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    unknownuser
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    There is somewhat of a flaw in that reasoning. Just because someone you meet cannot envisage this thing, does not mean that it cannot exist. Technically, that answer only puts the question in limbo - given the question, pretty permanently.

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      Wakas
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      There is only a flaw in the reasoning if I said that that answers/refutes the question. Did I say that?

      All information is correct to the best of my knowledge only and thus should not be taken as a fact. One should always seek knowledge and verify for themselves when possible: 17:36, 20:114, 35:28, 49:6, 58:11.

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        unknownuser
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        There is only a flaw in the reasoning if I said that that answers/refutes the question. Did I say that?

        Implicit. Someone who wants to know isn't seriously going to take that for an answer...

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          Wakas
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          Implicit for some and not for others I'm sure.

          Someone who wants to know isn't seriously going to take that for an answer...

          Conjecture. Seems to have worked pretty well for me in the past thus your above statement is empirically incorrect.

          All information is correct to the best of my knowledge only and thus should not be taken as a fact. One should always seek knowledge and verify for themselves when possible: 17:36, 20:114, 35:28, 49:6, 58:11.

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            unknownuser
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            Implicit for some and not for others I'm sure.

            Conjecture. Seems to have worked pretty well for me in the past thus your above statement is empirically incorrect.

            True. But it's still an open-ended answer. If you get what I mean.

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              Wakas
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              I do get what you mean. It doesn't answer the question as such but it renders it a non-point. Most realise the flaw in the question after discussion so are happy to disregard it / move on.

              All information is correct to the best of my knowledge only and thus should not be taken as a fact. One should always seek knowledge and verify for themselves when possible: 17:36, 20:114, 35:28, 49:6, 58:11.

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                Angel
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                here in south yorkshire we have just had the worst flood EVER!!

                some areas in my town were 6ft deep in water o o

                I hope enquirer is OK

                and we are told that the worst is yet to come &

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                  i thought this was funny rotfl

                  Conspiracy theories pertaining to the 2004 Indian Ocean Tsunami & Pakistan Earthquake

                  After the tsunamis of southeast Asia, a conspiracy theory was suggested by an Egyptian weekly newspaper that claims it was caused by a nuclear test under the ocean conducted jointly by Israel and India. This claim was reported by other newspapers, some commenting on its possibility while others dismissing it.

                  Another type of theory bases its claims on oil and gas interests. Others also reason that the technology is at least feasible if not highly probable since research into such technology has been conducted by the military as far back as World War II. According to declassified files, top-secret "tsunami bomb" experiments utilyzing nuclear explosions to trigger "mini-tidal waves" were conducted off the coast of New Zealand in 1944 and 1945. The U.S. Defense Department had even expressed concern about earthquake-inducing technology in warfare well before the 2004 disaster. In 1997 Defense Secretary William S. Cohen stated, "Others are engaging even in an eco-type of terrorism whereby they can alter the climate, set off earthquakes, volcanoes remotely through the use of electromagnetic waves. So there are plenty of ingenious minds out there that are at work finding ways in which they can wreak terror upon other nations. It's real, and that's the reason why we have to intensify our efforts, and that's why this is so important."

                  http//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_conspiracy_theories#Conspiracy_theories_pertaining_to_the_2004_Indian_Ocean_Tsunami_.26_Pakistan_Earthquake

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                    The nature of the creator / God

                    By virtue of there being GOOD and BAD in the world, it is reasonable to assume that the creator is also both of these. Or is it?

                    By virtue of human beings possessing the ability to LOVE and HATE, it is reasonable to assume that the creator also loves and hates. Or is it?

                    It is most certainly necessary for the creator to comprehend good, bad, love and hate by virtue of the creator having made them! BUT, which of these does the creator advocate, if any?

                    I propose that the creator advocates that which is good and love, because the others do not "work". To put it another way, goodness and love CREATE, but that which is bad and hate, DESTROYS.

                    There is both natural creation and destruction in our world/our universe by scientific necessity. But is this same process present in the "heaven" we hear about in the scriptures? Is heaven, merely another physical location simply so far physically removed from our own universe? Or is it the "spiritual" location most people think of it as?

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                      Jack
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                      Peace,

                      Many people don't understand that for good to exist there HAS to be evil. An example is emotions. Are all emotions bad? No. Would love exist without emotions ? No. The ability to love/be compassionate is through emotions, just like the ability to be angry is through emotions. You take away both, you loose both. Isn't dark just the absence of light? And vice/versa. If there was sunlight all the time, would we be able to know what 'darkness' is? Just like that, If everything was good, we would have no concept of 'evil'; Apart from a boring, robotic world.

                      4312 And He is the One who created all the pairs, and He made for you from the ships and the livestock that which you can ride.

                      133 And He is the One who stretched-out the land, and made in it stabilizers and rivers, and from every fruit He made a pair of two; the night covers the day. In that are signs for a people who will think.

                      These verses aren't limited to gender .

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                        Peace all,
                        What maybe irrational on the macro level could be beneficial on the micro level so we cannot even say something is absolutely irrational. This relativity concept is very important and can mean that what is satanic/irrational in our realm maybe rational and healthy in another. Quantum state theory and the shroedinger's cat concept should be contemplated on. Theres an infinite amount of states in existence simultaneously in the quantum realm. They all have to balance out somehow. Hence there can be no say of absolute good and evil and it is very important to realize this. This thought would clarify all issues regarding the question people often ask themelves as to why "bad" things happen and how is that fair for GOD to do/allow so. GOD Bless!

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