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bigger challenges to those who uphold the quran(including me)!!!

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    phoenix1
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    speak for yourself Elke P

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      Elke
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      salaams phoenix !
      as a very intelligent young man -* u very well know that one can only speak for 1self P
      peace lk

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        phoenix1
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        thank you for the compliment (you too maxq). don't get a lot of those these days.
        it's true, one can only speak for oneself.

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          maxq
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          btw guys... wait till you read "The Prophet of Doom"... I eagerly wait your comments on Craig Winn's POD "tafseer" of the Quran.

          Any comments from bros Ayman, Tanveer and Layth? I know it is more of a no-brainer but still, an organized front from FM on this matter is necessary IMHO.

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            Layth
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            Peace,

            I have not read prophet of doom. If it available on-line, then please share the link.

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              jonny_k
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              Peace "maxq",

              btw guys... wait till you read "The Prophet of Doom"... I eagerly wait your comments on Craig Winn's POD "tafseer" of the Quran.

              Any comments from bros Ayman, Tanveer and Layth? I know it is more of a no-brainer but still, an organized front from FM on this matter is necessary IMHO.

              JK- Were you influenced by my post of "Craig Winn's" video, or did you post this independant of it, since my post regarding Craig Winn was there before yours? Well anyways like i mentioned in my comments on youtube this guy is sure right about the hadith and the sira(life story of the prophet which is a derivation from hadith). These are indeed full of nonsense and no rational person can doubt this, BUT similarly no rational minded individual can doubt that the OT as well as the NT is full of nonsense, the former being extremely violent just as the hadith and the latter being irrationally generous in some cases like "the turning in the other cheek" and also ofcourse blasphemy. The two, OT and NT, appear as exact opposites. They cannot be logically reconciled by any means. GOD Bless!

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                Dion
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                Here it is Layth.

                http//www.prophetofdoom.net

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                  Layth
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                  Max,

                  Is there something specific you want me to look at?

                  I viewed the site and stopped after reading a few pages of its nonsense.

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                    maxq
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                    http//www.prophetofdoom.net

                    Peace,

                    I have not read prophet of doom. If it available on-line, then please share the link.

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                      maxq
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                      I've been to his site quite a while ago.. I thought this was a good time to post about it. I apologize for the overlap.

                      Peace "maxq",

                      JK- Were you influenced by my post of "Craig Winn's" video, or did you post this independant of it, since my post regarding Craig Winn was there before yours? Well anyways like i mentioned in my comments on youtube this guy is sure right about the hadith and the sira(life story of the prophet which is a derivation from hadith). These are indeed full of nonsense and no rational person can doubt this, BUT similarly no rational minded individual can doubt that the OT as well as the NT is full of nonsense, the former being extremely violent just as the hadith and the latter being irrationally generous in some cases like "the turning in the other cheek" and also ofcourse blasphemy. The two, OT and NT, appear as exact opposites. They cannot be logically reconciled by any means. GOD Bless!

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                        Alen
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                        Salam.

                        Don't wanna get off the topic but the biggest challenge we face are the non-believers and their plans taking over.

                        Peace.

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                          maxq
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                          It is nonsense I agree but I just do not understand the reason behind so much hate filled in this guy... it makes me sick.

                          Layth bro, I was interested in your comments on his "translation" ... he calls the Quran to be the utterance of Satan mind you.

                          Max,

                          Is there something specific you want me to look at?

                          I viewed the site and stopped after reading a few pages of its nonsense.

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                            Layth
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                            Salam Max,

                            Layth bro, I was interested in your comments on his "translation" ... he calls the Quran to be the utterance of Satan mind you.

                            Looked through some of it...Nothing that I find worth commenting on as it involves lots of twists and turns to prove what he already believes in the Quran being a book of evil.

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                              unknownuser
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                              peace

                              I also checked out that site and it seems this person is blinded from the wisdom of understanding....Only God knows

                              for example he put up in the contradictions section things like

                              Noah's family was saved...but His son was not =contradiction

                              but they did not include the verses talking about that this child was father illicitly therefore there is no contradiction a child fathered illicitly means he is not his son even if he was under the assumption that he was

                              be careful of being fooled if we stick to the concept of arranging all the verses in thier context and order we will not be confused

                              you can logically prove anything but that doesnt make it true or rational

                              Amanda

                              ps
                              personally i found no contradictions whatsoever just a lack of wisdom and insight into what he was reading useless waste of time really

                              God is the only Guide

                              Amanda

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                                maxq
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                                useless waste of time really
                                Oh that was directed to me? D lol

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                                  mr__humble
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                                  salaam everyone,

                                  "the prophet of doom"-- the author is an idiot, he appearently translated the quran with his own hands in order to self-serve his mental f**king ego, his hatred of islam. thanks to 9-11(who done it i'm confused, but if it is taliban, they are anything but q'uranic), the world's most peaceful religion and world's most respected people on earth are now criminals. '( '( '(

                                  he didn't unerstand how unhappy god is when when he giveth free stuff to his creation, mankind forgetteth and ignoreth, that is why allah repeats and repeats and repeats and still mankind forgetteth! there is a reason why god is angry to those who cause corruptiopn on earth and cause greif and unhappiness in the vaccum of mankind, his reasoning is illogical since he is blinded by his own hatred towards islam. he truly doesn't understand the intention of quran, as it is a self-claimed beauty, no hadith or any other crap necessary to expand it.

                                  also, the point he made about the quran needing context, is illogical because the quran was designed by god, he knows what you reveal and what you conceal on your chests. therefore, how can he see the true meaning of the quran when he can't remove his F**ing barrier/ego within his chest! people, do you understand or not!

                                  peacenot to those who oppress, but to those who realize what is in themselves,
                                  rifat

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                                    IronSky
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                                    Peace to all,

                                    I agree Mr. HUmble, this Winn guy has got a diseased heart it seems, only God knows, but he is not looking at things in the spirit of truth but with hate, though it may be a wast of time, we should still refute him.

                                    Kurt

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                                      unknownuser
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                                      Oh that was directed to me? D lol

                                      pEACE

                                      no not you the website useless waste of time loool

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                                        Lost_Philosopher
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                                        peace
                                        I've read some of that, and he has the same arguments that other athiests and faithfreedomers do.

                                        This might be a little off topic, but what exactly do you mean when you say faithfreedomers?

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                                          Lost_Philosopher
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                                          I went through this site and saw that it has the book of mormon in it. Ill check it out soon. But right now, CHINESE FOOD! ;D

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