What would you do?

Alen

Salam.

If i was the president of the USA right now ..... i'd fix Mexico's infrastructure, so immigrants wouldn't be running to LA.
I'd also pull out all US troops from Iraq and resign, i'd give Hilary a chance.

Of course, these are just ideas, we can do something, if we just apply .....

Peace.

savage_carrot

i'd fix Mexico's infrastructure, so immigrants wouldn't be running to LA.

I don't think LA would be safe from immigrants solely by 'fixing Mexico's infrastructure'

get the troups out of iraq for sure but that wouldn't stop the massacre anyway - would be like lighting a fire and then just leave the people to burn in it - thank god i'm not in his place !

I know what you mean. I suppose it would depend on whether I could even do what I wanted to since personally I think there are levels of approval to go through, different groups to consider before anything can actually take place, if it ever got approved in the first place.

guest

Why not transform earth into haven like environment? This will take care of all problems including Iraq. We already have the resources, guidance and means. It has been shown to work in the past on vast portion of the earth.

Alen

Why not transform earth into haven like environment? This will take care of all problems including Iraq. We already have the resources, guidance and means. It has been shown to work in the past on vast portion of the earth.

Salam.

Heaven and Earth are different in 1 thing Time.
That's why Heaven is better the Earth, there's no Time in Heaven.

Peace.

guest

Peace Alen, I did not say Earth=Heaven. I was talking about heavenly attributes such as peace, no fighting, no forced professions , no slavery, not forcing your will on to someone else, ??And we have all that is necessary to accomplish it.

unknownuser

use my powerfull ally freinds to create total chaos, preferbly by ignoring the boarders to mexico and create smokescreens in my own backyard and then weasel out on a technicality if it fails. However it wont, because i made sure to have patriot act 1 and 2 in place before i did anything drastic. that way i could just call in the UN under guise of martial law if the people became troublesome.
Oh wait...thats what he did allready. I guess i would do the same thing that he did. THey won
Iraq. It is THEIR boys sitting in government, make no mistake about this FACT!

mission accomplished, we just need to find a way to pull out that doesnt make it all too obvious.

Unless ofcourse, and this is my personal pet belief, he is being sacrificed. The showpony has done its thing, now we eat it for supper, and take over the nation and later the entire continent, and when that has happened. where is left to go but the rest of the world. Africa is no problem, we have made sure of that, china is our freinds, and lodge brothers working under the system we came up with, europe...dont make me laugh, those fat assed morons have no idea they have been had for some 1600 years, atleast the Americans was smart at some point!

zenje

Peace all,

Here is what I would do

Applogize to the Iraqi people and the world for the crimes commited against them since 1991.
Well, Bush being Bush, he decided to send 21000 more troops instead.

This was an interview on CBS 60 minutes that I saw clips of. Something Bush said (among many) that had me - )
http//www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/01/14/60minutes/main2359119.shtml

PELLEY Do you think you owe the Iraqi people an apology for not doing a better job?

BUSH That we didn't do a better job or they didn't do a better job?

PELLEY Well, that the United States did not do a better job in providing security after the invasion.

BUSH Not at all. I am proud of the efforts we did. We liberated that country from a tyrant. I think the Iraqi people owe the American people a huge debt of gratitude, and I believe most Iraqis express that. I mean, the people understand that we've endured great sacrifice to help them. That's the problem here in America. They wonder whether or not there is a gratitude level that's significant enough in Iraq.

On Saddam's Hanging...

PELLEY I wonder if there was also some sense of satisfaction. You've had this guy (Saddam) in your sights for a long time.

BUSH Not really. Not really. I was satisfied when we captured him. I'm just not . . .revenge isn't necessarily something that causes me to react. In other words, I'm not a revengeful person. I'm glad he received the justice that was due.

PELLEY I'm curious. How did you see the video?

BUSH Internet.

PELLEY You called it up on the internet and watched it?

