How do you pray?
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I pray 3 times a day. Once in the morning until the sunrises. One when I come home after work until the sunsets. Then at night time after eating etc. I bow and prostate, but mostly I am standing. I also do not say the Muhammad part but I still believe he is a prophet.
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Peace all
in the five proposals i could have voted for n? 2, 3 and 4. This is why i didn't vote ;D
If i did what i think would be right for me, i would regularly pray/meditate twice a day.
And i'll get around to it again inchallah.
Before, for around 15 years, i used to pray the traditional way, 5 times, without mentioning any prophets though.elke
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Please take the time to vote. I myself vote physically by bowing and prostrating, but I dont say the Mohhamd part in my prayers, though I believe he is the Prophet of God. I also believe we should pray 5 times a day.
What do you think?
KurtSalam.
Same here, brother.
But i pray 3 times a day.
Well, i pray more because i can and have the time and said would do so, if i had more time, so i have to do what i said but maybe we should first read The Quran and see how many prayers are mentioned by bname and how many prayers did The Exalted God Most Wise ordered us to pray.Remember, The Exalted God never runs out of words.
If The Exalted God The Creator of the worlds and the universe, wanted to say something, He would.I believe that the right question is where in The Quran are there 5 prayers?
I saw pray before sunrise, after sunset and during night times. Brother Tanveer and i have also spoken about it and he sent me an article about praying just twice, i think, and i'm still doing a big research on it because i don't wanna follow brother Tanveer and i don't, i follow The Quran but brother Tanveer has some interesting stuff.
Bro Tanveer, hope we get in touch, haven't heard from you in a while.
Peace.
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Peace bro Alen, all,
I saw pray before sunrise, after sunset and during night times.
The Qur'aanic night starts after sunset, so after sunset = during night.
You are separating "after sunset" and "during night", whereas they are the same thing.
Brother Tanveer and i have also spoken about it and he sent me an article about praying just twice, i think, and i'm still doing a big research on it because i don't wanna follow brother Tanveer and i don't, i follow The Quran but brother Tanveer has some interesting stuff.
Of course everyone should follow The God's signs. I just share my understanding of His signs. Everyone should do their own research, and verify and confirm from His signs and form their own understanding while asking The God for guidance; only He guides.
Bro Tanveer, hope we get in touch, haven't heard from you in a while.
I am just going through some worldly difficulties which will resolve soon insha Allah, and then we will get in touch insha Allah. I have definite plans to travel all over and meet as many God alone muslims as possible in person in the future, God willing.
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Peace all,
I try to establish salaat/connection at dawn and dusk as follows
I perform the ablution according to 56. Then I stand facing any random direction with "the inviolable institution of obedience of The God"/"al-masjid al-haraam" (The God's obedience) as my mental target (qibla). Then I start in the name of The God and say some words remembering, praising, and glorifying (RPG) The God. Then I recite (with understanding) the seven signs from the first chapter of the Qur'aan. Then I recite (with understanding) from sign 17111 up to "wazzulli", obviously without saying "waqul" at the beginning of that sign or "wakabbirhu takbeera" at the end of that sign.
Then I magnify The God and sit in the kneeling position and RPG (remember, praise, glorify) The God. Then I magnify The God and perform "sujood" on the chin once. Then I magnify The God and stand up for the second unit which I perform the same way as the first unit up to the kneeling position. In the second unit, I sit in the kneeling position (before "sujood" and RPG The God and then pray to The God using some signs of the Qur'aan. Then while in the same position, I read and study few signs from the Qur'aan while holding the Qur'aan (with translation) in my hand. Then I say "alhamdulillahi rabbil3aalameen" and end the salaat with "sujood" on the chin once.
Some things can be varied from the above, for example, one can read and study signs of the Qur'aan while in the standing position instead of the kneeling position, and in both units instead of only in one unit etc.
In my understanding, establishing salaat (aqeemus-salaat) has both mental and physical components according to the Qur'aan, with mental components being more important. For my understanding about some aspects of establishing salaat according to the Qur'aan, please see the following discussions
http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=12074.0 (general)
http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=13595.0 (number of salaat)
http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=14283.0 (number of salaat)
http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=13496.0 (salaat and ruku)
http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=12990.0 (salaat is for all muslims)
http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=14151.msg125700#msg125700 (general)
http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=14094.msg132485#msg132485 (the "qibla" issue)
http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=12981.msg106612#msg106612 (units in salaat)
http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=14080.msg123925#msg123925 ("yawm al-jum3a" and the call)
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Peace,
I have move back to perform salat as the traditionalists but not adding the Mohmd parts. and I don't recite verses beginning with Qul as that would be strange to say when it's God I contact.
