The road ahead

unknownuser

Peace you all

I have come to the conclution, that noone really wants any change. Not where i live, not amongst those i debate online. In reality, i seem to be a lone nut. I see the solution to our problems as clear as water, but are powerless by myself. Im going to take the consequence of this, and waste no further time on debate. Im hitting the road, so i can get to see the world around me before i will no longer have such a choice, and when im full of impressions, i wil stop eating and drinking water and make it a final goodbye. It has been a pleasure, and i have learned much by comming here. I wish you all the best in the system to come.

Kind Regards
Noah

Tay

Peace Noah,

You will be missed brother.
Take care of yourself.

Best regards,
Tay

FJ

Peace to all

Magi, I am really sorry to hear you have decided to leave and I hope that you change your mind. You said that you see the solutions to our problems as clear as water. Could you please tell me some of them or refer me to some place where I can read about these solutions?

I wish you all the best

FJ

alpha97

Peace Magi

I have come to the conclusion, that no one really wants any change. Not where i live, not amongst those i debate online.

in reality many are seeking to find the way. but each one is standing on a different point on the path.

In reality, i seem to be a lone nut

That is an illusion my friend, we are all one. But we keep identifying ourselves with (I, Me & Mine)

I see the solution to our problems as clear as water

Seeing is the first step. It disturbs one. That awareness needs to attain wisdom to be able to manifest

but are powerless by myself

Every change happens only when the needed conditions come together which are necessary to let it happen. It is not a matter of power.

Im going to take the consequence of this, and waste no further time on debate

I am going to miss your honest and straight answers.

Im hitting the road, so i can get to see the world around me before i will no longer have such a choice,

They say the GREAT TEACHER shows himself in life, where the wisdom is handed over.

We will wait for a piece of the flame when you come back my friend

peace,

Elke

Treq salaama magi sun

... and i'd rather have u back than think that u really let yourself starve... so if u change ur mind tell us about it

lk

Layth

Peace,

I have come to the conclution, that noone really wants any change. Not where i live, not amongst those i debate online. In reality, i seem to be a lone nut. I see the solution to our problems as clear as water, but are powerless by myself. Im going to take the consequence of this, and waste no further time on debate. Im hitting the road, so i can get to see the world around me before i will no longer have such a choice, and when im full of impressions, i wil stop eating and drinking water and make it a final goodbye. It has been a pleasure, and i have learned much by comming here. I wish you all the best in the system to come.

Why the glum post?

I know someone who wants change. His name is God and He is the initiator of the heavens and earth.

Why do you let it bother you what others do or don`t do? We are each accountable for our own actions and we are all out to serve God and God only!

One man makes a difference...Do what you can do and leave the rest upto God, after all, He is the one who ultimately guides and not you or I or anyone else.

I wish you all the best in whatever you do...

unknownuser

thank you all, your comments are much appreciated. So i will give you the whole story i see. No there are no links to solutions, as i have not yet written a single line.

We all live under the systems thought up by men. In all these systems there are 2 sides, with fractions from various degrees of the 2 political poles. However, it is still the same system. Here in Denmark it is written into the law that it is illegal to work against the democracy. This means that if you go into politics, you can never, EVER, even promote a system different from democracy because you would be braking the law. What you can do, is that you can join a fraction and work within the framwork of democracy to have whatever creature comfort wishes you have come true or not. But the system itself is untouchable, and the only thing that can ever make it go away. Is utter lack of corporation, or violent overthrow. History shows that violent overthrows always end up with governments that are even worse than the one it overthrew, so the option as i see it is lack of corporation. But what does that mean? Is it lack of corporation to participate in the system, while objecting to it?

I dont belive so. That is perfectly permittable within the system. It can easily handle this. When you are a knowing gear in the gearbox of the chaos engine, you may not like being it, but you are one never the less. So because of you, the engine runs. Now if more and more people simply drop out of it, at whatever cost it may have, the engine starts to weaken. In America there is the fantastic option of becomming sovereign. It is not a silverbullet, but it is the strongest political signal you can send to any government in the whole world. It is total disassociation with the system. It is saying, not only do i disagree to everything that you represent, but quite frankly. **** you and the horse you rode in on!