BUSH Somebody showed me parts of it. Yeah. I didn't wanna watch the whole thing.

PELLEY Well, you keep saying "parts of it." What do you mean you didn't wanna watch the whole thing?

BUSH I wasn't sure what to anticipate beyond the yelling and stuff like that. And I didn't . . .

PELLEY You didn't wanna see him go through the trapdoor.

BUSH Yeah. Yes. I didn't.

Alen

Salam.

If i was Gorge W. Bush, i'd make a complete U-Turn and i'm talking really big U-Turn

Pull all soldiers back home.
Start rebuilding Mexican infrastructure so that they don't cross the borders illegally at least.
Education and medical help/medicine - totally free of charge.
No more death penalty.
Robbers would do community work instead of lying in jail, watching tv all day, reading paper and eating without working for food.
Rapists would be hit 100 times with a whip in some public place.
Remove the $25.000.000 USD on Usama bin Laden's head.
Release all prisoners from Guantanamo Bay.
Focus on growing healthy food.
Ban tobacco, alcohol, prostituition, pornographic material. Also make sure there are no porn sites on the net.
Same salaries for all 300.000.000 people in USA.
Invest in NASA, try to build a peace base on Mars.
Build a space ship in Earth's orbit and later investigate space.

Peace.

mr__humble

peace, all,

Salam.

If i was Gorge W. Bush, i'd make a complete U-Turn and i'm talking really big U-Turn

Pull all soldiers back home.
Start rebuilding Mexican infrastructure so that they don't cross the borders illegally at least.
Education and medical help/medicine - totally free of charge.
No more death penalty.
Robbers would do community work instead of lying in jail, watching tv all day, reading paper and eating without working for food.
Rapists would be hit 100 times with a whip in some public place.
Remove the $25.000.000 USD on Usama bin Laden's head.
Release all prisoners from Guantanamo Bay.
Focus on growing healthy food.
Ban tobacco, alcohol, prostituition, pornographic material. Also make sure there are no porn sites on the net.
Same salaries for all 300.000.000 people in USA.
Invest in NASA, try to build a peace base on Mars.
Build a space ship in Earth's orbit and later investigate space.

Peace.

it sounds like Alen if you are president, your country would be called I.S.A., Islamic State of America, which is a good thing!

before i would do anything else, i would do about all of what you said Alen, with emphasis more on foreign affairs and reducing the national debt, if the national debt crisis isn't solved within the next 20/30 years from now, America will be in serious trouble, no matter how much bravado comes out of the republicans and democrats. majority of the world emerging powers have a huge advantage over America, Americans buy more foreign products than they would buy Domestic products... and foreign investors have majority control of Debt, there should be a compromising solution between labor and its value when the U.S. is trading, otherwise, they will never get out of debt which just keeps building on like an exponential growth.

peace, Rifat

unknownuser

oh man you have my vote bro Alen !!!!!

peace

unknownuser

Salam.

Heaven and Earth are different in 1 thing Time.
That's why Heaven is better the Earth, there's no Time in Heaven.

Peace.

Hello

Actually, I believe that there will be time in the heaven according to the Quran, it is just not 24 hours a day as we know it, it can be anything Allah can make

Salam

Lost_Philosopher

Salam.

If i was Gorge W. Bush, i'd make a complete U-Turn and i'm talking really big U-Turn

Pull all soldiers back home.
Start rebuilding Mexican infrastructure so that they don't cross the borders illegally at least.
Education and medical help/medicine - totally free of charge.
No more death penalty.
Robbers would do community work instead of lying in jail, watching tv all day, reading paper and eating without working for food.
Rapists would be hit 100 times with a whip in some public place.
Remove the $25.000.000 USD on Usama bin Laden's head.
Release all prisoners from Guantanamo Bay.
Focus on growing healthy food.
Ban tobacco, alcohol, prostituition, pornographic material.
Same salaries for all 300.000.000 people in USA.
Invest in NASA, try to build a peace base on Mars.
Build a space ship in Earth's orbit and later investigate space.