I perform salat mostly 2 times a day at dawn and dusk that's how I see it.
I think the confusion about another night prayer has occurred of misunderstanding of that the prophet Himself used to meditate during night.
Maria
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Peace,
I have move back to perform salat as the traditionalists but not adding the Mohmd parts. and I don't recite verses beginning with Qul as that would be strange to say when it's God I contact.
THREE SALAT AUTHORISED IN THE QURAN
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The prayers mentioned BY NAME in the Quran are three
1- Salat Al-Fajr (Dawn Prayer)2458
2- Salat Al-Esha (Night Prayer)2458
3- Al-Salat Al-Wusta (The Middle Prayer) 2238.
The following points all confirm that there are only three Salat authorised by God in the Quran
FIRST
God tells us that the Quran contains all the details (6114) and that nothing has been left out of the book (63.
If this is the case, and more important, IF WE BELIEVE GOD 100%, then we have to ask why are the names of the other two salat not mentioned in the Quran?
The reply to this can be one of the following
1- God forgot to mention the other two! (this option is obviously false, because God does NOT forget).
2- The Quran does not contain all the details (this is also false because God tells us in 6114 that it does).
3- God did not mention the names of the other 2 salat because they are not important . This is also a false option, if they were not important then they would not be compulsory, as a result to claim that there are 5 compulsory prayers becomes a false claim.
4- God did not mention the names of the other 2 prayers because God wants us to guess them !!! Once again this is false, the Quran is not a book of puzzles.
5- God does not mention the names of the other 2 salat because God wants us to uphold our inherited rituals as a second source of law besides the Quran! Once again this assumption is incorrect since it is in violation of 6114, 73 and 548. For all the details please go to Millat Ibraheem
6- God does not mention the names of the other 2 prayers, because THERE IS NO OTHER 2 PRAYERS according to the law of the Quran.
THE GENUINE BELIEVERS WILL NOT ACCEPT
ANY OPTION OTHER THAN NUMBER 6
SECOND
Let us read 11114 where the misunderstanding occurred
"You shall observe the Salat (Contact Prayers) at the ends of the day, and zulufann min al-layl."11114
There has been a number of interpretations of the words 'zulufann min al-layl' the ones that are most used are (part of the night) or (during the night) or (some part of the night).
However, none of these interpretations is accurate or in line with the Quranic use of the word 'zulufan' as will be shown shortly.
Traditionally, this verse has been interpreted to mean (you shall observe the prayers at both ends of the day AND part of the night) ?.. as a result, the verse was interpreted to be speaking about two Salat at the end of the day PLUS an additional salat during the night, a total of 3 salat. Those with this interpretation give these 3 Salat the names of Salat Al-Fajr (Dawn Prayer, which is mentioned by name in the Quran), Salat Al-Maghrib (not mentioned by name in the Quran), plus Salat Al-Esha (Night prayer, which is mentioned in the Quran by name but with a different time range).
Others have interpreted this verse to be speaking about Salat Al-Fajr (mentioned in the Quarn) and Salat al-Asr (not mentioned in the Quran) plus salat Al-Maghrib (not mentioned in the Quran by name).
All these interpretations rely on names and times of Salat that not authorised in the Quran. The whole mis-understanding is due to the fact that they have failed to accept that this verse (11114) in actual fact speaks of TWO Salat and NOT three. This will be apparent once we establish the true meaning of key words in 11114.
The root of the word 'zulufann' is 'Zulfa'. This word is used in the Quran to mean near or adjacent
" ..... Those who set up idols beside Him say, "We idolize them only to bring us 'zulfa' (near/close) to God ...." 393
As a result, the phrase 'zulufann min al-layl' means the near/adjacent part of the night. The obvious question is near to what? Nothing can be described as 'near' in absolute terms, the word near can only have a meaning when we have a reference point to which this thing is near to. So now we have to read 11114 again and see what does God mean by near, near to what? The only other reference points given in 11114 are the two ends of the day (sunrise and sunset). Also note that the word which is used in 11114 is 'zulufann', this is a plural form of 'zulfa', thus the words 'zulufann min al-layl' speak of the parts of the night (plural) that are adjacent to the two ends of the day (sunrise and sunset).
