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    as-salamu'alaikum,

    Hope you are all doing fine and in good health - insha-Allah.

    I need your help people. I need Muslims to fill-in a questionnaire about Translations of the Qur'an (non-Muslims fill in an alternative questionnaire). It is required as the core part of an MA thesis research.

    Participants' mother-tongue should not be Arabic (they should not be fluent in Arabic).

    Your time and effort are greatly appreciated and may Allah Almighty reward you for your help.

    Please post in this thread your answers to the following questions, and remember that you would be doing this for the sake of Islam.

    May Allah bless you all.

    Please state how long it takes you to complete this questionnaire Approx. ---- mins.

    Your Age

    Your Nationality

    Your Education

    Languages you speak other than English

    Exposure to Arabic (e.g mother-tongue of parents / learning at school)

    If Quran isnt its translation

    1. What do you expect from a translation of the Holy Quran?

    2. What is it that you prefer most in any given translation?

    3. Do you know how to judge a translation of the Holy Quran to be good or not?

    4. What would you like to see in translations of the Quran, as it does not already exist and is lacking in current translations?

    5. What is the Quran translation you use? Why?

    6. Do you prefer hard-copy (printed) versions of Quran, or computers version?

    7. What would make you seek to buy or find a specific translation of the Quran? For example, you hear of a new translation, a friend told you about his favourite translation etc.

    8 ) What do you dislike most in any given translation of the Quran?

    1. Have you ever decided not to use a particular translation of the Quran? If so, why?

    2. Do you think that translations and translated explanations are enough to understand the meanings of Quran or does one have to learn Arabic?

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      If anyone is interested, please do take part in the survey.

      All non-Arabic speakers are welcome to participate.

      JazakAllahkhair.

      wsalam

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        As salamu alaykum wr wb.
        Respectfully.

        No offence, brother, but do not seek help from humans, always seek help from THE GOD.
        Remember Quran - 14

        May THE GOD has mercy on all of us.
        As salamu alaykum wr wb.

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          salam,

          what do you mean brother?

          Of-course we seek help from God, but this study requires participation from human-beings - so that we can recieve their feedback.

          a questionnaire has to be filled in by humans - but of-course God is the one who would help us find any success.

          So I don't quite see what you are saying?

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            salam,

            here is the questionnaire, for those of you who wish to complete it directly on here, instead of downloading it first

            Please state how long it takes you to complete this questionnaire Approx. ---- mins.

            1. Your Age

            Your Nationality

            Your Education

            Languages you speak other than English

            Exposure to Arabic (e.g mother-tongue of parents / learning at school)

            If Qur?an isn?t its translation ?

            1. What do you expect from a translation of the Holy Qur?an?

            2. What is it that you prefer most in any given translation?

            3. Do you know how to judge a translation of the Holy Qur?an to be good or not?

            4. What would you like to see in translations of the Qur?an, as it does not already exist and is lacking in current translations?

            5. What is the Qur?an translation you use? Why?

            6. Do you prefer hard-copy (printed) versions of Qur?an, or computers? version?

            7. What would make you seek to buy or find a specific translation of the Qur?an? For example, you hear of a new translation, a friend told you about his favourite translation ?etc.

            8 ) What do you dislike most in any given translation of the Qur?an?

            1. Have you ever decided not to use a particular translation of the Qur?an? If so, why?

            2. Do you think that translations and translated explanations are enough to understand the meanings of Qur?an or does one have to learn Arabic?

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              if you think that the first part of the questionnaire is too personal to answer on here, then you may send a private-message to me with that part, instead of posting here.

              wsalam

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                Please state how long it takes you to complete this questionnaire Approx. ---- mins.

                1. Your Age 24

                Your Nationality Dutch

                Your Education Biochemistry and Theology

                Languages you speak other than English Dutch, french, german, latin, arabic

                Exposure to Arabic (e.g mother-tongue of parents / learning at school) through school

                1. What do you expect from a translation of the Holy Qur?an?

                That it takes the rational approach, is not influenced by tasfeer, fiqh and hadith and foccuses on the Quran as a book for humanity and not a religious book.

