forgiveness
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what do u understand by "forgiveness"?
....views supported/referenced by quran...or views based on any other text...or ur own understanding of the matter! (-
Salam.
Quran
S?rah an N?r 2422
?Let not those among you who are endued with grace and amplitude of means resolve by oath against helping their kinsmen, those in want and those who migrated in the path of Allah. Let them forgive and overlook. Do you not wish that Allah should forgive you? Indeed Allah is oft-Forgiving, most Merciful.?S?rah ash Shura 42.40
The recompense for an injury is an injury equal thereto (in degree) but if a person forgives and makes reconciliation, his reward is due from Allah for Allah loves not those who do wrong.S?rah al Isra 17.33
Nor take life - which Allah has made sacred - except for just cause. And if anyone is slain wrongfully, we have given his heir authority (to demand qisas or to forgive) but let him not exceed bounds in the matter of taking life for he is helped (by the Law).S?rah ash Shura 4237
?Those who avoid major sins and acts of indecencies and when they are angry they forgive.?Salam.
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alen wrote
Salam.Quran
S?rah an N?r 2422
Let not those among you who are endued with grace and amplitude of means resolve by oath against helping their kinsmen, those in want and those who migrated in the path of Allah. Let them forgive and overlook. Do you not wish that Allah should forgive you? Indeed Allah is oft-Forgiving, most Merciful.S?rah ash Shura 42.40
The recompense for an injury is an injury equal thereto (in degree) but if a person forgives and makes reconciliation, his reward is due from Allah for Allah loves not those who do wrong.S?rah al Isra 17.33
Nor take life - which Allah has made sacred - except for just cause. And if anyone is slain wrongfully, we have given his heir authority (to demand qisas or to forgive) but let him not exceed bounds in the matter of taking life for he is helped (by the Law).S?rah ash Shura 4237
Those who avoid major sins and acts of indecencies and when they are angry they forgive.Salam.
very well bro...i appreciate ur valuable input! -)
salam! -)
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Peace and greetings,
Those bearing the throne of God and around it keep on asking for forgiveness of believers all the time.
In chapter 40 verse 7 to 9
7. "Those who carry the throne and all those around it glorify the praise of their Lord, and believe in Him, and they seek forgiveness for those who have believed ?Our Lord, You encompass all things with mercy and knowledge, so forgive those who repented and followed Your path, and spare them the agony of Hell.?
8. ?Our Lord, and admit them into the gardens of Eden which You had promised for them and for those who did good of their fathers, their spouses, and their progeny. You are the Noble, the Wise.?
9. ?And save them from the sins. And whomever You save from the sins, on that Day, You have granted him mercy. And that is the greatest triumph.?They are constantly favouring believers for forgiveness all the time. Believers are really lucky.
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abrar wrote
Peace and greetings,
Those bearing the throne of God and around it keep on asking for forgiveness of believers all the time.
In chapter 40 verse 7 to 9
7. "Those who carry the throne and all those around it glorify the praise of their Lord, and believe in Him, and they seek forgiveness for those who have believed Our Lord, You encompass all things with mercy and knowledge, so forgive those who repented and followed Your path, and spare them the agony of Hell.
8. Our Lord, and admit them into the gardens of Eden which You had promised for them and for those who did good of their fathers, their spouses, and their progeny. You are the Noble, the Wise.
9. And save them from the sins. And whomever You save from the sins, on that Day, You have granted him mercy. And that is the greatest triumph.obliged for ur valuable contribution! -)
They are constantly favouring believers for forgiveness all the time. Believers are really lucky
got it! -)
peace and greetings! -)
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Peace thegod, here is an article by G. A. Parwez translated by Khalid M. Sayyed which you may find interesting.
?He Forgives or Punishes Whoever He Wants?
Parts of some verses in the Quran contain phrases like the following (3/12 which are traditionally translated as, ?Allah forgives whoever He wishes and punishes whoever He wishes?. Such interpretation can only, and has, led to a concept of God who is whimsical, unpredictable, unsystematic and moody. This divine behavior is much like that of earthly absolute monarchs of ?royal disposition? in the words of the famous Persian poet Saadi Shirazi. This is quite contrary to the Quranic concept of Allah. Let us have a look at it.
