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16:44 - Explain.

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    Alen
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    Salam.

    1644 With clarity and the Psalms. And We sent down to you the Reminder to make clear to the people what was sent to them, and perhaps they will think.

    How does he (prophet Muhammad) clarify, if he does not use his words?
    Provide evidence.

    Peace.

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      What is Al-Th-K-R. Well let's look at 'the reminder' to find out

      159 Inna nahnu nazzalna alththikra wainna lahu lahafithoona

      159 Indeed it is We who have sent down the Reminder, and indeed it is We who will preserve it.

      1643 Wama arsalna min qablika illa rijalan noohee ilayhim faisaloo ahla alththikri in kuntum la taAAlamoona

      1643 And We did not send any except men before you whom We inspired, so ask the people who received the Reminder if you do not know.

      1644 Bialbayyinati waalzzuburi waanzalna ilayka alththikra litubayyina lilnnasi ma nuzzila ilayhim walaAAallahum yatafakkaroona

      1644 With clarity and the Psalms. And We sent down to you the Reminder to make clear to the people what was sent to them, and perhaps they will think.

      3611 Innama tunthiru mani ittabaAAa alththikra wakhashiya alrrahmana bialghaybi fabashshirhu bimaghfiratin waajrin kareemin

      3611 You can only warn him who follows the reminder, and reverences the Almighty while unseen. Give him good news of forgiveness and a generous reward.

      381 Sad waalqurani thee alththikri

      381 S', and the Qur'an that contains the remembrance.

      388 Aonzila AAalayhi alththikru min baynina bal hum fee shakkin min thikree bal lamma yathooqoo AAathabi

      388 "Has the remembrance been sent down to him, from between all of us!" Indeed, they are doubtful of My reminder. Indeed, they have not yet tasted My retribution.

      4141 Inna allatheena kafaroo bialththikri lamma jaahum wainnahu lakitabun AAazeezun

      4141 Surely, those who have rejected the Reminder when it came to them; and it is an Honorable Scripture.

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      435 Afanadribu AAankumu alththikra safhan an kuntum qawman musrifeena

      435 Shall We turn away the reminder from you, because you are a transgressing people?

      5155 Wathakkir fainna alththikra tanfaAAu almumineena

      5155 And remind, for the reminder benefits the believers.

      879 Fathakkir in nafaAAati alththikra

      879 So remind, perhaps the reminder will help

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        unknownuser
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        Also in surah 74...

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          Mutazilah
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          Does everyone agree with this?

          What do you think about Edip?s explanation

          dip Yuksel - End Note 7 (1652)
          The Arabic word BaYaNa means (1) explain an ambiguous message; or (2) declare a hidden message. This multiple-meaning verse is one of the most abused verses by the followers of hadith hearsay. They choose the first meaning. Their rendering, however, contradicts many verses of the Quran the Quran is explained not by Muhammad, but by its author, God Himself (7519). Thus it is described as a "clarified/explained book" (515; 121; 26195; 446), and we are reminded over and over that it is "easy to understand" (5417,22,32,40). Thus, the second alternative is the intended meaning, since the Quran was received by Muhammad in a private session called revelation, and his job was to deliver and declare the message he received. God orders Muhammad to proclaim the revelation which is revealed to him personally. Indeed, this is the whole mission of the messengers (1635). Thus, the word "litubayyena" of 1644 is similar to the one in 3187. Verse 3187 tells us that the people who received the revelation should "proclaim the scripture to the people, and never conceal it." See 2159,160; 3187 and 1664. For a comparative discussion on verse 1644, see the Sample Comparisons section in the Introduction. The Quran is simple to understand (5411). Whoever opens his/her mind and heart as a monotheist and takes the time to study it, will understand it. This understanding will be enough for salvation. Beyond this, to understand the multiple-meaning verses you do not need to be a messenger of God. If you have a good mind and have studied the Quran as a believer, that is, if you have a deep knowledge, then you will be able to understand the true meanings of multiple- meaning verses. The verse 37, which is about the multiple-meaning verses, points this fact in a multiple-meaning way (this is an interesting subject warranting another article) ". . . No one knows their true meaning except God and those who possess knowledge. . ."