                1. What is it that you prefer most in any given translation?

                That it is not approached as a religious book, but as a constitution for humanity.

                1. Do you know how to judge a translation of the Holy Qur?an to be good or not?

                If it uses cross-reference, if it is not influenced by tafseer, if it translates things in the rational way. As for example

                1. So We inspired to Moses ?idrib bi-asa-ka-l-bahra.? So it split into two, each side like a great mountain/walls.

                Normally is ?idrib bi-asa-ka-l-bahra" translated with "hit the sea with your stick", but asa refers to unity, asa can mean stick as the fingers unite on the handle, asa also refers to people, nation, conviction and many more. Darb means to hit, beat, move, march on, to move from one place to the other, to bring forth a parable, and it has more meanings. So the most logical meaning would be

                1. So We inspired to Moses ?And move to the sea with your people.? So it split into two, each side like a great mountain.
                1. What would you like to see in translations of the Qur?an, as it does not already exist and is lacking in current translations?

                Multiple translations of one word, as for example

                2530 And the Messenger will say, ?O my Lord! These are my people, the ones who had made this Qur'an mahjoor."

                Mahjoor means in arabic; to desert, to avoid, to shun, separate oneself from, taken as nonsense, taken as of no account, immobilized it like villagers who bind a cow by tying her front foot to her horn.

                So you would end up with

                2530 And the Messenger will say, ?O my Lord! These are my people, the ones who had made this Qur'an of no account, have deserted it, treated it as something to be avoided, have separated themselves from it, have shunned it, have taken it as nonsense and immobilized and fixed its meaning as a cow bound foot to horn."

                Because all meanings fit, you can use them all. And that the words and verses are not approached in a religious way. For example, Salat's main meaning is 'following the Divine commands closely to gain the best positions as 2 horses in a race where the second horse is gaining on the first'.

                1. What is the Qur?an translation you use? Why?

                I use QXP, Ahmed Ali, Muhammed Ali, Muhammed Asad, Mohammed&Samira Ahmed and Progressive Muslims translation. Because QXP and Muhammed Ali have the same approach as me where everything is approached in a rational way and avoids biblical influence, Ahmed Ali and Muhammed Asad have a real sharp insight on the metaphorical message. The others as they are close to literal translations although they also make faults in choice of words. And all of them try to avoid tafseers, fiqh and hadith explanations and try to follow the Quran's arabic, and not outside sources as the Quran is the only source of law and revelation 6114.

                1. Do you prefer hard-copy (printed) versions of Qur?an, or computers? version?

                Both.

                1. What would make you seek to buy or find a specific translation of the Qur?an? For example, you hear of a new translation, a friend told you about his favourite translation ?etc.

                The person who translated it and what his approach was.

                8 ) What do you dislike most in any given translation of the Qur?an?

                They percieve Islam as a religion while it is a Deen, the perfect system for humanity, and they approach the Quran from a jewish/persian religious approach which distorts the whole message.

                1. Have you ever decided not to use a particular translation of the Qur?an? If so, why?

                Because the above list i gave is enough resource for me,but i almost never use Ahmed Khan's or Yusuf's Ali.

                1. Do you think that translations and translated explanations are enough to understand the meanings of Qur?an or does one have to learn Arabic?

                They are a help, but i believe you need to learn arabic. As you are dependent on a persons point of view and choice of arabic. You must become independent as 1736 says to verify everything yourself. It isn't that hard to learn arabic, we are talking about our Soul here...

                Peace

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                  Your Age 6240 days

                  Your Nationalitypakistani

                  Your Educationhigh school

                  Languages you speak other than Englishurdu, little bit of spanish

                  Exposure to Arabic (e.g mother-tongue of parents / learning at school) can read, was taught at school but not very well. at all.

                  If Qur?an isn?t its translation ?

