an addition to the Capitol been so eagerly embraced by Congress. Legislation was hastily passed which incorporated the new papal doctrine into the new domes cupola. A week later, the immaculately-conceived goddess Persephone was ordained to surmount the legislative center of the United States. Persephone was sculpted in Rome and installed atop the Capitol on the 47th anniversary of the death of Americas first Roman Catholic bishop, John Carroll. The event was heralded by 47 gunshots, thirty-five from a field battery on Capitol Hill, twelve from the surrounding forts.The Capitol, incidentally, is erected on property owned by Bishop Carrolls family. In the 1663 Maryland records, the exact site was recorded under the title Rome, its owner a man named Pope.
Ask youself, what is she to them? So where is the telltale owl?
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ahhh there it is...If you have seen the streetplan youd notice that it sits on top of a pyramid. A masonic symbol. Think im stretching it? take a look at the american journalist association logo.
http//www.leavingbabylon.com/images/Occult11.jpghey...isnt that the telltale owl, the dome with persephone, the rising sun of the masons behind it, the eternalfire (arab lamp arefference to the oriental lodges, and teachings that are extremely powerful)...and...the bible.
I find it funny that a telltale owl is the logo of journalists, but i guess the joke is on my as that is why they chose it to begin with. The warner of doom. The capitol is warning the world, and the journalists are scaring the flock into submission, by telltales.
Ok, lets take this really far out.
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The world elite making a moch sacrifice of care to an owl...what owl?
their logo
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I would suggest that this owl is no other than the Ascalaphus Bubo owl. Or the PHARAO EAGLE owl (nonetheless...pharao and eagle owl.)
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http//www.eulenwelt.de/images/pharaonen_uhu.jpgSo were back to the power. The capitol is under this elite diety. and "framed" by her tell tale owl. interresting stuff all these games they make. The funny thing is, i think they belive its real, and however we twist and turn it. its very real for the rest of us, or rather the outcome. "they call themself peacekeepers, but they are the transgressors" (from memory). remember, they belive conflict leads to peace and development. When they talk about peace, they are not lying, we just dont agree what it is, or how its obtained.
This is why spin is important to them, altso the spinning of symbols, spindoktors with the politicians. Because spin is not lying directly, and if you are hung up on a statement, you can just spin it further to defend the spun position. This is altso very much how their theology has developed from the looks of it.
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what i mean is, persephone is not an evil entity par se. she was tricked. and that is what they are, tricksters. She is "framed" by their diety, the evil spirit. This altso leads into how they have removed the feminine side of all relegion with great succes, and why they are gay for the most part, and why they have godesses, because females are unpure, but godesses obviously aint, so lets just forget about weman and fuck eachother in the cough. stuff like that.
Oh and another oddity...on the american dollar
http//www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/hardtruth/owl_on_the_dollar.gif
the freedom non negotiable instrument of dept settlement featuring something that looks remarkbly like an owl. But maybe its just misprint?
peace
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Peace,
I read Icke's "Robot's Guide to Freedom" a few years ago and stopped as soon as the whole reptile thing became apparent. Up until then, I thought he had some really good thoughts. I haven't read anything new but I've heard he's been backing away from the reptile talk.
Just thought I'd share. Anyway, good stuff as always Noah.
Peace,
Tay