Confirmed it was Aisha 24:11-17 accused of misconduct
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Verses added 11+12+13+14+15+16+17=98, concatenate geometric value Aysha, chapter number and total of verses we get = 312 24 98 = 164342 * 19, a number complete multiple of 19. This proves the fact that this person was indeed named Aysha.
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You cannot be serious. For the love of God...
Seriously, I don't think God would use something like gematrical values, they are defined by humans.
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Salaam Samia,
Have you ever wondered who that person is in 2411-17? If you have'nt then you should do because Quran is fully detailed.
Regards
Gramatically, it doesn't need a specific name. Many big lies have been told in the same way as this.
In all the translations I have read, there is no need for proper nouns throughout the Quran. But I can't really say that for the Quran itself because I can't read that yet
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Salaam Truth seeker,
The first person to use the geometrical values was the messenger of the covenant Dr Rashad Khalifa, where he used geometrical value of his name to prove that he was the messenger of the covenant, are you saying that he proved it to be wrong!!
Nothing in this world is done without the say of God, your name, my name, the gv's are all controled by God although it might seem that your mum and dad gave you your name and my my mum and dad gave me my name it is still controlled by God.
Quran is divine institution every letter word and sentence is placed in accordence with the knowhow and application of mathematical miracle of 19.
I have hundreds of example where gv's of messengers and other entities work hand in hand with the mathematical miracle of 19..
To GOD belongs everything in the heavens and everything on earth, and all matters are controlled by GOD.
Regards
Ijaz -X
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Salaam Truth seeker,
The first person to use the geometrical values was the messenger of the covenant Dr Rashad Khalifa, where he used geometrical value of his name to prove that he was the messenger of the covenant, are you saying that he proved it to be wrong!!
Nothing in this world is done without the say of God, your name, my name, the gv's are all controled by God although it might seem that your mum and dad gave you your name and my my mum and dad gave me my name it is still controlled by God.
Quran is divine institution every letter word and sentence is placed in accordence with the knowhow and application of mathematical miracle of 19.
I have hundreds of example where gv's of messengers and other entities work hand in hand with the mathematical miracle of 19..
To GOD belongs everything in the heavens and everything on earth, and all matters are controlled by GOD.
Regards
Ijaz -X
Gematrical values started eons ago.
http//www.themystica.com/mystica/articles/g/gematria.html
Nothing in this world is done without the say of God, your name, my name, the gv's are all controled by God although it might seem that your mum and dad gave you your name and my my mum and dad gave me my name it is still controlled by God.
At any moment, I can change my name. Likewise, the gematrical values. They are not fixed in any way.
I have hundreds of example where gv's of messengers and other entities work hand in hand with the mathematical miracle of 19..
Let's see?
peace
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Salaam OPF,
Gematrical values started eons ago.
http//www.themystica.com/mystica/articles/g/gematria.html
Were these geometric values used the same way as Rashad used in the Quran!!
At any moment, I can change my name. Likewise, the gematrical values. They are not fixed in any way.
So you do not believe that God is control of your destiny, you believe you are?
Thats interesting what kind of believer are you by the way?
Let's see?
I am doing just that displaying my work in this article and response am I getting??
Not very favourable, however, if you stay on this forum you can see more of my work..
Regards
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Salaam Samia,
Have you ever wondered who that person is in 2411-17? If you have'nt then you should do because Quran is fully detailed.
What person? Does the verse speak about a person? confused
Try the name Samia. Maybe it is about me!
I just see this code as a tool to confim the credibility of the hadith. The qur'aan does not need a code. Take it as it is or leave it if you do not believe that it is from God.
And if you really believe what you write, you wouldn't fill in the blanks for the qur'aan.
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Salaam OPF,
Were these geometric values used the same way as Rashad used in the Quran!!
So you do not believe that God is control of your destiny, you believe you are?
Thats interesting what kind of believer are you by the way?
I am doing just that displaying my work in this article and response am I getting??
Not very favourable, however, if you stay on this forum you can see more of my work..
Regards
It does not matter about the way they were used (they are used to "verify" the bible), the fact is that humans assigned the values to those letters, not God.
