bigger challenges to those who uphold the quran(including me)!!!
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peace
I've read some of that, and he has the same arguments that other athiests and faithfreedomers do.
Every description of hell that comes up or everytime the fate of disbelievers is described, they're like "how can god be so evil!?" and then there are the hadithifed translations.
Plus, this "skeptic" has obviously read the quran assuming that it is an evil book. Not trying to honestly understand the book, but show that the few goods are overshadowed by the countless bads. That religious books are BS.
And because of this, all the parables are ignored or ridiculed because they have no idea what the stories are talking about. They are just a bunch of dogmatic stories used to explain the rituals, as they see it.
But having said that, their argument is valid among most people who read the quran and bible. Since that's how most readers view the stories, and the descriptions, etc. Between them, it's just a matter of view point.
The believers say that all of these weird stories and horrific descriptions are good because God said them. The "skeptics" say that either god doesn't exist or god cannot say these things. -
Well-written!!
peace
I've read some of that, and he has the same arguments that other athiests and faithfreedomers do.
Every description of hell that comes up or everytime the fate of disbelievers is described, they're like "how can god be so evil!?" and then there are the hadithifed translations.
Plus, this "skeptic" has obviously read the quran assuming that it is an evil book. Not trying to honestly understand the book, but show that the few goods are overshadowed by the countless bads. That religious books are BS.
And because of this, all the parables are ignored or ridiculed because they have no idea what the stories are talking about. They are just a bunch of dogmatic stories used to explain the rituals, as they see it.
But having said that, their argument is valid among most people who read the quran and bible. Since that's how most readers view the stories, and the descriptions, etc. Between them, it's just a matter of view point.
The believers say that all of these weird stories and horrific descriptions are good because God said them. The "skeptics" say that either god doesn't exist or god cannot say these things. -
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btw guys... wait till you read "The Prophet of Doom"... I eagerly wait your comments on Craig Winn's POD "tafseer" of the Quran.
Any comments from bros Ayman, Tanveer and Layth? I know it is more of a no-brainer but still, an organized front from FM on this matter is necessary IMHO.
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Peace "maxq",
btw guys... wait till you read "The Prophet of Doom"... I eagerly wait your comments on Craig Winn's POD "tafseer" of the Quran.
Any comments from bros Ayman, Tanveer and Layth? I know it is more of a no-brainer but still, an organized front from FM on this matter is necessary IMHO.
JK- Were you influenced by my post of "Craig Winn's" video, or did you post this independant of it, since my post regarding Craig Winn was there before yours? Well anyways like i mentioned in my comments on youtube this guy is sure right about the hadith and the sira(life story of the prophet which is a derivation from hadith). These are indeed full of nonsense and no rational person can doubt this, BUT similarly no rational minded individual can doubt that the OT as well as the NT is full of nonsense, the former being extremely violent just as the hadith and the latter being irrationally generous in some cases like "the turning in the other cheek" and also ofcourse blasphemy. The two, OT and NT, appear as exact opposites. They cannot be logically reconciled by any means. GOD Bless!
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I've been to his site quite a while ago.. I thought this was a good time to post about it. I apologize for the overlap.
Peace "maxq",
JK- Were you influenced by my post of "Craig Winn's" video, or did you post this independant of it, since my post regarding Craig Winn was there before yours? Well anyways like i mentioned in my comments on youtube this guy is sure right about the hadith and the sira(life story of the prophet which is a derivation from hadith). These are indeed full of nonsense and no rational person can doubt this, BUT similarly no rational minded individual can doubt that the OT as well as the NT is full of nonsense, the former being extremely violent just as the hadith and the latter being irrationally generous in some cases like "the turning in the other cheek" and also ofcourse blasphemy. The two, OT and NT, appear as exact opposites. They cannot be logically reconciled by any means. GOD Bless!
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It is nonsense I agree but I just do not understand the reason behind so much hate filled in this guy... it makes me sick.
Layth bro, I was interested in your comments on his "translation" ... he calls the Quran to be the utterance of Satan mind you.
Max,
Is there something specific you want me to look at?
I viewed the site and stopped after reading a few pages of its nonsense.
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Salam Max,
Layth bro, I was interested in your comments on his "translation" ... he calls the Quran to be the utterance of Satan mind you.
Looked through some of it...Nothing that I find worth commenting on as it involves lots of twists and turns to prove what he already believes in the Quran being a book of evil.
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peace
I also checked out that site and it seems this person is blinded from the wisdom of understanding....Only God knows
for example he put up in the contradictions section things like
Noah's family was saved...but His son was not =contradiction
but they did not include the verses talking about that this child was father illicitly therefore there is no contradiction a child fathered illicitly means he is not his son even if he was under the assumption that he was
be careful of being fooled if we stick to the concept of arranging all the verses in thier context and order we will not be confused
you can logically prove anything but that doesnt make it true or rational
Amanda
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personally i found no contradictions whatsoever just a lack of wisdom and insight into what he was reading useless waste of time reallyGod is the only Guide
Amanda
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salaam everyone,
"the prophet of doom"-- the author is an idiot, he appearently translated the quran with his own hands in order to self-serve his mental f**king ego, his hatred of islam. thanks to 9-11(who done it i'm confused, but if it is taliban, they are anything but q'uranic), the world's most peaceful religion and world's most respected people on earth are now criminals. '( '( '(
he didn't unerstand how unhappy god is when when he giveth free stuff to his creation, mankind forgetteth and ignoreth, that is why allah repeats and repeats and repeats and still mankind forgetteth! there is a reason why god is angry to those who cause corruptiopn on earth and cause greif and unhappiness in the vaccum of mankind, his reasoning is illogical since he is blinded by his own hatred towards islam. he truly doesn't understand the intention of quran, as it is a self-claimed beauty, no hadith or any other crap necessary to expand it.
also, the point he made about the quran needing context, is illogical because the quran was designed by god, he knows what you reveal and what you conceal on your chests. therefore, how can he see the true meaning of the quran when he can't remove his F**ing barrier/ego within his chest! people, do you understand or not!
peacenot to those who oppress, but to those who realize what is in themselves,
rifat
