Why no female messengers/prophets?
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Peace Be Upon You All
I know God does as He pleases. But why do you think that no women ever get that title? I guess the closest would be Mary but she was just the messenger of a messenger so to speak ... She has a pretty cool title though ... the best of all womenbut still ... anyone have a guess as to why?
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It is balanced women give birth to messengers, men become messengers. Otherwise, men will have no important role to play.
<<women give birth to messengers!>> Is there any role of man in that?
<<Otherwise, men will have no important role to play.>> Can a woman give birth to a child without a man?
Can you see the role of a man now?? ;D
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A woman cannot be a prophet for the obvious reason.
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Mary mother of Jesus rings any bell?
Thanks for correction. So is there any woman other than Mary ;D, who can give birth without a man?
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LOL Good one, Sis Samia! ;D
Bro Yusha, no I don't know the obvious reason or else I wouldn't have asked the question Do you mind explaining please? -
Peace Be Upon You All
I know God does as He pleases. But why do you think that no women ever get that title? I guess the closest would be Mary but she was just the messenger of a messenger so to speak ... She has a pretty cool title though ... the best of all womenbut still ... anyone have a guess as to why?
Male domination......even god is referred to as He.....look at what the male messenger had to go through when they warned their people, so you can well imagine what could have happened to a female messenger if there had been one.
this is just an opinion....I have no other explanation to your question )peace
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Peace Be Upon You Bro Agent
Would that be any worse than what any of the other prophets/messengers went thru?
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Peace Be Upon You All
I know God does as He pleases. But why do you think that no women ever get that title? I guess the closest would be Mary but she was just the messenger of a messenger so to speak ... She has a pretty cool title though ... the best of all womenbut still ... anyone have a guess as to why?
How do we know there were no female messengers? God did not tell us about them all.
I think the description given to Mary is that of messengers. I do not remember the exact verse(s).
Also, how about the queen of Shiba? Didn't she lead her people to believe in God and delivered to them the message of Solomon? -
Male domination......even god is referred to as He.....look at what the male messenger had to go through when they warned their people, so you can well imagine what could have happened to a female messenger if there had been one.
this is just an opinion....I have no other explanation to your questionpeace
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There are powerful queens in the history, and the quran has also mentioned one in the story of Solomon. But I think the reason women cannot be messengers is that they have to give birth to children and thus are unable to perform a full time duty as a prophet.
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How do we know there were no female messengers? God did not tell us about them all.
I think the description given to Mary is that of messengers. I do not remember the exact verse(s).
Also, how about the queen of Shiba? Didn't she lead her people to believe in God and delivered to them the message of Solomon?And We sent not before you (as Messengers) ANY BUT MEN, whom We inspired from among the people of townships. Have they not travelled through the earth and seen what was the end of those who were before them? And verily, the home of the Hereafter is the best for those who fear Allah and obey Him (by abstaining from sins and evil deeds, and by performing righteous good deeds). Do you not then understand? 12109
And We sent not before you (O Muhammad SAW) BUT MEN to whom We inspired, so ask the people of the Reminder if you do not know. And We did not create them (the Messengers, with) bodies that ate not food, nor were they immortals, 217-8
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There are powerful queens in the history, and the quran has also mentioned one in the story of Solomon. But I think the reason women cannot be messengers is that they have to give birth to children and thus are unable to perform a full time duty as a prophet.
Yes!! Imagine a pregnant messenger yay
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Yes!! Imagine a pregnant messenger yay
Yeah, full of fun... yay
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And We sent not before you (as Messengers) ANY BUT MEN, whom We inspired from among the people of townships. Have they not travelled through the earth and seen what was the end of those who were before them? And verily, the home of the Hereafter is the best for those who fear Allah and obey Him (by abstaining from sins and evil deeds, and by performing righteous good deeds). Do you not then understand? 12109
And We sent not before you (O Muhammad SAW) BUT MEN to whom We inspired, so ask the people of the Reminder if you do not know. And We did not create them (the Messengers, with) bodies that ate not food, nor were they immortals, 217-8
I do not think "men" here is in opposition to "women" but to "aliens/jinn/angels" explained later in each verse
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Yea I'm pretty sure Soloman was adamant about crushing her or destroying her kingdom if she does not come submissive. So i think she was a believer but not exactly prophet-hood or messengership status. I could be wrong but i remember reading a verse to that effect.
Also, just for argument's sake ;D I'm assuming if a woman did receive such an important duty she would hold off on child bearing or perhaps God would give her natural birth control for a time ... dunno it still doesn't hold water. Messengers and Prophets were fathers too...
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I do not think "men" here is in opposition to "women" but to "aliens/jinn/angels" explained later in each verse
Yes it can be, but God has never told us any female messenger, there can or cannot be. But I think I agree with you.... handshake
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Peace all,
The word used in 12109 and 217 is "rijaal" which does not always mean "men".
434 The RIJAAL are QAWWAMUN ALA the NISAA by what God preferred/favored some of them over some and for what they spend of their money.
The word for "man" in Classical Arabic is "emri'un", and for woman is "imra'a". In 434 if "rijaal" is translated as "men" and "nisaa" is translated as "women", then what about the women who are the breadwinners, and the men who stay home in a married relationship ?
According to Classical Arabic dictionary, "rijaal" can also mean "those with strength to walk, or those who go on foot", meaning the breadwinners in context of 434 (they go out on foot to work and win bread so that they can provide), and "nisaa" means "those who are late/remaining" implying those who stay.
Thus a better translation would be
434 Breadwinners (irrespective of gender) are responsible/guardian of those who stay (not work) by what God preferred/favoured some of the people (with work, ability to gain) over some (those who stay) and with what they spend.
Now 2228 will make more sense with this translation
2228 ................But the RIJAAL/breadwinners (irrespective of gender) will have a greater responsibility (degree/daraja) over them in this............
Please see the following thread for a discussion on this issue
http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=12037.msg89261#msg89261
Also please see the following article which is convincing for Mary being a prophet
http//free-minds.org/articles/messengers/maryam.htm
The Qur'an clearly indicates that the role and significance of Maryam is equal in status to that of a prophet, and what distinguishes her from prophets is simply that she delivers a messenger rather than a message per se. Prophet Muhammad delivered a "messenger" (the qur'aan); similarly Mary delivered a messenger (Jesus) !
Just because The God has not mentioned a female messenger does not mean there was not any female sent as a messenger ever. There are plenty of messengers that The God has not mentioned.
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Would that be any worse than what any of the other prophets/messengers went thru?
According to my understanding yes especially in a tribal/feudal society, because it challenges the egos of male chauvinism beside the matters of faith.
Joan of Arc the patron saint of France was burned at the stake in 1431.
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