Punishment (ب is usually taken to be eternal fortune in Hell. But, the Quranic use of the term encompasses much more. Consequences of all wrong human actions ? realizable both Here and in the Hereafter --- is in Quranic terms. So much so that a sentence from a court of law is also .
Maghfara ( ) does not mean ?forgiveness?. Linguistically, it means to arrange for protection. Please refer to chapter 4 where we saw that there is a period of wait between an action and its result. If someone uses this period accordingly, the probable bad consequences of an action can be averted. That is protection (1).
Let us now see who deserves and how. Sura Maaeda talks about the sins committed by the Jews and says ?Very bad it is what they have sent on for themselves. They deserve divine punishment and shall be punished
(1) I have dealt at length with this subject in my work ?Jahan-e-Farda? (Tomorrow?s World), dealing with the Hereafter.
accordingly? (5/80). Sura Aal-e-Imran, after having talked about sins by the Jews ? rejecting the Divine Law, murdering their prophets and social reformers ? says ?Tell them, O Messenger, of the (impending) torturous punishment? (3/20).
A little further on, the Sura says ?Those who reject the divine laws are punished severely (with ) in this world and also in the Hereafter? (3/55). Also ?Those who reject Allah?s laws get in Here and in the Hereafter and can never buy themselves out of it, even if they spend all the money in the world!? (5/36). Sura An?aam says ?Those who deny Our guidance, shall be subjected to punishment ( ) because of their transgression? (6/49). Sura Tauba ?The opponents of the Muslims are under the erroneous arrogance because of their wealth and numbers. This very misconception shall lead them in the battlefield!? (9/52, 9/85). Sura Hood ?These people neither think nor care, nor listen to anyone, nor see where they are going. How can they escape punishment?? (11/18-24, 2/7).
Some verses use ?rahma? as an antonym to ?azaab?. Sura Aal-e-Imran says ?O the Convinced! Take care and not behave like those who, after having had clear guidance from Allah, began squabbling and split up in factions. They are the ones who will get a big punishment when the consequences of all actions will be realized. On that occasion, some faces will come alight (as a result of their good deeds) while others will go dark because they had reverted to rejection of Allah?s laws after having adopted them. They will be told to have the taste of the punishment ?for your rejection?. The bright faced people, at the same time, shall be under Allah?s ?rahma? (safety of protection) ? (3/104 ? 106).
It is obvious from all the above that punishment comes to men because of their own actions (Law of Returns or the Law of Allah?s Will). The verses
(Interpretation of) where the subject of is Allah (whosover He wants) refer to Allah?s Will. Sura A?raaf reports Moses praying to Allah ?O Allah, bestow on us the niceties of Here and the Hereafter!? Allah replied ?(If you wish to avoid My punishment, be informed that) My punishment befalls according to (the Law of) My Will (under systematic rules, not whimsical decisions), As to My ?rahma? (Safety of Protection), it covers the entire universe but it is destined only for those among men who abide by Our laws, establish a universal system of sustenance and are fully convinced of the validity of Our laws; also for those who will follow Our illiterate Messenger, mentioned in the Torah and the Bible, who will enact the good and prohibit the bad ?.. ? (7/155-156).Sure Beni Israel ?O Messenger! Tell My adherents to converse nicely among themselves & be fair in their dealings because the Devil wants to split you up in warring factions. Don?t follow him as he is your sworn enemy. Allah knows what you do! If (your deeds are) according to Allah?s will, you will deserve His ?rahma? (Safety of Protection); otherwise, punishment (azaab) will befall you. It is entirely upto them to chose between Allah?s ?rahma? and ?azaab?. O Messenger! You have not been appointed to force them to make the right choice! (17/54).
----------- x ? x ? x ? x ------------Let us now examine ?maghfara?.