As for God being in control of my destiny, I think the Quran makes it clear that if you go astray, you go astray to your own loss - God isn't involved.
"Thats interesting what kind of believer are you by the way?"
Pastafarian.
"I am doing just that displaying my work in this article and response am I getting??"
But if it's like this, it is dubious. Why concatenation? Why did you add together the verses then concatenate? Why not concatenate each verse or add everything together?
You can find multiples of anything if you keep changing your method every time.
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Salam,
I think that God almighty likely could have choose to explain Quran through numbers(geometrics) value etc.
I mean we use numbers to count the days and months and years and so on and Quran declares that it is for people who will take heed.
And it says also that Quran is a numerologic book and I think that's not just because of the verses and surahs but also that further explanations lays in chambers of deeper thoughts and mathematic is in my opinion deeper thoughts.
So I guess we shouldn't laugh at Br Iljaz instead try to grasp something ourself.
Maria
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Salam,
So I guess we shouldn't laugh at Br Iljaz instead try to grasp something ourself.Uh, I was pointing out the way that he said it PROVED that it was FACT. Seriously...
There may be a 19 code, and there is from what I've seen, but retrofitting your own thoughts into it will corrupt it.
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Salaam Maria,
So I guess we shouldn't laugh at Br Iljaz instead try to grasp something ourself.
Maria
Thank you Maria for nice comments, as long as believers like you are here there is hope.
As you know it is a Quranic fact that there are very few (true) believers;The Majority of People Do Not Believe
Most people, no matter what you do, will not believe.
You are not asking them for any money; you simply deliver this reminder for all the people.
So many proofs in the heavens and the earth are given to them, but they pass by them, heedlessly!
The Majority of Believers Destined for Hell
The majority of those who believe in GOD do not do so without committing idol worship.
Have they guaranteed that an overwhelming retribution from GOD will not strike them, or the Hour will not come to them suddenly, when they least expect it?
Say, "This is my path I invite to GOD, on the basis of a clear proof, and so do those who follow me. GOD be glorified. I am not an idol worshiper."
We did not send before you except men whom we inspired, chosen from the people of various communities. Did they not roam the earth and see the consequences for those before them? The abode of the Hereafter is far better for those who lead a righteous life. Would you then understand?
Victory, Ultimately, Belongs to the Believers
Just when the messengers despair, and think that they had been rejected, our victory comes to them. We then save whomever we choose, while our retribution for the guilty people is unavoidable.
Regards
Ijaz
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How exactly do you know you are one of the "true believers"?
Why do people throw around these verses as if they have the authority to judge? Everyone is guilty of it.
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Salam Br Ijaz,
Your welcome!
The reasons why I think Quran likely could be based on numerology is that I was myself amazed what numbers can revail when I ordered a numerology readings based on my full birth name.
It was really me in a nutshell, really cool and therefore I'm not surprised that the letters of Quran could revail similiar informations and explanations, yeah why not!
Maria
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Salam bro Ijaz,
It is quite interesting what you are doing and I hope that you continue with the mathematical work because a lot of others cannot do what you are doing, we all see the quran differently. Some of us look at it linguistically, others look at science and logic in it, some see it as all metaphors, I look at it thematically and cross-reference values and see how it gives us a psychologically healthy life. There are many ways to understand it and make sense of it.
But in the end if we have understood it correctly we would realise that everything in it works to give us a peaceful life on earth and the afterlife.
Keep up the research. handshake
Peace sun
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Salaam Peaceforlife,
Thank you very much for the nice post!! And thank you for agreeing that I should continue with my research!!
It is a new way of looking at Quran the way you sugested, different people having different concept of Quran, I suppose you are correct to certain extent. However, the most important aspect of this would be that we could share these different understandings without malice and with open mind, like you have done.
Also if one has to criticise then it really should be positive criticisim, not an attack. The mathematical miracle of ninteen indeed tells us what it is for 7431 explains many things including the believers will rejoice and augment their belief by it and the purpose I use it for mainly is to remove any traces of doubt in the Quran.
I would suggest any one to take it aboard and use the methods I have used to understand the Quran better. As long as one is sincere the code should work Inshalla!!
Kind Regards
Ijaz