The adjacent parts of the night (to sunrise and sunset) are the two 'parts' of the night, the part before sunrise, and the part after sunset (note that anytime before sunrise and after sunset is defined as night in Quranic terminology).
As a result it becomes apparent that God is giving us in 11114 the range of two salat. The range for the two salat are the parts of the night that are just before sunrise and immediately after sunset.
Perhaps the word "wa" (which means AND) and which is placed before the phrase 'zulufann min al-layl' in 11114 contributed largely to the mis-interpretation of this verse. Many have understood the word 'and' to mean (and an additional Salat), however, the word 'and' simply links the two ends of the day with their adjacent parts of the night to give the time range of the two salat. This is not any different than the following example
If your doctor tells you You can only have your medicine at miday AND for the following few hours.
What does this mean? Does this mean that you must take the medicine at miday and then take it AGAIN for a few hours after that? or does it simply mean that the time you can take the medicine is anytime between miday and the few hours after that?
Similarly, if God tells us to observe the Salat at the ends of the day 'and' for the adjacent hours of the night, it is the same thing. The word 'and' in 11114 does not indicate an additional third prayer.
With reason, it can be proved that this is the ONLY logical explanation of this verse
1- A command to observe the salat at the two ends of the day (without the inclusion of the phrase 'zulufann min al-layl', does not provide us with any indication as to when exactly these two Salat are to be observed. This is because the ends of the day are mere points in time that are no longer than a minute each. Surely God does not expect all believers to observe the salat only during the few seconds that it takes the sun to rise or set? It is only with the addition of the words "zulufan min al-layl" in the same verse that the command indicates a time range when these two salat should be observed.
2- To get round this tricky situation some have claimed that we can observe the Salat around the two points and not only during the actual sunrise/sunset, but this is equally unacceptable. This interpretation gives rise to a new valid question Does this mean that we may observe the Salat anytime before or after sunrise/sunset? Is it only before sunrise/sunset? Is it only after sunrise/sunset? It is obvious that we would be left without any clues as to when exactly to observe these two Salat unless we accept the further clarification given by the phrase 'zulufann min al-layl'. This phrase confirms that it is the night side of the sunrise and sunset that the salat may be observed.
The two Salat at the ends of the day that are spoken of in 11114 are given specific names in the Quran. They are Salat Al-Fajr (Dawn Prayer) and Salat Al-Esha (Night Prayer).
THIRD
Now we come to the third Salat mentioned in the Quran, which is Al-Salat Al-Wusta (223.
The word Wusta is the adjective of the word Wasat which means middle, therefore the words Al-Salat Al-Wusta mean 'The Middle Prayer'. Moreover, the notion of a 'Middle' prayer indicates that the number of prayers is an odd number. Consequently, the Salat Al-Wusta is a prayer that lies half way between the two prayers at the two ends of the day. In astronomical terms this Salat is due exactly at the middle of the day, i.e. when the sun has travelled half its distance in the sky.
In 2238 we read the words 'hafezu ala al-salawaat', which mean (you shall persevere with your prayers). The word 'Salawaat' is plural and speaks of more than two prayers. If they were only two prayers the word used would have been 'Al-Salatayn' (the two prayers). Moreover, if God was speaking about the concept of prayer in general, and without referring to the number of individual salat, the words used would have been "hafezu ala al-salat" as we read in many other verse.
The Salat Al-Wusta can be observed from the moment the sun begins its descend from its highest point (duluk al shams) until the darkness of the night (ghasaq al-layl) starts, which is at sunset
"You shall observe the Salat (Contact Prayer) from when the sun declines from its highest point up till the 'ghasaq al-layl' (the darkness of the night)." 1778
P.S. The darkness of the night starts to set in at sunset. And that is when the Salat Al-Wusta ends.
FOURTH
God tells us that the time of each prayer is precisely appointed "kitaban mawqootan" 4103. The word "kitaban" which means BOOK refers to the Quran, or to 'that which is written'. The deliberate use of this word by God confirms to us that the precise appointed time for each of the prayers is given in the Quran. Once again this conforms to the fact that the Quran contains all the details.
