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Is god life itself?

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    IronSky
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    Peace all,

    I agree nerspi, we shouldnt say that which we do not know or need to know.

    Kurt

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      Jack
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      the quran also says

      2558 And put your trust in the Eternal Who does not die, and glorify His praise. It is enough for Him that He is expert in the sins of His servants.

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        agentxxx
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        Peace enquirer,

        Agentxxxi agree a lot with your post,

        Thanks )

        however i dont think god/life is only that which is good,i also think god encompasses that which is bad (relatively speaking.) as otherwise there becomes a duality or god is missing from parts of life/the universe....

        Logically you are right ??But in the matters of belief, there are times when we are faced with questions we can't answer logically, hence we ignore logic and weave an explanation that is best suited for own souls/mind/self to be at peace.

        We have to remember that other may or may not agree with us, because they have to satisfy their own understanding to be at peace with themselves. This is the reason why WE MUST RESPECT all views/beliefs; if we are at peace with ourselves, THEN ONLY can we be at peace with each other and where Peace is the ultimate reward, difference in thoughts/beliefs/concepts shouldn?t matter if we can achieve it through THIS mutual respect for each other.

        I am basically a peace loving/weak hearted person and honestly it hurts me like hell to see people in pain no matter who they are .

        So my concept of God = MERCY+LOVE+FORGIVENESS+JUSTICE+ ALL THE POSITIVE FORCES IN THE UNIVERSE.

        THE GOD OF THE CANNIBALS WILL BE A CANNIBAL.

        However, you are correct in that everyone has their own idea of god, and this can be continually updated with new knowledge

        There are times when I am really skeptical about God i.e. how he operates, about his human like characteristics/attributes. The events like the earthquake in Pakistan that killed thousands of people including children/the tsunami/the drought in Ethiopia / daily killing in Iraq?s etc forces me to reevaluate my concept of God.

        Buddhism Instead of extolling an anthropomorphic creator God, employed negative theology TO AVOID SPECULATION and KEEP THE UNDEFINED as INEFFABLE.

        Buddha believed the MORE IMPORTANT ISSUE was to bring BEINGS OUT OF SUFFERING TO LIBERATION and that is also what the divine code in Quran is all about.

        I think that the essence of every religion/belief is the same TO BRING HUMAN BEINGS OUT OF SUFFERING?.according to my understanding all existing religions/beliefs are symbolic expressions of the same universal religion, the foundation of which is bases on the fundamental 10 commandments.

        The god you describe is a potentially very good role model... bravo

        That is the only God I want to believe in.

        peace

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          nimnimak_11
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          Peace all

          In one of the verses of the Quran, it is said that "God is closer to you than your jugular vein" (QXP)

          In another another verse it says something like (I reccomend you all find the verse and chek it your selves as i am relying on my memory here hence the follwing may not be accurate) "no 2 people in a room without God being there third."

          I believe the Angels are laws such as reflection. In one verse (i think) it is said that "God has assigned the function of angels"

          And if i'm not mistaken somewhere in the bible Jesus says something like "I am in the Father and he is in me"

          I though the above may be useful for the discussion.

          as for me, i believe that God is Unfathomable.

          Hope you all enjoy summer

          Peace,
          Nyma

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            Arnold
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            Try substituting the word life in place of allah/god in the quran or any other religious book.....See what you make of it....
            Serve life,respect life,connect to life....
            Life is instantly and universally recognised.....The proofs for lifes' existence are overwhelming and inumerous....
            Whether you serve life respectfully or not,you cant deny its existence and power....life has always existed and always will in some form or another,life is eternal,life is the judge.....Can you see what im getting at?
            ps; we are all life as well... yay elektro & eat muscle peace sun bravo yay

            Life is not a thing persay. Life is a concept and categorization that we invented that includes existing things and their actions. But life itself is not a diety nor a thing in any way as there really is no such thing as "life", there are only existing things and their actions, and our conceptualizing mind puts those together to create an idea called "life".

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              Arnold
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              "How does one seek union with God?"

              "The harder you seek, the more distance you create
              between Him and you."

              "So what does one do about the distance?"

