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    nerspi
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    peace

    in 4119 it says
    ...and I will command them so they will make change to God's creation...
    what exactly does this mean? what changes will be made to God's creation?

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      unknownuser
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      I think here the subject of the verb is the "shaytan". It's the "shaytan" who is declaring to God his will to bring about this change.

      Let's read the verses

      They are only calling on females beside God. Indeed, they are only calling on a persistent devil *
      God has cursed him ( ie the devil ); and he ( the devil ) had said "I will take from Your servants a sizeable portion." *
      "And I will misguide them and make them desire, and I will command them, so that they will mark the ears of the livestock, and I will command them so they will make change to God's creation." Whoever takes the devil as a supporter other than God, then he has indeed lost a great loss

      The underlined parts are the words (will) of the devil inside each and every one of us.

      This "change" in God's creation being mentioned seems somewhat ambiguous. Could it be that the devil is the inspiration behind every negative impact/change we make in the Earth and in ourselves?

      A good question...

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        Salaams ,

        Walaodillannahum walaomanniyannahumwalaamurannahum falayubattikunna athana al-anAAamiwalaamurannahum falayughayyirunna khalqa Allahiwaman yattakhithi alshshaytana waliyyan mindooni Allahi faqad khasira khusranan mubeenan

        "I will mislead them, and I will create in them false desires; I will order them to slit the ears of cattle, and to deface the (fair) nature created by Allah." Whoever, forsaking Allah, takes satan for a friend, hath of a surety suffered a loss that is manifest.

        By using Quranic Dictionary (for a number of words)

        "I will mislead them, and I will create in them false desires; I will order them TO HIDE/ CONCEAL ANNOUNCEMENT/PROCLAMATION THE BENEFICENCE / FAVOR TO A PERSON AND I WILL ORDER THEM AND THEY WILL SURELY OTHER THEN MORALITY/ CHARACTER/ NATURE (of) Allah." Whoever, forsaking Allah, takes Satan for a friend, hath of a surety suffered a loss that is manifest.

        As pazuzu said

        the devil is the inspiration behind every negative impact/change

        Gods Blessings.

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          phoenix1
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          peace simple,
          I dont understand that translation. Satan will order us to conceal an announcement to a favor of a person and we will surely other than nature of Allah? i think it needs some editing.

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            Alen
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            peace in 4119 it says
            ...and I will command them so they will make change to God's creation...
            what exactly does this mean? what changes will be made to God's creation?

            Salam.

            "And I will misguide them and make them desire, and I will command them, so that they will mark the ears of the livestock, and I will command them so they will make change to God's creation." Whoever takes the devil as a supporter other than God, then he has indeed lost a great loss.

            They will make change/s - humans do make chnages to God's creation/s people in Hollywood are truly the living proof for this. Actress Goldie Hawn is one of the few actresses who had the most surgery done on her body, well, except on her brain, because you can't drill into skull and change the brain structure.

            Good luck, brother Nerspi.
            Peace.

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              nerspi
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              peace

              pazuzu, i guess devil is inspiring us to make changes but what are those?

              simple, your post wasn't so simple. but the part "...to deface the nature created by Allah". how exactly? destroying the rain forests? using chemical weapons and as a result people become defaced, deformed and disfigured?

              plastic surgery? is that it alen?

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                unknownuser
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                Salaams nerspi,pheonix,

                Sorry i thought it was easy but here we go -how i understand it.

                "I will mislead them, and I will create in them false desires; I will order them TO BE HIDEOUS AND NOT BE KIND/POLITE/BENEFICIENT AND I WILL ORDER THEM AND THEY WILL SURELY GO AGAINST THE VERY NATURE OF ALLAH." Whoever, forsaking Allah, takes Satan for a friend, hath of a surety suffered a loss that is manifest.

                Gods Blessings.

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