Now let us assume that the total number of prayers every day is five, then where in the Quran do we find the appointed time for the claimed 'Salat Al-Asr' (afternoon prayer)? When does it start? Similarly, when does the fagr prayer start? When does the claimed 'Maghrib' (sunset) prayer end? (remember if we accept that there are 5 prayers in the Quran, then we cannot interpret the phrase 'zulufann min al-layl' to indicate a time span, but to indicate an additional salat).
It is a known fact that non of the advocates of the five prayers is able to give any Quranic reference for the time spans of all five prayers.
The five prayer interpretation cannot be substantiated by using Quranic evidence.
But if we accept the Quranic truth about the three salat, and accept that the phrase 'zulufann min al-layl' gives the time span for the two prayers at sunrise and sunset, then the times of all three prayers are precisely given in the Quran.
The time for three prayers would thus be as follows
THE FAGR (DAWN) PRAYER
This prayer starts when the first thin ray of light is observed in the sky. God gives us the explanation to this when "the white thread of light becomes distinguishable from the dark thread of night at dawn." 2187
The time for the dawn prayer is also given in the Quran with the words
" ??.. and at dawn as the stars fade away." 5249
This poetic description of the time for the dawn prayer in 5249 is very accurate scientifically. The stars start to fade out when the first rays of light appear in the sky, and they are completely gone with sunrise.
The Dawn prayer ends at the first 'taraf' (terminal) of the day which is sunrise (11114).
Consequently, the phrase 'zulufann min al-layl' which translates to (the adjacent or near hours of the night) give us a very accurate description of the time for the Fajr (Dawn) payer. The Fagr prayer can be observed during the last hour or so of the night when there is light in the sky. This hour/s are still part of the night, this is because day does not begin until the sun rises.
THE ESHA (NIGHT) PRAYER
The night prayer is identical to the dawn prayer but at the other end of the day (Sunset). This prayer starts at the second 'taraf' (terminal) of the day which is sunset, and lasts for the adjacent night hour/s when the light has not disappeared completely from the sky. The prayer ends when the light has totally disappeared from the night sky.
THE WUSTA (MIDDLE) PRAYER
The middle or 'Wusta' prayer starts when the sun starts to decline from its highest point in the sky (dulook al-shams) and ends when the darkness of the night starts to set in (sunset).
FIFTH
Now let us look at one more verse that also sheds light on the number of prayers in the day
"O you who believe, when the Salat is announced on Friday, you shall hasten to the commemoration of God, and drop all business. This is better for you, if you only knew.
Once the prayer is completed, you may spread through the land to seek God's bounties, and continue to remember God frequently, that you may succeed." 629-10
The words 'drop all business' and also the words 'Once the prayer is completed, you may spread through the land to seek God's bounties' indicate that this prayer is in the day hours. The reasoning behind this is that since no one is likely to be engaged in their business and have to drop it in the early hours before sunrise, means that this prayer is not the Fajr prayer. Similarly it cannot be the Esha prayer since God says that after the Friday prayer the believers may continue with their business, no one is likely to be continuing working in the late hours of the night.
Consequently, if this Salat is not the Fajr prayer nor the Esha prayer, this leaves the Salat Al-Wusta. Once again this is strong indication that there are only 3 and not 5.
The reason is simple
Suppose there are 5 Salat, we know that the Friday prayer is during the day (not night), this means that (in a 5 prayer format) it could be the noon (Zuhr) prayer, or it can be the afternoon (Asr) prayer ??
Which one would it be? If we accept that the Quran contains all the details (6114), and that the Quran provides explanations for everything (1689), we would ultimately accept that God would not leave us to guess which prayer in the day is the Friday prayer.
However, if we accept that there are only 3 prayers in a day, then the Jumah Salat (Friday Prayer) cannot be other than the Middle Prayer.
SIXTH
As we have seen, apart from the Salat Al-Wusta, the only other prayers mentioned in the Quran by name are the Fajr and Esha prayers. These are the two Salat at the ends of the day (sunrise and sunset). The Middle Prayer (Salat Al-Wusta) must be one that is at the middle between the two ends of the day.
Those who insist that there are 5 prayers in the day, believe that the Salat Al-Wusta is the Asr Prayer. However, the time of Asr is NOT the middle of the day, the middle of the day is exactly at duluk al-shams (when the sun starts to decline from its highest point) that is because the sun would have travelled exactly half the distance in the sky and beginning its descent, it is thus exactly half the day (nahar).