              "Understand that it isn't there."

              "Does that mean that God and I are one?"

              "Not one.
              Not two."

              "How is that possible?"

              "
              The dancer and the dance,
              the sun and its light,
              the ocean and the wave,
              the singer and his song.

              not one.
              Not two."

              --Anthony DeMello

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                yfn123
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                Hello enquirer,

                Are you still attached to the quran? It seems you are still trying to cling to it. Is it hard to ditch it altogether?

                Anyway, don't take the above seriously. So, what was life before the universe came into being? And if "Life is instantly and universally recognized", then why wasn't the word life in Arabic used? This should have removed all freak-ing gymnastics/manipulation/interpretation of words. Then again, what is life to begin with?

                One more addition If "Life is instantly and universally recognized", then why are abortionists and anti-abortionists arguing so vehemently, sometimes resulting into death!!!

                Anwar Azim

                Try substituting the word life in place of allah/god in the quran or any other religious book.....See what you make of it....
                Serve life,respect life,connect to life....
                Life is instantly and universally recognised.....The proofs for lifes' existence are overwhelming and inumerous....
                Whether you serve life respectfully or not,you cant deny its existence and power....life has always existed and always will in some form or another,life is eternal,life is the judge.....Can you see what im getting at?
                ps; we are all life as well... yay elektro & eat muscle peace sun bravo yay

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                  ayani
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                  peace, enquirer

                  that's a beautiful idea. i would say that i agree with that, to an extent.

                  it is said in the Quran that one who turns away from God is like one lost or dead or unhearing- but to turn to God and seek His face throughout the day is to have spiritual life.

                  we can not divorce spiritual life from our day to day activities as Muslims. i am also reminded of the verses in Acts that say "in God we live and move and have our being".

                  Allah hu alhayy, almuhyi.

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                    jonny_k
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                    Peace all,
                    GOD per the Quran is the Light of the heavens and earth, most likely understood as per modern science as the Higgs Field(see wiki). Ive discussed this in detail at http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=15072.msg146317#msg146317 onwards. GOD Bless!

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                      ayani
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                      this also reminds me of a quote from a book by Viktor Frankl, a holocaust survivor.

                      there was a young woman in the camp who he had become friends with. she was going to die soon, and he asked if she was doing alright. she responded that she felt fine, and happy in spite of everything, and that she sometimes heard a comforting voice from the small chestnut tree blooming outside her barracks. when asked what the tree said, she answered

                      "i am here, i am here. i am life, eternal life".

                      God, there is no god but He, the Living, the Sustainer. 32

                      He is the Living; there is no god except He. So call on Him while devoting the system for Him. Praise be to God, Lord of the worlds. 4065

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                        sirohey
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                        God is life constant .. continuous ..... the rest of creation is finite .. and it can end at anytime and any place by HIS Wish.

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                          Alen
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                          Easy folks. I would like to hear some opinions on the possibility that god is 'life' in all its myriad forms.....To me that is more logical than mere religious 'belief' in an unknowable supernatural entity,which has no real evidence to support its existence...

                          Peace,
                          Respectfully.

                          1. we need to understand what life is.
                            What is life?
                            Is it the heart that we feel, the heart beats, is that life?
                            Is it the Time, because we are circling the sun, is that life?

                          The Exalted God, The Most Powerful, The Creator, has said"Be" and it was, Adam was alive.
                          God has created life, God is not created, He creats death too.
                          What is death? The opposite of life.

                          God has no beginning nor ending, therefore He is living His Own Eternal Existance, Glory be to Him, and creats lesser things - like a life we know and we know very little. We know this life, we know that if our heart is beating, that we are alive. But that will be stopped. So this life of ours is just a moment, a day, stretched into 75 years, give or take, that we experience.

                          Glory be to God.
                          God is One.
                          God is The True Creator.
                          God is The Best Designer.
                          God is Truly Most Merciful.

                          Glory be to our Lord, The One Who will assemble us all.
                          Glory be to our God.
                          God bless you all.
                          Peace.

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                            sirohey
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                            God is life constant .. the rest are given "life" by GOD .. and it will be taken away from them when HE Wishes.

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