Serving Allah
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but Allah in her infinite wisdom should not have designed it like that, it can be so bloody inconvenient.
the only thing I know about them is that they are a pain in the ass.
i do give money to charity, most people (i know) do, but the problem is still there.
but I can't provide for MILLIONS of children around the world, if i was a billionair I would yes.
coz she should be serving us.
c'mon its a hardly "a few".
we do and it makes little difference
the verse does not say that.
i'll try
A) Tough. Get more knowledge on this matter.
B) Tough. See A)
C) You think your pittance of money is doing anything? Think again. It's getting cycled right back into the fat wallets of a few. Love usury.
D) Faulty logic.
E) No, it is a few. See A). You are powerless in this, as am I. The most you could do is complain some. This gets you nowhere.
F) No. Humans are not serving God. The majority is powerless in this, which is the reason why "it makes little difference".
G) Read the Quran a bit more, perhaps. You will see that the whole book says that.
H) Yay!
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A lot of these "poor countries" siphon aid wealth into arms, their own banks, etc...
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Oh, I thought you meant general aid...
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Easy genteel. The hypotheses that nature is god is probably one of the few definitions of god that makes sense and can be empirically shown.....And,of course,nature includes us humans and all that exists,known and unknown.....
However,i still cannot see how nature is really a single unified harmonious force,more like a multitude of finite forces partly conflicting,partly harmonious and in constant flux, which could 'metaphorically' be grouped as one and called god/nature...... Would be interesting to discuss this topic in more detail...... -
Easy genteel. The hypotheses that nature is god is probably one of the few definitions of god that makes sense and can be empirically shown.....And,of course,nature includes us humans and all that exists,known and unknown.....
However,i still cannot see how nature is really a single unified harmonious force,more like a multitude of finite forces partly conflicting,partly harmonious and in constant flux, which could 'metaphorically' be grouped as one and called god/nature...... Would be interesting to discuss this topic in more detail......The problem with any concept of God, even the non-existance of God, is that it is unprovable - it is "unseen".
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i still cannot see how nature is really a single unified harmonious force,more like a multitude of finite forces partly conflicting,partly harmonious and in constant flux, which could 'metaphorically' be grouped as one and called god/nature......
We live in one gigantic energy field.
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Thats not true OPF,if god is defined as nature a lot of this 'god' can be seen......
You cannot just take the standard 'religious' definiton of god as 'unseen' and then apply this across the board to subsequent re-definitions or advances in theology....
What came first ,the human definition or the actual reality?
ps; agree angel,but we are energy also,and its a multitude of energy fields.... -
Thats not true OPF,if god is defined as nature a lot of this 'god' can be seen......
You cannot just take the standard 'religious' definiton of god as 'unseen' and then apply this across the board to subsequent re-definitions or advances in theology....
What came first ,the human definition or the actual reality?
ps; agree angel,but we are energy also,and its a multitude of energy fields....Nature doesn't "think", nature is.
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How do you know 'god' thinks? Why would he need to think if he knows everything already? Maybe 'god' just is?
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How do you know 'god' thinks? Why would he need to think if he knows everything already? Maybe 'god' just is?
Indeed.
Do you see yet, why we can't formulate a concept of God?
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Yes,because it is a self defeating supernatural human definition.....Much like a school childs imaginary friend which exists to them,but cannot be proved or disproved totally,but in reality only exists in their own imagination......
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Peace Enquirer,
However,i still cannot see how nature is really a single unified harmonious force,more like a multitude of finite forces partly conflicting,partly harmonious and in constant flux, which could 'metaphorically' be grouped as one and called god/nature...... Would be interesting to discuss this topic in more detail......
I remember watching a show on TV, about a certain forest that was DNA tested by sampling every tree. What they found, was that contrary to what the trees appeared to be on the surface, the whole forest was a single tree.
Perhaps, these forces are not what they appear to be on the surface. Perhaps, they too are one.
Suggested keywords for further research Lignotuber, Mallee.
Nadeem
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Ok Nadeem,but why are we trying to 'force' this 'everything is one' scenario? Just because the quran mentions one 'god' doesnt mean we look to compartmentalise every 'reality' into a unity or one thing.....Surely we should take 'reality' as it is rather than with preconceived notions.....I mean when buddhists say there is no such thing as 'i' or ego,that is disproved by the presence of many different people who all have different thoughts,feelings and identities....If by analogy 'all the trees were one tree' was turned into all humans are one human,then why soo much conflict among this one human?
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Easy genteel. The hypotheses that nature is god is probably one of the few definitions of god that makes sense and can be empirically shown.....And,of course,nature includes us humans and all that exists,known and unknown.....
However,i still cannot see how nature is really a single unified harmonious force,more like a multitude of finite forces partly conflicting,partly harmonious and in constant flux, which could 'metaphorically' be grouped as one and called god/nature...... Would be interesting to discuss this topic in more detail......Dear enquirer,
I believe that multitude of finite forces (as you mentioned) fall within defined lines of nature. These forces may be harmonious or discordant. Anything that happens, happen for good, bad or both, thereby dictating life. Nature/reality simply IS, and yes metaphorically can be convened as god. But isn't god itself a figurative term as imagined, only that it is applied positively by most?
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Dear enquirer,
I believe that multitude of finite forces (as you mentioned) fall within defined lines of nature. These forces may be harmonious or discordant. Anything that happens, happen for good, bad or both, thereby dictating life. Nature/reality simply IS, and yes metaphorically can be convened as god. But isn't god itself a figurative term as imagined, only that it is applied positively by most?
absolutely, just look at the good or positive outcome which is still happening- progressing.
just the human body so advanced in its structure and it took quite a few years to become what it is- positive result on positive result to what is a such an intelligent advanced biologically based self progressing animal and of course the forces which are or have done this cannot be simply random - just look at the human being and the other living organisms in nature.God Bless.
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Mz,whad do you think has happened to the progressive positive design of those born with ' physical defects','mental impairements',terminal painful diseases and such like? Are these designed by a benevolent 'intelligence as well? Why do you doubt that this couldnt happen by random chance,or slow evolution...?
ps; and what has happened to the positive design of serial killers?