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what happened to the caliphate system?

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    idl
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    Hi all,

    Its interesting to note that there was a system - the caliphate system prior to 1924. This system was around ever since muhammad establised medina (as current history tells). advancement in every aspect of life can be seen thruout the many years when this system was around. (www.muslimheritage.com) interesting huh...

    what do you guys think is the root cause. my guess would be that we're suppressed of the actual knowledge of the quran...

    your thoughts?

    peace
    idl

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      Caliphate from the Arabic word Khalfah which means "successor" or "replacement".
      The terms Calpihate Of Islam thus can be translated as "Replacement of Islam" D

      The root cause of the downfall is simple.. because they are abandoning their "Salaat"..(Commandment)
      They promised to be a servant of God Alone but in reality the serves Imam (Rahib) and Kings (Sultan) and they create some sort of "Rahbaniyah System" (Majlis Ulema) similar to the Catholic Church and following false doctrine and kills many "Murtadin" similar to the Sanhedrin.

      And they were also commanded to abolish slavery, which they also do not perform.
      And they were also commanded to uphold justice to all of the people, which they also do not perform.
      And they were also commanded to fight for the oppressed, which they also do not perform, instead they fight war for their own lust of power. (wrapped under religious dogma and propaganda)
      And they were also commanded to promote love and caring for the poor, widow and orphans yet they were promoting hate and prejudice. (also wrapped under religious dogma and propaganda).

      So God choose out a new Khalifah (replacement) for them, which was a new nation who are willing to fight a war on slavery issue. A (new) nation who (back then was) promising and envisioning "Justice For All" people.

      There are signs from your Rabb in the earth and heaven for those who understand and for those who can read them.

      Salam / Peace

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        So God choose out a new Khalifah (replacement) for them, which was a new nation who are willing to fight a war on slavery issue. A (new) nation who (back then was) promising and envisioning "Justice For All" people.

        what nation might that be.

        peace

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          Jafar
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          what nation might that be. If youre going to say America im going to smack you in the mouth.

          peace

          Yes it is... although you or many others might not like it...
          On early 18th cent the country is in a state of "Jahilliyah", (Wild wild west).
          Then the civil war became a turning point for them...
          No more slavery, even Saudi Arabia has to closed down their slave market on 1962.
          http//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_rights_in_Saudi_Arabia

          God elevates whomever He wishes.. and punished whomever He wishes.
          God will make his revelation complete although the "rejector" might not like it..

          Salam / Peace

          Btw read my footer here...

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            Peace

            I did not know slave markets were open that late.

            Joe

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              Yes it is... although you or many others might not like it...
              On early 18th cent the country is in a state of "Jahilliyah", (Wild wild west).
              Then the civil war became a turning point for them...

              Slavery had little to nothing to do with it. In Abraham said if he could obtain the same goals without abolishing the slavery, he would.

              The addition of slavery to the prevailing economic issues was fuel on the pyre of the Union. This was what Robert Toombs (right) outlined in his report to the Georgia convention considering secession in 1860. They fought over a tarif first and foremost. So did they really succed in abolishing slavery? In a country where many have to work 2 jobs just to make ends meet, and few people own the home they live in and the car they drive. I would say no. Sure, they got rid of the bullship, but thats about it.

              No more slavery, even Saudi Arabia has to closed down their slave market on 1962.
              http//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_rights_in_Saudi_Arabia

              No they just removed the bullwhip because a new system was in place that would effectively render humankind into 2 fractions. Masters and slaves. If you are unsure which you are, no matter how much money you make, you are the later. The slaves are more in numbers by far, so its better to please them to make them do as you say. Just give them bread and cirkus...

              God elevates whomever He wishes.. and punished whomever He wishes.
              God will make his revelation complete although the "rejector" might not like it

              I do not disagree with this. I disagree with it in the context. There is nothing elevated about any nation on the face of the earth. All are filthy, all are run by filthy people, and all was thought up in the minds of filthy people. If we really want Gods support, its time to think this whole thing all over again. Who drew those lines in the sand that we desperately call our nations? Criminals, liars, thiefing no good leeches. All systems in place in this world is little but exploitation of the poor. The difference between then and now, is that the masters have figured out how to make us police ourselfes.

              peace

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