Self-Sufficiency
-
Peace All
Just wanderring are any of you here intrested in Self-Sufficiency living.
Peace SalimSalam.
Self-Sufficiency Living?
Sure, no problerm.
It would be my dream-come-true thing, if we could eliminate the oil completely and drive around on water instead of oil.I am interested, if you could explain this a little more in detail.
Best of luck to ya, brother.Peace.
-
Peace All
Majority of us here in the west have sold our freedom by buying in to the consumerism society ,how many of us have the knowledge to grow there own food ,keep our self warm without electricity /gas keep our self cool ,hunt how to skin an animal our poultry. Find water and how to purify it.
These are some of the basics that most humans should be skilled in yet most of us have lost these skills or have not been taught them because of the convenience of a mini mart or super store . This in turn leads us to subservient to the person /people who provide our necessities. Which leads to oppression of those who do not have by those who have.
Yet we can turn this trend down by learning these skills of self sustainability and passing them down the generations .A person who has the basic skills of sustainability can provide for them selves are harder to control and manipulate than those who can not.
I hope to expand by sharing my experiences of self sustainability with other?s if any of you are interested in future posts ,also would be interested with others experiences on this subject so that we can all broaden our knowledge base .
Peace Salim
-
peace salgan
growing your own food sounds nice,i dont want to pay taxes,i do my best to avoid their products,their tricks dont fool me,i know damn well where the tax money goes,evil scum of the earth...
its all much healthier,more peace.of course i want it.and God willing something will come out and ill do it,the thing is now it is time to do something else...
but definitely it is on my plans!a piece of land,house in it,some good field to plant,few animals,and a job i can do with my hands that would bring some money...you can call it "dreams" if you want to,its kind of like that.
i used to hate it,i used to be a consumption whore too busy to quit doing something because i didnt wanted things to simply...change.
i encourage anyone who is up to this,to continue with this idea.
peace be with you all
-
peace
haha,skin the animals,let me explain.when u are really hungry and u got an animal you'll kill it,skin it,cook it yourself,then after that ull get used to it.
i know we are used to the confort,but ill trade peace for some confort,because after all peace is confort...
peace -
take a wild guess my man
peace
-
peace excactly. apart from the inbreeding they are on to something, like it or not.
-
Peace All
Phoenix 1 your question on who will teach us self sustainability , you your self has to have the will to learn first of all .I will give you an example .
I see from your posts in other discussions in free minds you are interested in the Quran and as such you your self has taken on the responsibility to go and gather as much information ,so you can and start to question and try to understand the Quran .You have let go of the Uncle Tom mentality by doing this ,by taking the step to question and go out to look for the answers you have broken the chains of slavery to the so called Imamas (mullahas) of this world.
So the answer to your question who will teach us self sustainability is were there is a will there is a way.
Most people on free minds have taken the first steps to freeing them from the bonds of mental servitude but the journey is long and full of pitfalls.
Peace Salim
-
Equity in Useful Employment
by Ivan Illich
from Toward a History of NeedsAt present, every new need that is professionally certified translates sooner or later into a right. The political pressure for the enactment of each right generates new jobs and commodities. Each new commodity degrades an activity by which people so far have been able to cope on their own; each new job takes away legitimacy from work so far done by the unemployed. The power of professions to measure what shall be good, right, and done warps the desire, willingness, and ability of the "common" man to live within his means.
When the right of a citizen to a lawyer has been established, settling the dispute in the pub will be branded unenlightened or antisocial, as home births are now. Already the right of each citizen of Detroit to live in a home that has been professionally wired turns the auto-electrician who installs his own plugs into a lawbreaker. The loss of one liberty after another to be useful when out of a job or outside professional control is the unnamed but also the most resented experience that comes with modernized poverty. By now the most significant privilege of high social status might well be some vestige of freedom for useful unemployment that is increasingly denied to the great majority.
The insistence on the right to be taken care of and supplied has almost turned into the right of industries and professions to conquer clients, to supply them with their product, and by their deliveries to obliterate the environmental conditions that make unemployed activities useful. Thus, for the time being, the struggle for an equitable distribution of the time and the power to be useful to self and others outside employment or the draft has been effectively paralyzed. Work done off the paid job is looked down upon if not ignored. Autonomous activity threatens the employment level, generates deviance, and detracts from the GNP therefore it is only improperly called "work." Labor no longer means effort or toil but the mysterious mate wedded to productive investments. Work no longer means the creation of a value perceived by the worker but mainly a job, which is a social relationship. Unemployment means sad idleness, rather than the freedom to do things that are useful for oneself or for one's neighbor. An active woman who runs a house and brings up children and takes in those of others is distinguished from a woman who works, no matter how useless or damaging the product of this work might be. Activity, effort, achievement, or service outside a hierarchical relationship and unmeasured by professional standards threatens a commodity-intensive society. The generation fo use-values that escape effective measurement limits not only the need for more commodities but also the jobs that create them and the paychecks needed to buy them.
In the Middle Ages there was no salvation outside the Church, and theologians had a hard time explaining what God did with those pagans who were visibly virtuous or saintly. Similarly, in contemporary society effort is not productive unless it is done at the behest of a boss, and economists have a hard time dealing with the obvious usefulness of people when they are outside the control of a corporation, volunteer agency, or labor camp. Work is productive, respectable, worthy of the citizen only when the work process is planned, monitored, and controlled by a professional agent, who ensures that the work meets a certified need in a standardized fashion. In an advanced industrial society it becomes almost impossible to seek, or even to imagine, unemployment as a condition for autonomous, useful work. The infrastructure of society is so arranged that only the job gives access to the tools of production, and this monopoly of commodity production over the generation of use-values turns even more stringent as the state takes over. Only with a licence may you teach a child; only at a clinic may you set a broken bone. Housework, handicrafts, subsistence agriculture, radical technology, learning exchanges, and the like are degraded into activities for the idle, the unproductive, the very poor, or the very rich.
-
The Amish way.
You read my mind TAJ. They're doing it, right here in the US. That's the amazing part, that they want to and they have been. Otherwise pretty much almost every tribe in Africa and some other third world countries live that way full time. Perhaps out of 'no choice'.
Peace
-
Those beards are a step backwards too I would say. Reminds me of ze mullas.
-
Of course Salim. I'm just sayin' the beards gotta go.
-
Peace Salim
Peace all
The Amish are one example but not useing technology as they belive is also a step backward.
Peace Salim
I don't get it... I thought that's what you were trying to get away from. Since 'technology' is synonymous with being reliant to some organization or the government watching/controlling you? ???