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Various clips showing evidence of evolution on the molecular-biological level

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    jonny_k
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    http//www.youtube.com/watch?v=rX_WH1bq5HQ
    http//www.youtube.com/watch?v=SA_UFImmulY
    http//www.youtube.com/watch?v=qKb1LXxKNHY (Ironically though many athsists try to claim that evolution is evidence against GOD, it is the only phenomenon which can logically VALIDATE THE EXISTENCE OF ONE GOD ONLY. Here you see how all living things are derived from just four base substances in the DNA)
    http//www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6_KtvBFOAg (Further silly creationists' claims, especially that microbiological systems are too complex to understand, is hereby debunked. The "god of the gaps" argument by creationists is just silly since He set the constants, for the universe and all the things in it to evolve, at the very beginning and does not need to tweek the system every now and then. This shows how powerful His calculations are. This is what makes Him GOD, the most awesome and not the other nonsense)
    http//www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6_KtvBFOAg
    Will be continued, GW. GOD Bless!

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      http//www.youtube.com/watch?v=rX_WH1bq5HQ
      http//www.youtube.com/watch?v=SA_UFImmulY
      http//www.youtube.com/watch?v=qKb1LXxKNHY (Ironically though many athsists try to claim that evolution is evidence against GOD, it is the only phenomenon which can logically VALIDATE THE EXISTENCE OF ONE GOD ONLY. Here you see how all living things are derived from just four base substances in the DNA)
      http//www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6_KtvBFOAg (Further silly creationists' claims, especially that microbiological systems are too complex to understand, is hereby debunked. The "god of the gaps" argument by creationists is just silly since He set the constants, for the universe and all the things in it to evolve, at the very beginning and does not need to tweek the system every now and then. This shows how powerful His calculations are. This is what makes Him GOD, the most awesome and not the other nonsense)
      http//www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6_KtvBFOAg
      Will be continued, GW. GOD Bless

      What is not being told is that he is working with an algorithm, which is defined as a procedure to solve problems. Usually such algorithms require a target objective function to reach towards a solution. Hence "intelligence" is embedded in the process that is being used to make predictions/test hypotheses. In theory, evolution makes no claim of having a target objective function. The process can go anywhere because it lacks "intelligence". Admitting such a claim would be an admission of a creator so the evolutionists steer clear of making such a claim.

      In the third video notice how the presenter glosses over from micro to macroevolution. As defence, he ridicules biblial creation!

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        Peace "god1quran",

        What is not being told is that he is working with an algorithm, which is defined as a procedure to solve problems. Usually such algorithms require a target objective function to reach towards a solution. Hence "intelligence" is embedded in the process that is being used to make predictions/test hypotheses. In theory, evolution makes no claim of having a target objective function. The process can go anywhere because it lacks "intelligence". Admitting such a claim would be an admission of a creator so the evolutionists steer clear of making such a claim.

        JK- Whether evolution is intelligently guided or not is another point with which i as well as other theistic evolutionists agree. The point is whether evolution is true or not and that in essene has nothing to do with it involving intelligence or nor. And as far as "evolution doesnt know where it goes" is only true from a relative perspective since humans cannot predict the evolutio with high accuracy because there are so many factors involved but ultimately everything is causal and so it was determined. GOD Bless!

        In the third video notice how the presenter glosses over from micro to macroevolution. As defence, he ridicules biblial creation!

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          Peace "god1quran",

          JK- Whether evolution is intelligently guided or not is another point with which i as well as other theistic evolutionists agree. The point is whether evolution is true or not and that in essene has nothing to do with it involving intelligence or nor. And as far as "evolution doesnt know where it goes" is only true from a relative perspective since humans cannot predict the evolutio with high accuracy because there are so many factors involved but ultimately everything is causal and so it was determined. GOD Bless!

          I was merely pointing out that genetic algorithms demonstrating the process of "evolution" have a priori intelligence embedded in and therefore cannot be used as support for the theory of evolution. Evolution assumes directionless natural selection (no target objective function).

          If you claim to be a thiestic evolutionist, kindly tell me (preferably in a new thread) how EXACTLY your beliefs differ from an athiest concerning the theory of evolution.

          peace.

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            Peace "god1quran1",

            I was merely pointing out that genetic algorithms demonstrating the process of "evolution" have a priori intelligence embedded in and therefore cannot be used as support for the theory of evolution. Evolution assumes directionless natural selection (no target objective function).

            JK- Here we go again. The genetic algorithms which you find in the DNA were already planned and set in space at the big bang. It only appeared in a more complex form later on. This is wht ive been trying to tell you all along.

            If you claim to be a thiestic evolutionist, kindly tell me (preferably in a new thread) how EXACTLY your beliefs differ from an athiest concerning the theory of evolution.

            peace.

            JK- I acknlowledge that a Super Intelligence, i.e. GOD fixed all the constants at the big bang so that all the celestial bodies, stars as well as life can evolve over time. Think of a future engineer designing elementary parts which he tosses out on a table at such an angle with an exact speed so that they combine to form marvellous machines over a specified period of time. Now aint that much more marvellous than sdilly creationist piece by piece theory? Do you get it now? GOD Bless!

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              Commander_Sunrider
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              Excellent explanation Johny K. Unfortunately these guys prefer to think of God as an infernal watchmaker. Astaghfirullah!

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