It can have two applications 1) In an epidemic, people with a greater power of resistance escape it --- in the Quranic set-up, this type of ?maghfara? comes
(Two Applications of ?maghfara? ) with precautionary measures men may
take against calamities. 2) The epidemic victimizes one who survives but is left very weak and recovers fully when properly treated ? in the Quranic setup, this type of ?maghfara? comes with ?tauba? (repentance). The Quranic concept of ?tauba? may be illustrated by the example of a wayfarer who, taking a wrong turning, goes away from the intended destination. As soon as he realizes the mistake, he turns back and returns to the spot where the wrong turning was taken. This return is known as ?tauba? But obviously, returning to the spot of mistake is not enough. One must resume the journey on the right path. That is ?good deeds? in the Quranic terms. This concept is elaborated in Sura Nisa ?To Allah ?tauba? is for those who happen to make an error due to ignorance but return as soon as they realize it; in that case Allah (His Law) also returns to them .. ? (4/17). Subsequent to this first step, ?and then if the returnee does good deeds out of conviction, only then shall he be among the successful? (28/67).The other application of ?maghfara? is based upon the principle
(Good Deeds Neutralize Bad One) ?Ctertainly, good deeds push away the
bad ones? (11/114). All this should clarify the verse (3/12 at head of this chapter. That is, whoever stubbornly refuses to learn from mistakes, gets
(Punishment & Forgiveness) ?azzab?; but one who amends one?s
mistakes will escape it. It is illustrated in Sura Maaeda where a thief?s punishment is mentioned. The verse goes on to say ?and whoever returns after his wrong deed, and does good, Allah shall return to him. Surely, Allah is the provider of ?maghfara? (safety of protection) and ?rahma? (niceness)?. But, why should ?maghfara? and ?azaab? go hand in hand? It is because the Quran wanted to create a realistic balance between the two extremes of the Jewish (all punishment, no forgiveness) and the Christian (all mercy, no punishment) value-systems. The Quran says ?Don?t they know that it is Allah who controls supreme over all universe? He does it through His Laws. Similar divine laws have been suggested for human societies so that the application of punishment (ب and safety of protection (ة is done according to laws & principles given by Allah? (5/38-40).It follows, therefore, that a culprit should be punished only if he / she persists in criminal activity. Repentance and reformation must result in forgiveness. ?Whether you expose or conceal whatever is in your hearts, Allah takes it all into account. Then, punishment or forgiveness is decided according to His laws ? and Allah has set laws for everything? (2/284). Elsewhere ?Whosoever so wishes may get (through one?s actions) punishment (ب or niceness (ة ? (29/21).
Sura Maaeda refers to the Jews and the Christians claiming to be
(Allah Has No Favorite Offspring) God?s favored children which exempted
them from punishment. The Quran replied by asking ?Punishment in the Hereafter aside, why does Allah punish you in Here? Allah has no children, favorite or otherwise. He punishes or protects people according to His laws as to Him alone is the control of the entire universe? (5/1The same sura explains ?Allah has promised safety or protection and great rewards to those who are convinced of His laws and then do good deeds accordingly? (5/9). In Sura Fath, after having spoken of the worthy attributes of ?Mohammed, the Messenger of Allah, and the people with, him says ?Allah has promised safety of protection and great reward to the Convinced who do good deeds? ? (48/29). Sura Hood gives safety of protection and great reward as the return of good deeds and steadfastness? ? (11/11). This is repeated in (33/35). Sura Ahzaab, after having listed the attributes of Muslim men and women, says ?Allah has for them ready the safety of protection and a great reward? ? (33/35).
Contrarily; ?polytheism? cannot get safety of protection (4/48; 4/116); ?people who commit rejection of Allah?s laws and are unfair, and persist, cannot get ?maghfara? ? ? (4/16.