Peace.

I think Alen got it, the only problem is that your Bush, radical muslims still hate you. Without militant Islam you would go unoposed. Except that you might have some oposition with alcohol and porno knowing that they're only legal beacuse of freedom of expression, which is in the constitution.

peace, all,

it sounds like Alen if you are president, your country would be called I.S.A., Islamic State of America, which is a good thing! D

peace, Rifat

Theres a problem with that, its a constitutional amendment that the govermnet can't sponsor a religion. You can get the cross, 6 star, and yin-yang on a cemetery, but that about as far as your gonna get before the "Seperation between church and state" people get on you.

unknownuser

PEace Bro Lost

I don't really believe there is separation of church and state though. We wouldn't keep having the same issues pop up every four years - expanding/narrowing abortion rights, gay rights, and more recently stem cell research. If there really is a separation, there wouldn't be a whole controversy for a Congressman to get sworn in with a quran instead of a bible, etc etc etc. I remember a couple years ago there was a big deal about taking down the ten commandments from a federal building.

Do you believe a separation of church and state is even beneficial? My opinion is that it isn't. I think with the right "church" that is tolerant and all inclusive of other's freedoms to enjoy their own religions it probably would be more efficient than this two-step shuffle you see going on every once in awhile on Capitol Hill.

Lost_Philosopher

PEace Bro Lost

I don't really believe there is separation of church and state though. We wouldn't keep having the same issues pop up every four years - expanding/narrowing abortion rights, gay rights, and more recently stem cell research. If there really is a separation, there wouldn't be a whole controversy for a Congressman to get sworn in with a quran instead of a bible, etc etc etc. I remember a couple years ago there was a big deal about taking down the ten commandments from a federal building.

Do you believe a separation of church and state is even beneficial? My opinion is that it isn't. I think with the right "church" that is tolerant and all inclusive of other's freedoms to enjoy their own religions it probably would be more efficient than this two-step shuffle you see going on every once in awhile on Capitol Hill.

I dont know of any church that fully meets those requirements, so untill that happens , Im for seperation of church and state.

jankren

Religious country is a big no-no because tolerance and equality are harder to achieve in such a country. I believe people who do not belong to the religion which is set as their state's official religion would most likely face a condition in which they are at the mercy of those who do. Moreover, the majority would also feel they are more rightful citizens of the country than the minorities who belong to different faith. We must remember that people are people. Therefore, Islamic state or Christian state or whatever should never exist.

Peace,

AspeRin

peace jankren

yeah an islamic state based on shariah is bad,but islamic state on quran is what we all need.
thats if u want to obey God and his comands.
it will take place only with time,not with violence,and it is possible,im optimistic on this one.

peace

unknownuser

Peace

A true Islamic state would allow for complete freedom but with responsibility. you can't corrupt the moral fabric of society and call it your "freedom of expression". There are prices to pay for hurting others while there still is a level of tolerance for a difference of opinion or a difference of faith. I think it can be very much all inclusive. There is nothing in the quran that promotes violence or opression towards others just because they believe in a different religion. In a quranic state everyone can be represented, based not on what faith they follow but the character and integrity they possess. In that sense, all would be fairly represented - christians, jews, sunnis, shias etc etc since the criteria of a true muslim would lie not in a label but your actions to society, other countries and the environment. I don't see any monopoly of power if it was truly Islamic. I would definitely embrace an Islamic state. but i think we still have a very long way to go before we can get there. God-willing in our lifetimes

IronSky

Peace to all,

Sign me up too, I agree Boost and Asperin, this is what ive been saying since I started posting here, we need to form a Quran/God alone society. It would be tolerant and inclusive, not guided by Shariah which is from hadeeth but its legal concepts would be derived from Quran. This has never yet been done in history and I have this funny feeling that if we tried to do this God just may approve, can you imagine how much good we can do if we were succesfull. I think its almost time to stop our talking here and start doing,,,, and I do have some ideas on this.

