To those who accused me of confusing lust/attraction with love
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Peace,
I did not confuse them love with physical attraction or lust at all and ill give you some personal examples to show this. I love my bros "arnold yasin sun", "andya primanda sun", "lobster sun","James Randi sun sun", "Edip Yuksel sun sun sun sun sun sun sun" and others. Ofcourse the intensity varies towards each person from time to time. However what is perhaps more interesting is that i began to love or rather did love "Howard Stern" at one point. I developed what i interpreted as clear feelings of love for him. Was it supernatural? Was it magic? Is the love for my bros which is still present very strongly something occult or mystical that i dont understand? Ofcourse not. In regards to "howard stern" i was watching a clip of his and suddenly i felt something in my heart, yes right on the spot there. It felt very plesant. It didnt however take me long to figure out why this was so. He was making a statement against paranormal psychic abilities. Now we all know how much they loot people. HStern becoming serious at tht very moment clearly pointed out tht these psychics claaimants are a nuisance and he gave an example as to why. This triggered in my brain all different kinds of memories especially regarding James Randi whom i already love so much. This in turn is so mainly because he exposes those who defraud others which is very much inline with my ideology. Furthermore he uses rational thought and applies the scientific methods consistently which i deduced independently throught eh Quran and otherwise. This was just around the time i had been intensely studying the subject of the debunking of the paranormal and had accepted evolution only recently. Thus it doesnt take much rocket science to note that an intense activity was gonna get triggered within my brain on such a statement made by Howard(and yes this also shows one can fall in love with persons on TV even thought the show aint live or the person aint alive anymore). I must admit though tht my love for Howard faded to a great extent because further viwing of clips made me doubt whether he was all tht honest because of various different reasons beyond the scope here. So you can clealy see that none of this love has got to do anything with lust or mere attraction whatsoever. GOD Bless! -
I love my bros "arnold yasin sun", "andya primanda sun", "lobster sun","James Randi sun sun", "Edip Yuksel
I see some male hs going on here.
Just kidding, of course.
Thank you.
I think that now you are confusing admiration with love. You admire James Randi because of what he does.
You don't love someone because of what they do. Love is unconditional.
Let's take Howard Stern's mother for example. She probably despises what he does, but she probably loves him too. -
Peace bro "lobster",
I see some male hs going on here.
Just kidding, of course.
Thank you.JK- rotfl
I think that now you are confusing admiration with love. You admire James Randi because of what he does.
You don't love someone because of what they do. Love is unconditional.
Let's take Howard Stern's mother for example. She probably despises what he does, but she probably loves him too.JK- Love being unconditional is a very simplistic Christian concept and it is false. The conditions however do not always need to be on the macro level and this is important. A mother loves her child primarily because of the bond between parent and child which all animals have, not just humans. There are many factors to this including the pain during childbirth and that of upbringing during which many things accumulate in the neural network which lead to intensified feelings overtime WHICH RARELY, IF EVER disappear. Though there are examples where mother's kill their own children because they cant stand them anymore. This has happened a lot in Germany and it was in the news all over where a mother choked her own child to death. So once again we see that love is clearly conditional, though not necessarily immediate give and take ones as a simplistic mind would presume.
As for JR i do love him, its not just admiration. I admire alot of other ppl whom i dont considert to be loving. Again the difference btw admiration and love is only a matter of scale. A lot of admiration may lead to love. GOD Bless! -
Peace "Aaron",
does james randi believe in the divine oneness?
JK- I cannot say for sure. He seems to be an agnostic meaning he aint sure or probably would say theres not enough evidence. However i can sense tht he wants to beleive in one GOD but due to all the Christian nonsense too much objection to beleive in even one GOD seems to ahve bilt up in him. But again i cant be sure. GOD Bless!
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Peace bro "alen",
Salam.
Should we define love now?
Why?
Let's just enjoy love, if it encounters in our life.Right?
Peace.
JK- I agree with you one cannot clearly define love since it is an intense feeling when many different emotions come together in different people. But we can define it to the extent of saying tht it is when we as humans experience a pleasure of binding with someone and being ready to sacrifice our own needs for tht person if required. The greater the sacrifice, the greater the love would be. This is a simple definition i use. GOD Bless!
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Peace "Aaron",
do you really know enough about james randi to say that you love him? i mean really... did you hang out? talk on the phone? go see a movie? have dinner? go for a walk on the beach under the moonlight?
JK- Ever heard about love at first sight? GOD Bless!
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Peace "Aaron",
love at first sight over another man hey?
JK- I guess this shows you limiting love to being sexual doesnt it? Well it aint and i dont love aqny of the mentioned men in a sexual way.
i typed a bunch of mean stuff but i think i can let you dig your own grave
JK- Whts the last phrase supposed to mean? GOD Bless!
