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Who built the kaaba that is in Mecca?

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    From my POV, the verse 2.144 clearly shows that you must point toward a physical location on Earth. Unless "bayt-al-haram" is not on Earth

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      From my POV, the verse 2.144 clearly shows that you must point toward a physical location on Earth. Unless "bayt-al-haram" is not on Earth

      So, are you turning now towards i? (The verse says wherever you are...)

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        So, are you turning now towards i? (The verse says wherever you are...)

        Wherever you are, "turn" your face towards it.

        Turn Verb - To rotate, act on by increasing angular momentum, etc.

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          Wherever you are, "turn" your face towards it.

          Turn Verb - To rotate, act on by increasing angular momentum, etc.

          So you are rotating your face towards it?

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            Yes, we can have a picture of "it" in our room and turn the face towards "it" whats the problem?

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              Yes, we can have a picture of "it" in our room and turn the face towards "it" whats the problem?

              It doesn't say "toward any old resemblance of the sacred house", but "toward THE sacred house".

              @Samia

              Yes. Wonder what the consensus of the mullahs is pertaining to this topic when we are on a roundabout...

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                It doesn't say "toward any old resemblance of the sacred house", but "toward THE sacred house".

                @Samia

                Yes. Wonder what the consensus of the mullahs is pertaining to this topic when we are on a roundabout...

                You mean "THE sacred house" the one built by Ibrahim?

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                  THE sacred house. Take that as you will. You know who you have to answer to

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                    THE sacred house. Take that as you will. You know who you have to answer to

                    rotfl rotfl rotfl yeah man you are genious ...... yay

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                      SHAKIR And even if you bring to those who have been given the Book every sign they would not follow your qiblah, nor can you be a follower of their qiblah, neither are they the followers of each other's qiblah, and if you follow their desires after the knowledge that has come to you, then you shall most surely be among the unjust.

                      From my POV, the verse 2.144 clearly shows that you must point toward a physical location on Earth. Unless "bayt-al-haram" is not on Earth

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                        You mean everyone should have his own qibla?

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                            what is it?

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                              Left and bottom.

                              Found this to be fitting as to where I am in life

                              The truth is consistent with reality...but is reality what you perceive?

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                                Left and bottom.

                                Found this to be fitting as to where I am in life

                                The truth is consistent with reality...but is reality what you perceive?

                                Yes of course thats why you know its consistent with truth..........

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                                  Nuh-uh!

                                  Where reality does not meet "truth", we find that "reality" is not so!

                                  Take this thread as a prime example.

                                  Let me rephrase - we must break this idiotic notion that what we see is gospel truth and that all else are wrong, and commence a truly objective and unbiased study of "reality", and of course, the Quran. Oh, and the hadith. The last has been done. But that was "the easy bit".

                                  Edit Damn, highly off-topic, apologies, people...

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                                    Nuh-uh!

                                    Where reality does not meet "truth", we find that "reality" is not so!

                                    Take this thread as a prime example.

                                    Let me rephrase - we must break this idiotic notion that what we see is gospel truth and that all else are wrong, and commence a truly objective and unbiased study of "reality", and of course, the Quran. Oh, and the hadith.

                                    no, reality always meet the truth..............when we are unable to understand reality and truth we become confuse........confusion is the result of inability to unerstand truth or reality...........

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                                      no, reality always meet the truth..............when we are unable to understand reality and truth we become confuse........confusion is the result of inability to unerstand truth or reality...........

                                      we find that "reality" is not so!

                                      Catch some sleep, it seems that you, like me, have "late-night blindness syndrome" p

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                                        The truth is consistent with reality

                                        Where reality does not meet "truth"

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                                          In my 400AM stint, I forgot

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