Kurt

Alen

Peace to all,
Sign me up too, I agree Boost and Asperin, this is what ive been saying since I started posting here, we need to form a Quran/God alone society. It would be tolerant and inclusive, not guided by Shariah which is from hadeeth but its legal concepts would be derived from Quran. This has never yet been done in history and I have this funny feeling that if we tried to do this God just may approve, can you imagine how much good we can do if we were succesfull. I think its almost time to stop our talking here and start doing,,,, and I do have some ideas on this.
Kurt

Salam.

Kurt, count me in.
I mean, i already have several ideas how to form a Quranic country. We already have the platform, that would be USA or Europe or South America, it doesn't matter which one, it's important that these places have lots of people.
AlhamdilAllah.
Now, we need to elect a Quran Alone Muslim to the office and install the right laws. I'm not saying that this newly elected person should "destroy" the life of the disbelievers, i'm just saying that such a president should show to the people why should they follow him or believe like him or support him or vote for him.

Example If on the next election a Quran Alone Muslim wanted to run for office (USA) and he or she wins, that president should first offer those things that all, lierally all people want and need free stuff that we are given by The God health and education. I think that if Hilary R. Clinton said that if she is elected president, that she will make medical help and education free of charge, i'm sure that they would vote for her in a second.
Then, this president would start removing the bad stuff from the society but not in the way that it seems he's doing this to satisfy his own needs. For example president bans tobacco and alcohol and then brings in all the doctors in the country at the round table and they explain why we should live without tobacco and alcohol.

Yes, i know, people would be unemployed. Don't worry, i got a plan for them. These people that just got fired, because their companies closed, will receive certain amount of money that will help them survive one year in which they must either look for another job or the government will search for them or help them find anothe job and stop spying on other countries.

The president should then ban prostituition and gambling, which means Las Vegas will change. Many people there will become sober and will have to stop gambling because this will be the law now.

People who steal, rob banks, little thiefs, all of them should be working and not lying in cells all day long thinking of the next robbery as soon as their bail kicks in. I don't care what job, give them something, they can either clean the streets, recycle paper, fish at the sea or even clean windows all day, just as long as they learn to earn money and not steal it.

Weapons will not be on sale anymore. At least not the big ones. Who needs AK-47 for home protection? The biggest gun they should be selling is a hand gun and instead of bullets, a new invention rubber bullets, i think they already have them, right? So, when someone shoots someone, at least no one will die, cry, avenge or be arrested.

Salaries All citizens of such a country will have equal salaries. From the president to the last maid or the miner.

Cars One car per family. I mean, do we all really need to polut the air so much? We alread yhave planes, trains, buses, .... right?

All soldiers will be home, protecting the borders and not caring for other people's oil or any other interests they might find in their soil.

Religious duties will be allowed everywhere, kindergarten, school, workplace, airports, outdoors, everywhere.

Taxes will be reduced to the minimum.

Rapists will be punished with 100 lashes at the public place and therefore people will learn that looking at the woman's chest might cause him trouble in the future, let alone touching her or harming her.

There are more things i wanna write but don't wanna write too long. These laws could be installed in USA today and even now, right now, if we just put our heads together. All we do is keep visiting this forum and just tlak about it.

I'm not a US citizen but if i was there, i would do something. Just remember Malcolm X or Martin Luther King, they did something, they walked, they said i will do this and they did it.

Many Americans from this forum have a beautiful opportunity to take charge and do something. You have the chance of a life time to make things better. I can try in my country all i want, but here, i'm just one person who thinks this way, well, two people, my brother shares the same thing i wrote here, so there, two of us here in Slovenia who would install these laws that i wrote, out of 47.000 sunnis here and bear in mind, 2.000.000 Slovenians are not exactly in love with Islam nor do they like us very much and they're strongly against building a 1. mosque so you can understand me.

Peace.