The basic principle of reward and punishment is so beautifully given in the following verse
?Why would Allah punish you if you are convinced of the validity of His laws and use his bounties properly?? (4/147).Another important aspect of the Quranic system of punishment and forgiveness is the individual circumstances of the accused involved. For example, two
(Punishment according to Circumstances) culprits of the same crime
should not have a similar sentence if their individual circumstances differ in background, i.e., upbringing, education, awareness etc. That is why, the Quran proposes that women of possession (1) be given half the normal sentence (4/25), whereas ladies of the Messenger?s family were to be sentenced TWICE of the usual! (33/30-32),In addition to the individual, collective situation of a society must also be taken into consideration because ?when vices spread widely in a society, Evil takes over (76/7), sparing no one from its effect. Therefore, the Convinced
(Collective Punishment) must safeguard against such a situation ?and
take care of such an evil as it does not confine itself only to the wrong-doers? .? (8/25). For example, a broken dam floods not only the areas of bad workmen
(Individual are Bound by Society) guilty of a faulty job but also those
completely detached from the situation. That is why the Quran emphasizes reformation of society as a whole which will automatically affect individuals. ?Al-Deen? is a social system which brings peace to its members. This was the point made by Omar ibn Al-Khatab, the second Caliph, when he punished the employer whose mistreatment drove some of his employees to stealing food! In another instance, Omar suspended the punishment for stealing food (just enough to quench hunger) during famine.
The misconception that salvation and forgiveness is not dependent upon Man?s deeds but on Allah?s whims and moods has sent Muslims down the
(Requests for Forgiveness) deepest pits of destruction as a nation. This(1) At the advent of Islam, buying, selling and possessing women for concubinage and other purposes, was part of life. The Quran refers to them as ?those possess by your right hands?. That was to be temporary for all practical purposes. Subsequently, the Quran outlawed the practice.
erroneous idea has led them to beliefs and practices such as this No matter how many wrong or bad deeds one commits, Allah will forgive one if one recites 33 times the chant of ?Please Allah, forgive? after every prayer. The Quranic truth, however, is ?This is the Paradise you are inherited with because of your deeds!? (43/72) Today, Muslims believe that they will enter Paradise only because of Allah?s benevolent mood and momentary sweet will. The fact of the matter is that the Quran has said
?Do you think you will enter Paradise easily? Nay, you haven?t yet gone through the harsh stages like peoples of by-gone ages ? so harsh that the earth shook under their feet and the messenger and his companions wondered when Allah?s help would come! Allah consoled them by glad tidings of the imminent divine support? (2/214).
Mohammed, the Messenger of Allah, is reported to have said ?Paradise exists under the shade of swords!?
Sadly, that is not the end of the story. Incredible as it may appear, the fact is that one of the two most authentic works of Hadith (the Messenger?s
(Pride in Sins) tradition), MUSLIM, reports the following from Mohammed
(Sin or Allah will perish you) ?By the One who possesses my self, if you don?t sin at all, Allah will remove you and replace you with those who will indulge in sins and then seek Allah?s forgiveness?.No wonder the crime and sin rates are unabated in most Muslim societies!
Adherents to the mystical tradition, sufis, have reported fantastic stories
(Mystics, too!) to make the point. One particular episode ?A devotee, after
having worshipped Allah for twelve years in a jungle, heard the divine Say what you want? Searching for a reply, he noticed a sage (actually, the Devil) appeared and suggested asking for justice. His request for justice was replied by ?OK. You sat and worshipped on a stone for twelve years. Justice demands that this stone sits atop you for twelve years! After those painful twelve years, Allah inquired of his request once again. This time, the mystic, having learned his lesson the hard way, asked for Allah?s benevolence. He was rewarded by appointment to the rank of ?Qutub? (a high ranking in the traditional mystic hierarchy), with the admonition
?Remember, justice is demanded by the devilish. Muslims always seek Our Benevolence!?The source of such ideas appears to be the Christian dogmas invented by St. Paul. In one of his letters in the New Testament, he writes ?Your have
(St. Paul?s Influence) been salvaged because of belief. It is not because of
your deeds. It is God?s gift? ? (Afseeoon, 2/8,9). Elsewhere ?Therefore, we conclude that Man is considered righteous because of belief, not because of deeds of religion? --- (To the Romans 3/2.This established the Christian dogma of ?God is Mercy?. Such concepts found their way into Muslim philosophy, supported by fabricated traditions like ?No one among you shall enter Paradise because of deeds!? ? (from Taj al Uroos).