As a result, the Salat Al-Wusta gets its name as a result of it being exactly half way between the two Tarafai Al-Nahar (sunrise and sunset). The Salat Al-Wusta starts at 'duluk al-shams' and ends at sunset.
SEVENTH
If we look at verse 2458 one more time, we note that God speaks of 2 Salats (Fajr and Esha ), but only speaks of the TIME of Zahira (zohr). Is it a coincidence that God did not say when you change your clothes after Salat Al-Zahira/Zohr, but only said the TIME of zahira? If there is a Salat called Salat Al-Zohr (as the advocates of the 5 prayers claim), wouldn't we expect to see the words 'after Salat Al-Zahira/Zohr' just like God mentions Salat Al-Fajr and Salat Al-Esha in the same verse?
EIGTH
In the old days, people did not have printed lists of times of prayers and astronomical calculations, etc. They could not do like we do now, turn on the radio or TV or buy a Prayer Timetable. However, God must have given a means to determine the times of prayers even for those early communities (before the Quran) who did not have the facilities we have today. God must have given them a NATURAL means of determining the times of the prayers.
Today for example, there is no way for the followers of the 5 Salat to know when does 'Salat Al-Asr' starts except through looking at those astronomical tables and lists.
However, with the correct 3 prayer format, we do not need any of these tables. We do not need Prayer Timetable (Imsakeyah).
As long as there is any light in the sky (before sunrise and after sunset) we know it is the time for Fagr and Esha respectively.
With the Salat Al-Wusta it is also very easy. When we see no shadow below us when we stand, we know that this is when the sun is highest in the sky. When we start to see the smallest shadow, this is the beginning of the salat al-wusta, it ends when the sun sets.
It cannot be easier! alhamd l'Allah, God has made it so easy for us.
NINTH
Finally we come to the issue of how many Raka to be observed in each Salat.
The cycle of standing, bowing and prostrating while praising and glorifying God is traditionally called a Raka. According to the Quranic law, God did not specify any specific number of Raka to be observed in the Salat, thus it is left to the individual.
The advocates of the 5 prayers claim that the number of Raka to be observed during each of the 5 prayers is 24434 respectively.
To start, and since there are only three Salat decreed by God for the believers, then this 5-prayer format is false. Where it came from? Probably like all the corruption we inherited in our rituals, they all have routes in the books of hadith (Bukhari, Muslim and others).
The advocates of the 5 prayer format have worked out some calculations based on the Quranic code 19 to claim that this 24434 format has been preserved since Abraham.
These calculations have been proved non significant and cannot be considered in any way as divine signs. For more details on this matter, please go to the following file
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The code 19 and the 24434 format
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Some other scholars have claimed that the minimum number of Raka during any prayer must be two. They base their claim on the concession to shorten the Salat at times of war (4101). They state that if we are given indication to shorten the Salat, then it must be at least two Raka, that is because it is not feasible to shorten the Salat if it were made of just one Raka!
The error in this interpretation is that it is based on the number of Raka and not on the time consumed in our Salat. Since the Quran speaks of standing, bowing and prostration without any time or frequency restrictions, then we may spend the time we wish in any of these positions. In other words, one can spend one minute in the standing position or ten minutes. One could read the Al-Fatiha (The Key) once or ten times. Equally one may praise God during prostration three times or 20 times. One could prostrate once or five times .... etc.
If we add the fact that different people excercise different speeds in uttering their prayers, then we are once again compelled to accept that shortening the salat is related to the overall time we give to the Salat and not to the number of Raka. For example, one Raka could be completed in 2 minutes or 20 minutes.
The concession to shorten the Salat given in 4101 is thus a time related one. God is telling us if you normally spend (as an example) 10 minutes in your Salat, you may spend 2 or 3 minutes when you are at war.
It is more logical to think that at times of war when we are in danger of the enemy, that we minimize the TIME we are at risk rather than minimize the number of Raka. After all, the concept of Raka is a relative one as shown, and one Raka can be conducted by two different people in totally different times, thus person A may do 3 raka's in the same time that person B has done 5 or 6. But if we accept that the concession in 4101 to be TIME related then the shortening of the Salat would affect all believers symmetrically.