                  1. What do you expect from a translation of the Holy Qur?an?
                    An unbiased translation. Without any "miracles."

                  2. What is it that you prefer most in any given translation?
                    I don't get the question.

                  3. Do you know how to judge a translation of the Holy Qur?an to be good or not?
                    Not really. But I follow what I think makes the most sense logically and according to the overall message of the quran.

                  4. What would you like to see in translations of the Qur?an, as it does not already exist and is lacking in current translations?
                    I would like a simple translation, without any additions to it. The translator should leave his/her biases at home (assuming that's not where he/she works on the translation)

                  5. What is the Qur?an translation you use? Why?
                    I use the free-minds or QXP since they make the most sense to me. But I don't like how QXP get's all scientific on you sometimes.

                  6. Do you prefer hard-copy (printed) versions of Qur?an, or computers? version?
                    either. But hard copy is more likely to cost money (and cost more if it does).

                  7. What would make you seek to buy or find a specific translation of the Qur?an? For example, you hear of a new translation, a friend told you about his favourite translation ?etc.
                    If I read the translation itself.

                  8 ) What do you dislike most in any given translation of the Qur?an?
                  Using tradition to translate words, and assuming that people assume that the quran is a divine book.

                  1. Have you ever decided not to use a particular translation of the Qur?an? If so, why?
                    Rashad Khalifa. I've heard his translations are corrupt.
                    Any other traditional translation.

                  2. Do you think that translations and translated explanations are enough to understand the meanings of Qur?an or does one have to learn Arabic?
                    One does not have to learn arabic, but translations alone aren't enough. We need to use our heads as well. Not literally.

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                    salam,

                    May Allah reward you greatly for your time and effort.

                    can you please let us know roughly how long it took you to complete this questionnaire?

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                      5 mins.

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                        1. Your Age 21

                        Your Nationality Lebanese/Pakistani

                        Your Education Currently obtaining a B.S

                        Languages you speak other than English A lil Arabic and a lil Urdu + some Spanish and alot of French =P

                        Exposure to Arabic (e.g mother-tongue of parents / learning at school)
                        The language of my mother, and currently taking classes to master Arabic.

                        If Qur?an isn?t its translation ?

                        1. What do you expect from a translation of the Holy Qur?an?
                          To be done properly by Linguists who specialize in the Arabic of the Qur'an.

                        2. What is it that you prefer most in any given translation?
                          An honest translation that is as close as possible to the Arabic.

                        3. Do you know how to judge a translation of the Holy Qur?an to be good or not?
                          I wish I could say yes. I'm working on that though.

                        4. What would you like to see in translations of the Qur?an, as it does not already exist and is lacking in current translations?
                          I like the work being done by the people on free-minds and other Qur'an based groups. Continueing to better translate the Qur'an even years after an official translation is always great.

                        5. What is the Qur?an translation you use? Why?
                          Right now I rely on the first copy of the Message. I like it because it only claims to be a translation of the Qur'an.

                        6. Do you prefer hard-copy (printed) versions of Qur?an, or computers? version?
                          Both

                        7. What would make you seek to buy or find a specific translation of the Qur?an? For example, you hear of a new translation, a friend told you about his favourite translation ?etc.
                          I honestly rely on the judgement of certain individuals on this forum at the moment.

                        8 ) What do you dislike most in any given translation of the Qur?an?
                        Translation of words without referencing them to the Qur'an itself. Such as the word DaRaBa.

                        1. Have you ever decided not to use a particular translation of the Qur?an? If so, why?
                          I prefer not to use any Qur'an with a heavy Wahabi/Salafi influence.

                        2. Do you think that translations and translated explanations are enough to understand the meanings of Qur?an or does one have to learn Arabic?
                          I personally believe that learning the Arabic of the Qur'an is the best way to fully understand it. Learning something in its original language is always the best course for anything.

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                          Please state how long it takes you to complete this questionnaire Approx. 7 mins.