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guest wrote
Peace thegod, here is an article by G. A. Parwez translated by Khalid M. Sayyed which you may find interesting.He Forgives or Punishes Whoever He Wants
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This established the Christian dogma of God is Mercy. Such concepts found their way into Muslim philosophy, supported by fabricated traditions like No one among you shall enter Paradise because of deeds! (from Taj al Uroos).
quite informative....i appreciate ur participation!
peace guest! -)
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Salam.
We should forgive.
After all, when we arrive before The God Almighty, it is going to be one really big event. I mean, to stand before The God, people, that's gonna be ..... something that a human hasn't face, that's why some people will be completely surprised and schoked because they were unprepared.Thank God Almighty that He is guiding us on the Straight Path.
We should forgive our enemies.
They have no idea what The Hell is.Salam.
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alen wrote
Salam.We should forgive.
After all, when we arrive before The God Almighty, it is going to be one really big event. I mean, to stand before The God, people, that's gonna be ..... something that a human hasn't face, that's why some people will be completely surprised and schoked because they were unprepared.cool! -)
Thank God Almighty that He is guiding us on the Straight Path.
We should forgive our enemies.hope so! -)
They have no idea what The Hell is.
how about those who do have an idea as to what hell is?
...i mean like somebody here does something unpleasant....
how will u "forgive" that person?
....would u completely "forget" the incident...or simply not take "revenge"? -)
salam! -)
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Peace and greetings
Following Verses of Quran illustrate the concept of kindness
"...and do good as God has done good to you..." 2877
".......Let them pardon and forgive. Would you not like God to forgive you? And God is Forgiving, Merciful." 2422
"Take to pardoning, and order with what is good, and turn away from the ignorant ones." 7199
"It was a mercy from God that you were soft towards them; had you been harsh and mean hearted, they would have dispersed from you; so pardon them and ask forgiveness for them, and consult them in the matter; but when you are convinced, then put your trust in God; God loves those who trust." 3159
"Push away evil with that which is better. We are better aware of what they describe." 2396
"......and they counter sin with good; these will have an excellent abode." 1322
"And the servants of the Almighty who walk on the Earth in humility and if the ignorant speak to them, they Say Peace." 2563 -
Before one forgives, it is essential that they establish their right first. There is no meaning for forgiveness if you are helpless. This is not forgiveness. That's what this verse tells us
42.40
The recompense for an injury is an injury equal thereto (in degree) but if a person forgives and makes reconciliation, his reward is due from Allah for Allah loves not those who do wrong.I also don't agree fully with the translation of "reconciliation" for the verb "aSla7a ". This verb has the notion of "doing a good deed", a step above forgiveness. For example you forgive someone who harmed you. You should not stop there, but help them solve the problem that makes them aggressive. This is "iSlaa7 ", not reconciliation.
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abrar wrote
peace and greetings
Following Verses of Quran illustrate the concept of kindness
"...and do good as God has done good to you..." 2877
".......Let them pardon and forgive. Would you not like God to forgive you? And God is Forgiving, Merciful." 2422
"Take to pardoning, and order with what is good, and turn away from the ignorant ones." 7199
"It was a mercy from God that you were soft towards them; had you been harsh and mean hearted, they would have dispersed from you; so pardon them and ask forgiveness for them, and consult them in the matter; but when you are convinced, then put your trust in God; God loves those who trust." 3159
"Push away evil with that which is better. We are better aware of what they describe." 2396
"......and they counter sin with good; these will have an excellent abode." 1322
"And the servants of the Almighty who walk on the Earth in humility and if the ignorant speak to them, they Say Peace." 2563indeed....very illustrative! -)
so does 1 completely forget the incident?
...like say i wrong somebody and ask for forgiveness....
is the other person within her/his rights to not afford me the same level of respect/trust as before?