Moreover, this interpretation, which is TIME related, is more logical since it is not based on assumptions that do not exist in the Quran ..... The assumption of a minimum number of Raka is not in the Quran, plus ofcourse, the whole concept of a Raka (made of one standing, one bowing and the traditional two prostrations) is not in the Quran. The Quran speaks of the 3 positions in a specific order but there are no restrictions on the frequency of each. The majority of Muslims prostrate twice in every Raka. The Quran does not specify once or twice or more, hence who is to say that one who prostrates five or six times is in violation of any Quranic command
All the words of the Salat should be from the Quran.
1- "You shall recite what is revealed to you of your Lord's Scripture (the Quran). Nothing shall abrogate His words, and you shall not find any other source beside it." 1827
Since this verse does not specify any one activity, it is understood to cover the Salat as well as normal recitation.
2- "You shall recite what is revealed to you of the Scripture (the Quran), and observe the Salat (Contact Prayers)." 2945
This verse specifically links reading from the Quran with the Salat. Consequently, nothing should be read in the Salat that is derived from other than the Quran.
3- "They are not all the same; among the followers of the scripture there are those who are righteous. They recite God's revelations through the night while prostrating." 3113
This verse speaks of the righteous, they recite the scripture while prostrating. Since prostrating is one of the acts of Salat, the point is made again about reciting the scripture (in our case the Quran) in our Salat.
SECOND Specific words to be recited during the Salat.
1- Opening words of the Salat Whenever we read the Quran we are to seek refuge in God from the devil
"When you read the Quran, you shall seek refuge in God from Satan the rejected." 1698
The Arabic words are "A'uzu b'Allah min Al-Shaytan Al-Rajeem". And since all the Salat is comprised of Quranic words, thus we must utter these words to start our Salat.
2- Although there is no specific command to read the Key (Fatihah) in particular in the salat, yet since it is the opening of the book and it comprises a call to Allah in all its words, then it is appropriate to read it in the opening of our Salat.
Bearing in mind that God informs us that He does not wish us any hardship in practicing our religion, thus it is sensible to read the relatively longer passages (such as the Key) in the standing position rather than the bowing or prostrating so that the ill and old would not over-burden their frail bodies. Consequently, the recitation of the Key (Al-Fatiha) in the standing position is what all Muslims do.
3- The phrase 'Allahu Akbar' is uttered frequently during Salat in compliance with God's command to magnify Him as in 2185 and 17111.
4- 'Sobhan Rabi Al-Azeem' (Praise my Lord the Great). This is in compliance with "You shall glorify the name of your Lord, the Great" 5674. These words of praise are usually spoken in the bowing position as many times as desired.
5- 'Sobhan Rabi Al-Aala' (Praise my Lord the Most High). This is in compliance with "Glorify the name of your Lord, the Most High" 871. These words of praise are usually spoken in the prostrating position as many times as desired.
Praising God is encouraged at all times and specifically after prostration
"During the night you shall glorify Him, and after prostrating" 5040
6- The Shahada (Testimony of Faith) is the first pillar of Islam and is a declaration of our monotheistic faith. The Shahada may be uttered at any stage in the Salat and any number of times
The words of the Shahada are Ash'hadu ana la illaha ila Allah' (I bear witness that there is no God other than God).
"God bears witness that there is no god except He, and so do the angels and those who possess knowledge" 318
7- In 17111 we read the following words
"Al-Hamdu l'Allah alazee lam yatakhez waladan, wa lam yakun lahu shareek fee al mulk, wa lam yakun lahu waleyon min al zol."
These words translate to
"Praise be to God who has never begotten a son, nor does He have a partner in His kingship, nor does He need an ally out of weakness" 17111
In 17110 God commands us to use a moderate voice in our Salat, immediately after which God commands us
"AND SAY, 'Praise be to God, who has never begotten a son??."
The words "AND SAY"at the beginning of verse 111 indicate that the subject is STILL Salat (the subject of 110). This means that God is commanding us to utter these specific words during our salat.
It is interesting to note that these 3 phrases have significant meanings
1- "Praise be to God who has never begotten a son,"
These words purify us from the claim of the Christians who gave God a son.
2- "nor does He have a partner in His kingship,"
These words purify us from the corrupt Muslims who made Muhammad a partner with God in everything they say or do ........
3- "nor does He need an ally out of weakness"
These words purify us from the Jewish scholars who claim that God is not able to do certain things ... etc
In effect, by uttering these words, and constantly being aware of the danger and corruption of these groups, we purify our souls and maintain the purity of our religion.
These words must be uttered during our salat.
To follow these words we should then magnify God frequently (Allah Akbar) ....
