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So i was talking of darwin to some friend

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    unknownuser
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    Peace jonny_k.

    Take a look at this
    http//video.google.de/videoplay?docid=8636972656174056506&q=ken+miller+apes&total=9&start=0&num=10&so=1&type=search&plindex=0
    If this wont convince you, nothing will. It's one of the latest microbiological evidences for evolution. GOD Bless!

    This theory proposes the following?

    1. There was once a common ancestor of humans/apes with 48 chromosomes.
    2. Offspring mutated with pair #2 fused; thus born with 46 chromosomes.
    3. Then this genetically disordered offspring mated with???

    Humans get 23 chromosomes from their mother and 23 from their father.

    If the above events were true; then?

    23 chromosomes paired with 24 of another offspring producing 46 and not 47?

    http//www.mun.ca/biology/desmid/brian/BIOL2250/Week_Two/chronumb.jpg

    Notice donkey and horse are 31 and 32. A mule is the offspring of a mare (female horse) and a jackass (male donkey). The offspring of a male horse (stallion) and a female ass (jenny) is called a hinny. Number of the mule is 63 which are sterile and can?t reproduce.

    Mutations usually lead to deformities in offspring and extermination of species.

    Notice also the same assumptions would make a human related to a potato. ;D

    http//www.animationplayhouse.com/potato.gif

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      Bigmo
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      Peace jonny_k.

      This theory proposes the following?

      1. There was once a common ancestor of humans/apes with 48 chromosomes.
      2. Offspring mutated with pair #2 fused; thus born with 46 chromosomes.
      3. Then this genetically disordered offspring mated with???

      Humans get 23 chromosomes from their mother and 23 from their father.

      If the above events were true; then?

      23 chromosomes paired with 24 of another offspring producing 46 and not 47?

      http//www.mun.ca/biology/desmid/brian/BIOL2250/Week_Two/chronumb.jpg

      Notice donkey and horse are 31 and 32. A mule is the offspring of a mare (female horse) and a jackass (male donkey). The offspring of a male horse (stallion) and a female ass (jenny) is called a hinny. Number of the mule is 63 which are sterile and can?t reproduce.

      Mutations usually lead to deformities in offspring and extermination of species.

      Notice also the same assumptions would make a human related to a potato. ;D

      http//www.animationplayhouse.com/potato.gif

      rotfl

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        unknownuser
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        004.001
        YUSUFALI O mankind! reverence your Guardian-Lord, who created you from a single person, created, of like nature, His mate, and from them twain scattered (like seeds) countless men and women;- reverence Allah, through whom ye demand your mutual (rights), and (reverence) the wombs (That bore you) for Allah ever watches over you.
        PICKTHAL O mankind! Be careful of your duty to your Lord Who created you from a single soul and from it created its mate and from them twain hath spread abroad a multitude of men and women. Be careful of your duty toward Allah in Whom ye claim (your rights) of one another, and toward the wombs (that bare you). Lo! Allah hath been a watcher over you.
        SHAKIR O people! be careful of (your duty to) your Lord, Who created you from a single being and created its mate of the same (kind) and spread from these two, many men and women; and be careful of (your duty to) Allah, by Whom you demand one of another (your rights), and (to) the ties of relationship; surely Allah ever watches over you.

        Keep denying...

        God has power over all things.

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          Yosemite
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          Well, i can't understand these traduction, the enlish in it is strange. What is the "keep denying"?

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            Who created you from a single being and created its mate of the same (kind) and spread from these two, many men and women;

            This implies a common origin.

            You cannot deny that.

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              jonny_k
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              Peace "nun de plume",
              Man you failed to rea,ize tht the fusion occured in the exact same place on the genome where apes have it. What are the chances of tht? Further evidence is tht of enogenous retrovirusus. They are viruses once found and attached as junk DNA in primates and other prior species. We have them at the exact same place as them upto a certain point and then they split off. And these viruses if acquired from surroundings attach at random palces so this is extremely significant. Infact with this we can also tell how far we are from other species inc mammals reptiles plants, etc.
              http//www.talkorigins.org/faqs/comdesc/section4.html#retroviruses
              GOD Bless!

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                Bigmo
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                This implies a common origin.

                You cannot deny that.

                The verse is talking about manking and not all creation or all creation on Earth(Adam ). We are not saying whether evolution occurred or did not, we are saying science does not yet support that and thus far seems to indicate it would have been a miraculous event had it occurred. Science seems to contradict the theory and not support it. Thus evolution can not remain a valid scientific explanation.

                Whether it occurred or did not we really do not know thus its based on faith and not science. We know species seems to have emerged in stages of complexity according to fossil record, yet we have yet to see how they evolved from each other. Science have shown certain hypothesis and predictions had it occurred, but has yet to show HOW could it have occurred.

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                  unknownuser
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                  The verse is talking about manking and not all creation or all creation on Earth(Adam ). We are not saying whether evolution occurred or did not, we are saying science does not yet support that and thus far seems to indicate it would have been a miraculous event had it occurred. Science seems to contradict the theory and not support it. Thus evolution can not remain a valid scientific explanation.

                  Whether it occurred or did not we really do not know thus its based on faith and not science. We know species seems to have emerged in stages of complexity according to fossil record, yet we have yet to see how they evolved from each other. Science have shown certain hypothesis and predictions had it occurred, but has yet to show HOW could it have occurred.

                  Was Adam's wife made FROM Adam?

                  It might be inconsistent but it's the best we have.

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                    Bigmo
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                    Was Adam's wife made FROM Adam?

                    It might be inconsistent but it's the best we have.

                    Yes as far as I know or maybe they were made together..

                    As far as its the best we have, science does not operate that way. The problem with Darwanist is they are putting more beef on the science they have and also not interpreting the results fairly. Then they attack other scientist who do not support their conclusions and try to have them banned and banished from the science community(like Sunni Islam ;D) as the sad case with the recent incident with Iowa State and Guillermo Gonzalez one of the authors of the excellent book "The priveleged Planet".

                    http//www.theconservativevoice.com/article/25570.html

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                      Yes as far as I know or maybe they were made together..

                      As far as its the best we have, science does not operate that way. The problem with Darwanist is they are putting more beef on the science they have and also not interpreting the results fairly. Then they attack other scientist who do not support their conclusions and try to have them banned and banished from the science community(like Sunni Islam ;D) as the sad case with the recent incident with Iowa State and Guillermo Gonzalez one of the authors of the excellent book "The priveleged Planet".

                      http//www.theconservativevoice.com/article/25570.html

                      God operates that way (3901

                      As for Adam and Eve being made together, pay attention to the wording. Is there a Quranic verse that shows this being is Adam? Not from what I've seen.

                      As for Darwinists, it doesn't matter about the messenger, listen to the message and verify it.

                      Evolution can be used to both "prove" and "disprove" God.

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                        arnoldyasin
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                        Evolution can be used to both "prove" and "disprove" God.

                        Not true, as the conditions in the Universe could only create Life, thus meaning this Universe's only outcome could be life. Thus the starting Laws of the Universe were made so to create Life as a result.

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