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Alright, the wording makes me rotfl but
023.005
YUSUFALI Who abstain from sex,
PICKTHAL And who guard their modesty -
SHAKIR And who guard their private parts,023.006
YUSUFALI Except with those joined to them in the marriage bond, or (the captives) whom their right hands possess,- for (in their case) they are free from blame,
PICKTHAL Save from their wives or the (slaves) that their right hands possess, for then they are not blameworthy,
SHAKIR Except before their mates or those whom their right hands possess, for they surely are not blameable,023.007
YUSUFALI But those whose desires exceed those limits are transgressors;-
PICKTHAL But whoso craveth beyond that, such are transgressors -
SHAKIR But whoever seeks to go beyond that, these are they that exceed the limits; -
023.005
YUSUFALI Who abstain from sex,
PICKTHAL And who guard their modesty -
SHAKIR And who guard their private parts,023.006
YUSUFALI Except with those joined to them in the marriage bond, or (the captives) whom their right hands possess,- for (in their case) they are free from blame,
PICKTHAL Save from their wives or the (slaves) that their right hands possess, for then they are not blameworthy,
SHAKIR Except before their mates or those whom their right hands possess, for they surely are not blameable,023.007
YUSUFALI But those whose desires exceed those limits are transgressors;-
PICKTHAL But whoso craveth beyond that, such are transgressors -
SHAKIR But whoever seeks to go beyond that, these are they that exceed the limits;I guess its okay as long as you use your right hand rotfl
But seriously, I don't think masturbation qualifies as sex. -
Pace,
i agree...masterbation isnt sex. sex is copulation which involves two parties...your hand doesnt count as another party. loool
unless you count it as a party in your pants loool D
funny one brian about the right han thing i was thinking the same thing loool
peace
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I'm ambidextrous..... in this situation.
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peace yall
soomething we can keep to ourselves loool
tmi (too much information)
this will definitely make think twice about shaking any of yalls hands without making you use some kind of waterless sanitizer. loool
peace
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Sorry, it just seemed funny. But I guess if you didn't want to much info you shouldn't have went into this topic in the first place.
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peace,
whatever! i bet youll use your hand for a long itme as in no one would want to be with someone who is soo rude!
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shoo sar? huwa majnoon?
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I'm not being rude, I'm just saying that this is a topic that sometimes will be the start of a few jokes. I guess that was a little immature of me.
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Ok this thread's gone dead but I wanted to add something to it. From what i picked up on other threads on this issue, it seems that masturbation is generally acceptable. I've started to think differently.
2430 Tell the believing men to lower their gaze and wayafa their private parts, for that is better for them. God is fully aware of what you do.
The root of wayafa is
Ha-Fa-Za = To preserve/guard/protect a thing, take care of a thing, prevent a thing from perishing, to be careful/mindful/regardful/attentive/considerate concerning a thing, to keep a thing, put in store, retain a thing, learn a thing by heart (commit to memory), to remember, to defend, keep a thing from getting lost, to be observant or watchful, apply oneself/assiduously/constantly/perseveringly, vigilant or heedful, to anger a person or be angered.
With the meanings of the root, some have argued that the act is not forbidden as it advises the men to just be mindful, careful or considerated with regards to their parts. Some may even think that this verse does not even apply to masturbation. I think it does as the the private parts are necessary for the act and this verse is referring to them.
So what does it mean to be considerate or preserve? IMO to abstain completely (but i say this from personal experience and opinion) but it could also mean that just do the act once a week or once a day, which again makes it subjective to an individual's interpretation. But what is missing from these threads IMO, are some important imformation with regards to the act.
Despite being said to be a healthy and harmless activity, there are actually disadvantages to the act.
The most traceable and verifiable one of these, is the loss of zinc. Note that this loss of zinc does not happen during sex but only happens in masturbation. Zinc defeciency has many consequences such as hair loss. So someone who does the act everyday, is seriously messing with their zinc levels.It's hard to get hold of some decent sources and info on the harms of masturbation but from personal experience, i believe that the act is harmful and so i really wanted to share this with others on the forum. I read something somewhere which i could mostly relate to. Here is what someone wrote
Yes, I can tell you from my own experience. I used to masturbate regurlarly (more than three times a week). I used to feel excessively tired. Now I have been doing this since the age of 16. At around 20 years, I realized my hair was falling. Doctors told me it was Male Pattern baldness. My head looks emptier now, except I managed to bring the hair shedding under control. The answer was simple, supplement 5 mg of zinc in my diet.
Semen contains very high amounts of zinc. Hence when you masturbate frequently, you lose a lot of zinc, which the body takes time to absorb even from supplementation.I will advise that you lower masturbation frequency to once in two weeks. You will notice a massive difference in energy, libido and your overall appearance
Link http//wiki.answers.com/Q/Can_masturbation_lose_your_zinc_level_in_your_body
I know there appears to be not much credible stuff. But i'd still advise people who do the act to think on it more and look into it more and try to abstain for like a month and see the outcomes. I thought posting this was better than not posting this.
So now when i think of being mindful or preserving the private parts, i think think abstaining.
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Simple >>> Is masturbation allowed? D
Who cares?
IT'S NONE OF THEIR BUSINESS.
HARAM! -
Peace be upon you,
with all due Respect.Well, one must go through The Quran and see for the prohibition of this. If there isn't one, then i guess ......
When you are split between a bigger sin and a smaller sin and there is no other option or way out, then i would say smaller sin will happen, afterall, we are human and not robots.God knows best.
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well women don't have semen.
I was focusing on the men. I should have said this )
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Peace be upon you,
with all due Respect.Well, one must go through The Quran and see for the prohibition of this. If there isn't one, then i guess ...... )
When you are split between a bigger sin and a smaller sin and there is no other option or way out, then i would say smaller sin will happen, afterall, we are human and not robots.God knows best.
Peace.Peace Alen
I don't view it as a sin. I just think that to abstain or limit it alot, it is better for you. It's like excersising is better for you but without excersising your not necessarily sining. I'm not sure though. Just expressing an opinion with some (though weak) backing. I'm really relying on personal experience on this one.
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so it is not haram for women
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I don't know. I've not really gone after to see if there are possibly any negative effects for women (although i have heard of one which i'd rather not mention) Either way 2430 refers to men and 2431 refers to women in the same way so i would think IF it was meant to be haram for one gender, then it would be haram for the other also.
I'm not sure whether it's haram though. I just think that it's better to abstain perhaps, kind of like excercising or studying is a good thing.
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Peace Alen
I don't view it as a sin. I just think that to abstain or limit it alot, it is better for you. It's like excersising is better for you but without excersising your not necessarily sining. I'm not sure though. Just expressing an opinion with some (though weak) backing. I'm really relying on personal experience on this one.
Peace be upon you,
with all due Respect.I tried exercising a lot and it does work, .... for a while. Then again you must remember that we are all humans and weak and that says it all, just my opinion. But i do agree and think that one should avoid it as much as humanly possible. Of course, if you had his much concerns and worries like me, it would not be a problem as one may think ....
Peace.