Why is it a concern of mine? Because this chaos engine dictates my life in close to all aspects. Can God make it go away? Obviously God can make it go away, but God doesnt. Because we created it, we can uncreate it. Having a free will means that excactly. God will not clean up our mess, we are left with it, untill we start doing something different. It is not enough to be a good neighbour, kind to people around you, and at the same time a cog in the engine. Because then the end result is that youre a shithead. You may be nice, but on the larger scale, you are very much a problem, untill you chose not to be part of the problem.

I will make a scenario from US, to try and make you understand what it is that i see in all this symbolisms, and why we need to react and very fast.

It comes down to idols...surprice ;D

In the Quran it says the idolworshippers worship that which they carve with their own hands. Ofcourse this is true when you look at them even today where they have all their carved idols, but more than anything it apply to the system they came up with. The system of their worship that all of us are trapped in, some more knowingly thereof than others. In California we see the world elite worshipping this thing.

http//www.infowars.com/images2/occult/bg_1205_ritual2.jpg

here it is with fire burning in someones rendering i think

http//www.infowars.com/images2/occult/bg_1205_ritual_fire.jpg

And now people are debating if that owl is one thing or the other. In fact, it does not matter what that owl is. what matters is that it is a carved idol, and several supreme judges and legislaters come there, to worship at its shrine.

This is directly related to the fact that judges in US use this tool

http//www.fotosearch.com/comp/Corbis/DGT083/42-16193029.jpg

and when you look it up, you will find that it is masonic. I mean they arent even really lying about all this, if youre smart enough to figure it out, they will be very honest with you, i myself have tried this. Why the hammer?

One type of stone mason's tool, having a sharp edge on one side of the head and a hammer end on the other became an emblem of the authority of the master and wardens of the lodge. This instrument resonated symbolically, since its purpose is "to break off the corner of rough stones

When you look at the street plans of washingon, you see this

http//home.iprimus.com.au/mightyarmy/BTM2_files/image030.gif

and if that isnt bad enough, here is where the peoples elected sits

http//www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/hardtruth/washington_owl.jpg
http//thebiggestsecretpict.online.fr/nwo/capitol_owl.jpg

literally in the belly of the beast. I can make a good case for this whole thing actually implying that this particular system is run from the underworld.

What im trying to tell people, and have been trying to tell people for a long time, is that the systems in place are the very idols being worshipped. Is democracy not promoted as fiercely as any relegion that you can think of? Democracy is todays relegion, and it is purely based on idolsworship, and we make all the laws and abide by them. Thus, we worship what our hands has carved. If we dont do as the messengers, and leave these idolworshippers, we are with them.

We come up with excuses, ALL, every single one of them based on creature comforts. Is this really the faith? Is this really the example set by those we admire?

As long as we corporate with the global system in place, using their credits based on fraud and lies, we are idolworshippers. If we go into politics, we are now ACTIVE idolworshippers, and we dont even realise it. Pretty much as the Quran states. They will never be pleased with us untill we follow that which they follow, and will not stop at anything to make it so. They will lie and decieve, and they are masters of it.
When ever i hear the system or its known representatives go "good muslim" about someone, i know that this person without knowing has submitted to the beast. And if we do that, we are only paying lipservice to God Allmighty.

I have really given this thought, and im sure you dont see the connection as clearly from this one post alone. But im always telling people to study this, not only becasue more minds are obviously better than my simple one, but because its a process of realising that takes quite some time. Many bitter pills are served through this, and to even find truth amongst all the lies and fearmongering takes the breath away from most. Something i dont blame them, i have cried many salt tears in frustration, only to realise that i was being dragged around by the nose like a pony, and that the truth is not avaible on any single page out there. Most pages promoting these things are but echochambers of eachother, and they all have it wrong, knowingly or not.