8- The 'ending' of the Salat
Since the ending of the Salat conducted by almost all Muslims today does not conform to Quranic teachings, thus this issue will be given special analysis here.
The traditional ending spoken by most Muslims today is
'Al-Salamu alaykum wa Rahmat Allah wa Barakatu'. (Peace be upon you as well as God's mercy and His blessings). This phrase is uttered twice at the conclusion of the Salat, once with the head turned to the right and once with the head turned to the left.
However, if we were to pause and consider the validity of this phrase we would immediately be faced with the following questions
A- Who are we addressing when we utter these words? Surely we cannot be addressing God because we cannot be saying to God, 'may God's mercy and blessings be upon you'!
Some will say that these words are addressed to other fellow believers who are praying alongside us. But this excuse is false, simply because these words are spoken by believers even when they are praying all on their own!
Some others will say that these words are addressed to the two angels who are recording all our deeds, one of whom is on our right shoulder and one is on our left.
Here we must inquire why should we address the angels? After all, our Salat is not directed to them! The Quran makes the point very clear that every word in our Salat should be to God and nobody else
"Say, 'My Contact Prayers (Salat), my worship practices, my life and my death, are all devoted absolutely to God alone" 6162 (also see 3911 and 2014)
To direct any words in our Salat to any other than God is indeed against the teachings of the Quran and must be totally rejected.
B- If these words are not directed to God and must thus be rejected, then what are the correct words to be uttered to end our Salat? As usual, God has once again shown us that the Quran offers explanations to all things (1689). Indeed, God has given us in the Quran the exact words that should be uttered to end the Salat. These are found in the following verse
"As for those who believe and lead a righteous life, their Lord guides them by virtue of their belief. Rivers will flow beneath them in the garden of bliss. Their prayer therein is, 'Be you glorified our God' their greeting therein is, 'Peace' and the ending to their prayer is, 'Al-Hamdu l'Allah Rab Al-Alameen (Praise be to God, Lord of the Universe)" 109-10
This verse speaks of the model believers who will be rewarded in the gardens of heaven. We are told about the last words in their prayers 'Al-Hamdu l'Allah Rab Al-Alameen' (Praise be to God, Lord of the Universe). It makes perfect sense that we should follow their example (if we would like to end up in heaven too) and end our prayers in praise of Almighty God and not bidding farewell to the angels!
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Salaam brother Afridi, all,
Please see my following discussions in which I have given logical proof from the Qur'aan about timed salaat of the believers being obligatory only at two times dawn and dusk, and how "al-salaat al-wusta" cannot be the name of a salaat grammatically and according to the context of usage, and is traditionally mistranslated
http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=12200.msg92976#msg92976
http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=13595.0
http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=14283.0
One can, however, perform an additional salaat during night as NAFAL (optional), for extra credit
1779 And from the night awake for it additionally (naafilatan) for yourself, perhaps your Lord would grant you to a high rank.
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As far as dulook al shams, which is the decline of the sun. I don't think its when it STARTS declining but when it declines. Another words sunset. The ghasaq is the darkness. So its from the decline of the sun to the darkness, it sounds like maghrib to me. This is probably why the middle one was mentioned as a precaution since its very short, about 45 minutes, and people can easily neglect it and miss it.
Those who say then why was not maghrib mentioned, this is because maghrib is a point in time, when the sun declines and slowly vanishes. Its not a time scale but a point in time. This was then explained as a time scale by sunset to darkness, giving people time to pray or else people would have prayed while the sun was setting and then would not pray if the missed the sunset. This time scale ends when darkness falls. Ghasaq is extreme dark. Now it is Isha. Isha is easily known since its a time scale and so is fajr. Whoever maghrib is a point in time and thus a time scale was explained.
Thats how I see the verses.
Sunnis of course can claim that the verse about the two edges of daytime can mean from noon to sunset, meaning zuhr and beginning of maghrib where asr ends. But so far nahar seems to be daytime which includes morning.
Anybody knows what nahar mean? Is it daytime or noon time?
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hey, friends. i usually pray five times a day, bowing, prostrating. i recite al-Fatiha to open, and "Allah hu Akbar" while prostrating and rising, and usually add some of the names of Allah while sitting finally, and some du'a for those i know and don't know. i enjoy and am grateful for the ritual of salat, but don't think it needs to be done exactly this way or that way to be "valid".