                          1. Your Age 41

                          Your Nationality German

                          Your Education University degree in law

                          Languages you speak other than English French, German, lil arabic (spanish and italian understood)

                          Exposure to Arabic (e.g mother-tongue of parents / learning at school)
                          Lived in arab countries (egypt /morocco for about 15 years), only about six month of learning the classic, rest rather spoken arabic

                          If Qur?an isn?t its translation ?

                          1. What do you expect from a translation of the Holy Qur?an?
                            Not too much as i know that the understanding of the arabic text is often flowed

                          2. What is it that you prefer most in any given translation?
                            Usually the beauty of it (chouraqui french translation)

                          3. Do you know how to judge a translation of the Holy Qur?an to be good or not?
                            I judge by comparing to other translations if sens of a vers is not clear to me

                          4. What would you like to see in translations of the Qur?an, as it does not already exist and is lacking in current translations?
                            no sunna or hadith influence in decoding the arab original, thourough reasearch as to who is adressed

                          5. What is the Qur?an translation you use? Why?
                            Jaques Berques, andr? chouraqui and an official saudi one in French, Max Henning in German, Khalifa and FM in English

                          6. Do you prefer hard-copy (printed) versions of Qur?an, or computers? version?
                            hard copy for pleasure, computer easier for research

                          7. What would make you seek to buy or find a specific translation of the Qur?an? For example, you hear of a new translation, a friend told you about his favourite translation ?etc.
                            I bought chouraqui when i heard it was forbiddden in morocco

                          8 ) What do you dislike most in any given translation of the Qur?an?
                          the biaissed explanations given in footnotes

                          1. Have you ever decided not to use a particular translation of the Qur?an? If so, why?
                            no

                          2. Do you think that translations and translated explanations are enough to understand the meanings of Qur?an or does one have to learn Arabic?
                            a basis of arabic in order to be able to research roots and meanings of these roots help find possible meanings that one will never know through translations - or even just reading the arabic version with a closed mind
                            but an non arab speaker could, if god wills, come to a more accurate understanding than a native or learned arab speaker - it all depends
                            it all depends on so many things

                          peace all,lk

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                            salam,

                            may Allah reward you all with the best in Jannah for your participation and help.

                            JazakAllahkhair.

                            Please keep the responses coming.

                            wsalam

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                              Your Education Currently obtaining a B.S

                              rotfl

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                                Salaam Waleed,

                                Man, you're naughtly

                                =adley=

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                                  Salaam,

                                  Your Age 24
                                  Your Nationality Indonesian
                                  Your Education Bachelor of Information Systems
                                  Languages you speak other than English Indonesian
                                  Exposure to Arabic (e.g mother-tongue of parents / learning at school)
                                  I haven't got the skills, but currently doing a self-study, because I so want to read the qur'an without translations.

                                  If Qur?an isn?t its translation ?

                                  1. What do you expect from a translation of the Holy Qur?an?
                                    As literal as possible by adhering to the concept of 3918.

                                  2. What is it that you prefer most in any given translation?
                                    No parantheses, no footnotes, no hadiths or the so-called sunna.
                                    A little bit introduction explaining how the translation was done, using what method, etc. so I can more or less expect what kind of translation I'll be reading.

                                  3. Do you know how to judge a translation of the Holy Qur?an to be good or not?
                                    Kind of. I'll be using a lot of cross-reference for this one though.

                                  4. What would you like to see in translations of the Qur?an, as it does not already exist and is lacking in current translations?
                                    Perhaps multiple meaning translations. I know this kind of contradictory to what I wrote above. But if there is a translation such as this, it'll be good for anyone who is not a quranic virgin.

                                  5. What is the Qur?an translation you use? Why?
                                    Free-Minds, QXP, Indonesian-rendered version of "Bacaan" (by Othman Ali), official Indonesian translation.