This is very arrogant of me to say i know, but this is where all the time i have vested in this has led me. If we dont actively repel the system/idol led by pharaos, we are part of it, regardless of all our good intentions. We are still feeding it, giving it life. And if we use the system to protest against it, we are still feeding it, and breeding into it life. So the only thing we can do, is let go of it like a bad habbit. And only then, God will start to be with us. Because in the cosmic scale of things, we are despite all our good intentions, idolworshippers, and God just dont have time or ears for them. But if we remove ourself from this as the first step, maybe we can have the full support of God. And this is what i plan to do. Im going to take it to the road. And if i survuve, YAY! i will properbly be a lot more knowledgable. If i die. YAY! im dont have to spend any more time, being sad about the system that is my tyrrant. It is a tyrrant that speaks nicely, and it is not as brutal as it has been before (becasue then people rebel), but it is the same tiured old tyrant as ever before. And the reason its still there, is because it go unchallenged as long as people coorporate with it, and its ideas in any way, even those opposing it. Al CIAda is a blessing to the tyrant, so obviously, their way of doing it wasnt the right one either.

I belive i have a hard life ahead of me. And i can but accept it. But atleast i will die, knowing that i removed myself from the biggest idol ever created.

When you look at the history of babylon and other places you start to realise that politics and relegion was the same thing. And it still is, we just dont realise so. I wonder if they realised? Personally, and this is but my pet belief, i dont think they did.

Ofcourse everyone is welcome to come along. I dont mind company at all

Alen

Peace you all
I have come to the conclution, that noone really wants any change. Not where i live, not amongst those i debate online. In reality, i seem to be a lone nut. I see the solution to our problems as clear as water, but are powerless by myself. Im going to take the consequence of this, and waste no further time on debate. Im hitting the road, so i can get to see the world around me before i will no longer have such a choice, and when im full of impressions, i wil stop eating and drinking water and make it a final goodbye. It has been a pleasure, and i have learned much by comming here. I wish you all the best in the system to come.
Kind Regards
Noah

Salam.

My dear brother, i hope that The God Almighty, The Most Powerful, The Most Just, The Most Merciful, The Most High, protect you at all times, bless you, guide you to the Right Path and reward you with Heaven.

1256 And it was such that We gave Joseph authority in the land, to travel in it as he pleases. We bestow Our mercy upon whom We please, and We do not waste the reward of the good doers.

1636 And We have sent a messenger to every nation "You shall serve God and avoid evil." Some of them were guided by God, and some of them deserved to be misguided. So travel in the land, and see how the punishment was of those who denied.

3844 "And take in your hand a bundle and travel with it, and do not break your oath." We found him steadfast. What a good servant! He was obedient.

513 Travelling easily.

If you can, you can make a stop in Ljubljana, SLOVENIA, if you travel through Europe this way. You're always welcome.

Good luck, amigo.
Peace.

Samia

Salaam Magi

Although I do not know what triggered this decision, I am really sorry that you are leaving. I just hope it is temporarily. The forum will really miss some special and unique contribution.

And believe me, we do want change; but we do not say what can we do, but how can we do it. And are still figuring it out, and doing bits and pieces.

May God make whatever you attempt successful. We will miss you.

PS Where are you going that you can't be online? Or you mean you are just leaving the forum?

unknownuser

The thing is, i wont have but little money with me, so i will only have online access at the mercy of whomever i get to speak to along the way.

and thank you Alen, i might just take you up on it )

unknownuser

Peace be upon you Noah,

As you are surely aware, there is a very powerful "GOLIATH" mentally enslaving mankind and communincating through symbolisms and so on...but my good brother, DO NOT BE MOVED! DO NOT DESPIAR! Because when you do, "they" have succeded in thier plan with you. They have succeded in being able to say "He is still only human", controlled by the lower ANIMAL(energetic body) nature. There is NEVER any reason to respond to any event with frustration, fear, anger, worry, etc. Those responses are conditioned responses, our only NATURAL response is NO RESPONSE, or PEACE. And it is only by being at PEACE that the God WITHIN can be intuited and the answers will come. This "Goliath" is programming these UNNATURAL responses into us day in and day out through TV , Radio, etc. It is THAT PROGRAMMING that we must remove ourselves away from, we do not necessarily need to physically move.