...or would that mean i ve not been truly forgiven? -)
think i sound a bit vague....hope not too (vague)....! -)
peace and greetings! -)
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samia wrote
Before one forgives, it is essential that they establish their right first. There is no meaning for forgiveness if you are helpless. This is not forgiveness.establish their right..hmmm...so does that mean unless 1 has the power to avenge...1 does not have the power to forgive? and that in such a situation there really is no such thing as "forgiveness"? -)
That's what this verse tells us
42.40
The recompense for an injury is an injury equal thereto (in degree) but if a person forgives and makes reconciliation, his reward is due from Allah for Allah loves not those who do wrong.I also don't agree fully with the translation of "reconciliation" for the verb "aSla7a ". This verb has the notion of "doing a good deed", a step above forgiveness.
at the moment i agree that it does not seem to be reconciliation...i personally think slh has something to do with either "right", "correct", "acceptable", "beneficial", or "conducive"....hmmm...whatever! -)
For example you forgive someone who harmed you. You should not stop there, but help them solve the problem that makes them aggressive.
okay..."you should not stop there"....i think u are talking about the best approach and not the necessary approach? or have i got that wrong? -)
This is "iSlaa7 ", not reconciliation.
cool! -)
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establish their right..hmmm...so does that mean unless 1 has the power to avenge...1 does not have the power to forgive? and that in such a situation there really is no such thing as "forgiveness"? -)
Sort of! For example, Someone owes you money, but he insists he paid you that. What are you going to forgive? You have to establish your right to that money, then forgive him and leave it for him, but not before. God set the law for us to establish our right. When it is punishment or payback time, you forgive.
okay..."you should not stop there"....i think u are talking about the best approach and not the necessary approach? or have i got that wrong? -)
You got it right. "iSlaa7" in this context is a degree higher than forgiveness.
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Peace and greetings,
Peace and greetings,
"## so does 1 completely forget the incident?
...like say i wrong somebody and ask for forgiveness...."
Yes if you have done wrong and have repented and asked for forgiveness from the one you mistreated and compensated his loss in an appropriate way if you have caused any, you must forget your guilt completely and promise yourself not to do it again.
"is the other person within her/his rights to not afford me the same level of respect/trust as before?
...or would that mean i ve not been truly forgiven? -)"
It depends on the other person that how he reacts to your repentance and if he does not afford you the same level of respect/trust you must not get dishearted or concerned as the other person is a human and it takes time to adjust. It is advisable for the hurt person to forgive as easily as possible to ensure his personal peace of mind and in order to move away from undesirable feelings and anger. However it may take time to adjust but forgiving others is key to making peace and understanding. It is also peacful and good for one's own self as well.
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samia wrote
Sort of! For example, Someone owes you money, but he insists he paid you that. What are you going to forgive? You have to establish your right to that money, then forgive him and leave it for him, but not before. God set the law for us to establish our right. When it is punishment or payback time, you forgive.okay....i think i get what u r saying! -)
..but does that mean u carry "hard feelings" till then?
You got it right. "iSlaa7" in this context is a degree higher than forgiveness.
cool! -)
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abrar wrote
Peace and greetingspeace and greetings! -)
Yes if you have done wrong and have repented and asked for forgiveness from the one you mistreated and compensated his loss in an appropriate way if you have caused any, you must forget your guilt completely and promise yourself not to do it again.
well...that isnt what i meant...but yes, u have made a very interesting point there! -)
....i was trying to ask should the wronged person completely forget the wrong done to him/her? -)
It depends on the other person that how he reacts to your repentance and if he does not afford you the same level of respect/trust you must not get dishearted or concerned as the other person is a human and it takes time to adjust. It is advisable for the hurt person to forgive as easily as possible to ensure his personal peace of mind and in order to move away from undesirable feelings and anger. However it may take time to adjust but forgiving others is key to making peace and understanding. It is also peacful and good for one's own self as well.
that's pretty good advice there! -)
just so that i can understand a lil better is it possible that the person has forgiven me.....even if s/he chooses not to be warm and friendly as before? -)
peace and greetings! -)
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Abrar wrote
It is advisable for the hurt person to forgive as easily as possible to ensure his personal peace of mind
Forgive what if the guilty person repented and compensated? If this person is still angry, this is called transgression. He has no forgiveness to give, but he is asked to try to forget. After repentence and compensating, forgiveness is now in the realm of God. The repenting person is clear in this world and should not bother about the other one. But here comes the "iSla7" where the repenting person should teach the hurt one some good manners!!