                                  6. Do you prefer hard-copy (printed) versions of Qur?an, or computers? version?
                                    Soft copy. I spend at least half of my days in front of computers anyway. Let's make it more efficient ;D

                                  7. What would make you seek to buy or find a specific translation of the Qur?an?
                                    For example, Usually a "banned" one D
                                    Or a translation that is a "fresher" effort in making the quran translation.
                                    Oh, I'll buy literal Indonesian translation anytime; don't need the Department of Religion's approval for that.

                                  8 ) What do you dislike most in any given translation of the Qur?an?
                                  Hadith-filtered meaning of word. Just take a look at 1187 where "salaatuka" can transform into anything but "salat" (except in some translations of course) D

                                  1. Have you ever decided not to use a particular translation of the Qur?an? If so, why?
                                    Not really. Perhaps if Faith-Freedom decided to make one, then I may decide not to use it.

                                  2. Do you think that translations and translated explanations are enough to understand the meanings of Qur?an or does one have to learn Arabic?
                                    To understand its essence, no Arabic is necessary. How hard is it to understand 6151-153 anyway?
                                    However, to get the "real juice" then Classical Arabic is very important. And my goal in 5 years is to be able to read the quran without translations. First hand experience is something that you can't just replace.

                                  =adley=

                                  Edit Time to accomplish was about 5 minutes

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                                    salam,

                                    may Allah reward you br. adley for your time and effort.

                                    wsalam

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                                      Your Age 24
                                      Your Nationality Dutch/Moroccan
                                      Your Education social worker (unfinished education) and currently obtaining Bussiness Administration
                                      Languages you speak other than English Dutch, Darija (Moroccan-Arabic) and Berber
                                      Exposure to Arabic (e.g mother-tongue of parents / learning at school)
                                      From my parents, learned some of it also as a kid at the mosque and now currently busy with a selfstudy.

                                      If Qur?an isn?t its translation ?

                                      1. What do you expect from a translation of the Holy Qur?an?

                                      A clear and objective translation.

                                      1. What is it that you prefer most in any given translation?

                                      Footnotes with objective (historical) facts.

                                      1. Do you know how to judge a translation of the Holy Qur?an to be good or not?

                                      Yes, I try to use Arabic dictionaries and other translations to compare it with.

                                      1. What would you like to see in translations of the Qur?an, as it does not already exist and is lacking in current translations?

                                      I have to second the answer of Arnold on this one. There indeed have to be multiple translations of words, so that people can see for theirselves what the translations of some words are and therefore can get a clear picture of the whole context of a verse.

                                      1. What is the Qur?an translation you use? Why?

                                      Fred Leemhuis (a Dutch professor in Arabic), Ahmed Ali, Muhammad Ali, Shabbir, Khalifa, QXP and FM. (Because of different reasons.)

                                      1. Do you prefer hard-copy (printed) versions of Qur?an, or computers? version?

                                      Hard-copies and computers' version. Although I'd rather prefer hard-copies because they're easily readable for me.

                                      1. What would make you seek to buy or find a specific translation of the Qur?an?

                                      Most of the time I try to read logical and objective translations of translators (especially if they're God aloners).

                                      8 ) What do you dislike most in any given translation of the Qur?an?

                                      The (illogical) influences of hadith and the Bible. It kills the objective view! That's a real turn-off.

                                      1. Have you ever decided not to use a particular translation of the Qur?an? If so, why?

                                      Yes, because of the influences of the hadith and the "islamic" religion of today.

                                      1. Do you think that translations and translated explanations are enough to understand the meanings of Qur?an or does one have to learn Arabic?

                                      It would be easier to learn Arabic for yourself to understand the Quran and verify the translations a translator gives to some (classical) Arabic words. It will provide you with the knowledge of the Arabic language and therefore you can't easily get influenced by the translators of the Quran. But it isn't really necessary if someone finds it hard to learn Arabic, aslong as they use dictionaries to verify words for theirselves.

                                      peace

                                      Latifah

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                                        Salaam Ameen,

                                        Thanks

                                        =adley=

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                                          salam,

                                          may Allah reward you also sr. Latifah.

                                          thanks v. much all - it is much appreciated.

                                          wsalam

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