The solution is to remove ourselves from thier system of programming, and take control of our own Spirits(mental and energetic part of our being that we are responsible for) and nurture it and purify it so that the NATURAL PROGRAM can flow. It is frustration that is blocking this "natural radio station" from playing in you, and filling your head with THIER PROGRAM that comes to you as conditioned thoughts and images that THEY have associated with "frustration". All day we can watch Jerry Springer or any of the millions of shows and see how when people get "frustrated" they give up, or flee the scene....so what happens to us if we allow ourselves to get "Frustrated"? THIER PROGRAM will begin to run automatically, because our responses are automatic. Take some time to sit back and write down what thoughts and images keep coming in your head when you think of this "Goliath", and then ask yourself if those thoughts and images REALLY represent the TRUTH of the matter. We have to talk more about that , but why do you think "Goliath" doesnt really hide its program, the symbols they learned and abused, and so forth? Because they WANT you to see the power and "feel frustrated". They dont want you to reach that EYE on the top of the Pyramid, and you wont if you allow yourself to be MOVED by the emotions(energetic body). Solomon teaches us that the goal is to master the energetic body, not be controlled by it.

Brother stay, and help enlighten us all. Dont expect much gratitude and thanks except from the God within who will continue to use you as Its essel as long as you remain at Peace. As you correctly said, God uses US to make the change, there is no savior coming or any suspension of LAW (miracles), it is only through enligheted beings that the change can come. But we need people like you planting seeds and cultivating the garden(culture) to combat the weeds that GOLIATH brings forth.

Salaam/islam/muslim = all deals with this concept of PEACE. Peace be upon you brother, because it is only be reclaiming our natural emotional state , NO EMOTION(Peace/Hetep/Nirvana/Wu Ji, etc) that we are not moved by the Matrix's commands. Do not let "Goliath" MAKE YOU move, and that is what it is doing if you are leaving due to FRUSTRATION and not by your sober reasoning. I urge you to take a strong hard look at it. I can tell by your response what the answer is, respectfully. And I know it is easy to fall into the powerful thoughts and images of despiar and frustration, I have not perfected my spirit to respond to all situations with Peace either, but I am working on it, as we all must. The God says in this particular reading, something like "By the Spirit, and the right and wrong given it, surely those who purify it will succeed, and those that dont will fail". And thats the basics of it all, we are PRE CONDITIONED with these emotional responses, we have to purify our SUB CONSCIOUS (mind and energetic body) of these conditions...which is done through gaining knowledge of SELF, your true identity, that which SEES and WILLS the Nafs(subconcious mind-energetic body). It is the part of you that STAYS THE SAME, while the rest of you always changes (physical body, thoughts, emotions, likes and dislikes, beliefs, etc). Once we identify with the correct part of being, then we understand that since we are not that which feels anything, we can transcend it. But most of us associate with the energtic body, with the thoughts and images that are THROWN AUTOMATICALLY into our field of awareness. All you have to do is sit quietly and try to not have any thoughts to verify that thoughts come on thier own, outside of our command.

There is so much I want to say to you right now, but hopefully that is enough to make you think this through more. We need people like you on the front line. We need unity, not people going off on thier own, you cant do it alone, it is done through COMMUNITY.

3104 and that there might grow out of you a community who invite unto all that is good, and enjoin the doing of what is right and forbid the doing of what is wrong and it is they, they who shall attain to a happy state!

2352 And, verily, this community of yours is one single community, since I am the Sustainer of you all remain, then, conscious of Me!

My brother, look at the name you are called "Noah" and take from it the lesson that that you must continue to warn by day and by night, God's LAWS (the solid ark on which you firmly plant your feet in order to transcend the emotional/unstable water) will surely come and handle the rest. Do what you can do for others but work on your spirit so you can be at peace, and therefore when your time comes, die in peace. This wolrd is only a test, to help you work on your spirit.

All said sincerely and respectfully,

Peace

unknownuser

Noah,

Your contributions will be missed. GW you come back with renewed energy.

Peace

Ash

unknownuser