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Is the Salat physical?

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    noble
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    btw enquirer, you should call me master Noble, not mister Noble )

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      I though only allah was master in islam mister!

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        noble
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        muahaha lol yay

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          noble
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          I cannot hold serious conversations for too long... a bit childish really (for my age) ignore

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            Peace be upon you Noble,

            I use meditation and have used it for over thirty years.

            Excellent. However many people when they speak of meditation only speak of going into a deep trance state for relaxation, lower blood pressure, etc. Most do not enter that state , then use the verbal thinking and imagination to run through scenarios that will change the automatic responses.

            The way the ritual Salat is conducted adds a physical dimension to it, not unlike tai chi.

            I wont disagree to that, but the God wants us to be STILL, because that will get us to the deepest trance. Thats why in emergencey when can do it while moving(walking , riding) , but ordinarilly we must be STILL. We cannot relax totally if we are still in motion.

            May I also remind you that dhikr is mediation, where you use as mentra some scriptural wording which you repeat over and over, it is indeed very meditative in nature.

            I agree.

            Allah has left it for us to decide what is most appropriate in our circumstances (as far as non ritual prayer is concerned).
            In any event I have never seen someone approaching meditation who is not ready for a change...
            You have to be ready for a change to be able to change. Like the alcoholic, if he does not acknowledge he has a problem, he will never be able to do something about it.
            As for the ritual prayer, so many people have been brought up with it, so look at it as an imposition, so no wonder they will resist it.
            They do not look at it as a device to get closer to their Creator, furthermore they do not know much about their Creator as they do not read the Quran...
            Have a nice life dude

            I didnt understand what you were saying here at the end. It is not necessary to keep ending posts with "have a nice life" if we would not be talking anymore. Please refrain from getting angry, this is only a discussion between us to see if we can come to a better understanding. As moderator I had to give you a warning about he words you were using. Do not let that build a barrier between us where we cant continue to discuss.

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              noble
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              Peace idolfree1
              do not worry, i have a weird sense of humor, my students love it though...
              btw i am on extended sick leave, this is why i have much time on my hands to bother you here
              have a wonderful life in a peaceful universe ;D

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