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JK- I guess this shows you limiting love to being sexual doesnt it? Well it aint and i dont love aqny of the mentioned men in a sexual way.
love at first sight? yeah, i would have to say it's alot more lust than love. you can't really love someone until you know them and they become a part of your life in a deep way... even then, who knows... what the hell is love anyways? got some pseudo science for that one too? maybe some math? ha
JK- Whts the last phrase supposed to mean? GOD Bless!
i typed a bunch of really mean stuff but i decided to erase it before i hit post and just let you dig your own grave... you concentrate way too much on homosexuality, most people would figure you for a closet homo who is trying to fight his deep seated desires. aren't you glad you asked now? ha
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Peace "Aaron",
love at first sight? yeah, i would have to say it's alot more lust than love. you can't really love someone until you know them and they become a part of your life in a deep way... even then, who knows... what the hell is love anyways? got some pseudo science for that one too? maybe some math? ha
JK- Nothing i mentioned was pseudoscience. Infact goto the science section and read the article on love ive posted which contains link where you can read up researched stuff on the subject. As for the first sight love it is possible as certain facial patterns of person's MAY trigger a variety of emotions iwithin someone which he/she then experiences as a feeling of immense pleasure and may term this as love(not everyone understands it the same way as discussed before). Have you ever experienced when you saw a certain pattern in nature, it immediately triggered various memories inside you? It sure happens to everyone at some point or another including myself and this is what may lead to a chain reaction in the neurons also.
i typed a bunch of really mean stuff but i decided to erase it before i hit post and just let you dig your own grave... you concentrate way too much on homosexuality, most people would figure you for a closet homo who is trying to fight his deep seated desires. aren't you glad you asked now? ha
JK- Your problem is your so attached to certain terms which you subconsciously associate with sex that you tend to think that if i use them it means i must be a homosexual. Well in my case im sorry to say ive to disappoint you coz thts not the case since im very much attracted to women. There was a time when i couldve said tht i was attarcted to men BUT there was also a time, and this may seem more bizarre, when i was attracted to dolphins. The human psyche is by nature highly volatile but my over tendency still remains for the human female and i(the part of the neural network which establishes my consciousness) tend(s) to keep it tht way. GOD Bless!
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PEace Be Upon You All
Bro Johnny, James Randi is a self-proclaimed athiest! Does that not bother you at all? I'm not saying that it should bother you. I'm just saying that you need to take that into consideration when you're entertaining his thoughts. He has biases just like the rest of us, only it swings the other way.
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Peace sis "BOOST",
PEace Be Upon You All
Bro Johnny, James Randi is a self-proclaimed athiest! Does that not bother you at all? I'm not saying that it should bother you. I'm just saying that you need to take that into consideration when you're entertaining his thoughts. He has biases just like the rest of us, only it swings the other way.
JK- As far as i know James Randi is an AGNOSTIC not an atheist, meaning that he claims theres not enough evidence to support the existence of GOD but ive not heard him say there cant be or aint any god. And yes even his being agnostic does bother me a bit but not as much as the trinitarian Christians or the hadith Muslims who idolize BESIDES GOD(n thts the only crime GOD states wldnt be forgiven) Jesus and Muhammad respectively. GOD Bless!
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swings the other way
hahahaha how apropos P
JK- Nothing i mentioned was pseudoscience. Infact goto the science section and read the article on love ive posted which contains link where you can read up researched stuff on the subject. As for the first sight love it is possible as certain facial patterns of person's MAY trigger a variety of emotions iwithin someone which he/she then experiences as a feeling of immense pleasure and may term this as love(not everyone understands it the same way as discussed before). Have you ever experienced when you saw a certain pattern in nature, it immediately triggered various memories inside you? It sure happens to everyone at some point or another including myself and this is what may lead to a chain reaction in the neurons also.
first sight attraction maybe... first sight love... i doubt it dude, seriously...
oh facial features eh? is this why some people look like their pets? hahaha
JK- Your problem is your so attached to certain terms which you subconsciously associate with sex that you tend to think that if i use them it means i must be a homosexual. Well in my case im sorry to say ive to disappoint you coz thts not the case since im very much attracted to women. There was a time when i couldve said tht i was attarcted to men BUT there was also a time, and this may seem more bizarre, when i was attracted to dolphins. The human psyche is by nature highly volatile but my over tendency still remains for the human female and i(the part of the neural network which establishes my consciousness) tend(s) to keep it tht way. GOD Bless!
hahaha no you're totally wrong... it's not because you used a term which i subconsciously associate with sex and thus it must mean you are a homosexual... i love some of my friends too, and not in a sexual way... it's the fact that you concentrate way too much on the issue. even going so far as to use and support really shoddy pseudoscientific studies and results
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Peace "aaron",
1st of all i mentioned this as an example because prior to this i had talked about falling in love with a girl just by chatting on which i was accused of just wanting the girl. Now i give a few examples of men and voila im accused of homosexuality. I mean what kinna nonsense is this. Sorry but i dont have any examples of hermaphrodites or neutral sexual ppl whom ive fallen in love with as yet. brickwall
2ndly what the hell is pseudoscientific in this?
http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=14134.0GOD Bless!
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Peace "Aaron",
wow wikipedia... there's some proof
anyways are you done yet? ha
JK- Man, wiki has the links and the references at the bottom to all the various researchers and research institutions. Whenever a statement lacks these it mostly states "citation needed". Wiki is one of the most reliable sources if you know how to use it correctly. Its all there you just have to check it out. Heres some other links too
http//science.howstuffworks.com/love6.htm
http//www.humanthermodynamics.com/RP5-Love-Chemical-Reaction.html
What amazes me though that people still try hard to beleive in magic, the occult and mystic stuff rather than seeking scientific explanations.
GOD Bless!