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            Mutazilah
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            As i have understand both articles

            the Reminder= alththikra = Quran,

            Bialbayyinati = proclaim, reveal

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              Under the "book" tab, there is an article called "Quran - The true Sunnah of Prophet Muhammad" whereby brother Naveed explains, in my opinion, clearly how the prophet explained the Quran through the Quran. That is the best explanation I have seen up to now. However the link to the article does not work. Can Layth check this out?

              Regards

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                Under the "book" tab, there is an article called "Quran - The true Sunnah of Prophet Muhammad" whereby brother Naveed explains, in my opinion, clearly how the prophet explained the Quran through the Quran. That is the best explanation I have seen up to now. However the link to the article does not work. Can Layth check this out?

                Regards

                This would be great.

                I found this in the forum about the word bayana

                = ?bayana?

                ?bayana? definition

                Masculine singular. A man, or thing, bearing evidence of a quality that he, or it, possesses. A man perspicuous, or clear, or distinct in speech or language; or chaste therein; or eloquent; fluent, elegant and elevated in speech and having little hesitation therein. Signifies the being distinct or apparent. The means by which one makes a thing distinct, apparent, manifest, evident, clear, plain, or perspicuous; this is of two kinds; one is a circumstantial indication or evidence; or a thing indicating or giving evidence of a circumstance or state that is a result, or an effect, of a quality or an attribute; the other is a verbal indication or evidence, either spoken or written; it is also applied to language that discovers and shows the meaning that is intended; and an explanation of confused and vague language; or the eduction of a thing from a state of dubiousness to a state of clearness; or making the meaning apparent to the mind so that it becomes distinct from other meanings and from what may be confounded with it. Clear; open to see; self expressive; severing. Declaration; explanation; argument; rhetoric; clear meaning; intelligent and distinct speech. It applies to both thought and speech, in as much as it comprises the faculty of making a thing or an idea apparent to the mind and conceptually distinct from other things as well as the power to express the cognition in spoken or written language. It comes from the root ?bana?, which means to be distinct and separate, far away, remote from, divorced (women), clear, obvious , appear, explain. It, a thing, or an affair, or a case, was, or became distinct as though separate from others, and thus apparent, manifest, evident, clear, plain, or perspicuous; and it was, or became known.

                References
                An Arabic-English Lexicon, E.W. Lane, volume one, pp. 285 - 289
                The Dictionary of the Holy Qur?an, 1st edition, Abdul Mannan Omar, pp. 70 ? 71

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                  Mutazilah
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                  Selam,

                  http//www.free-minds.org/books/naveed.htm

                  Can anyone fix this, or send the book to me?

                  I have found the following, and because i dont speak Arabic i have to ask someone here

                  2216 Wakathalika anzalnahu ayatinbayyinatin waanna Allaha yahdee man yureedu - translated in the Bosnian translation of the Quran as "revealed"

                  1644 Bialbayyinati waalzzuburiwaanzalna ilayka alththikra litubayyina lilnnasima nuzzila ilayhim walaAAallahum yatafakkaroona - translated as "explain the revelation".

                  Is there a difference between the verbs ayatinbayyinatin and litubayyina which would explain the different usage of the word BaYaNa in this two verses?

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                    Muslimtruthrevealed
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                    Selam,

                    http//www.free-minds.org/books/naveed.htm

                    Can anyone fix this, or send the book to me?

                    I have found the following, and because i dont speak Arabic i have to ask someone here

                    2216 Wakathalika anzalnahu ayatinbayyinatin waanna Allaha yahdee man yureedu - translated in the Bosnian translation of the Quran as "revealed"

                    1644 Bialbayyinati waalzzuburiwaanzalna ilayka alththikra litubayyina lilnnasima nuzzila ilayhim walaAAallahum yatafakkaroona - translated as "explain the revelation".

                    Is there a difference between the verbs ayatinbayyinatin and litubayyina which would explain the different usage of the word BaYaNa in this two verses?

                    Salaam Alaikum

                    1644....anzalna ilayka alththikra li tubayyina li lnnasi = Message is sent down to YOU to be clear, distinct and for human beings to perceive and understand

                    Unfortunately, the transliteration is somewhat problematic....litubayyina is incorrect

                    It actually reads in the arabic as "li tubayyina"

                    tubayyina is preceded by the preposition 'li'

                    Prepositions ?Li? preceding the words li tubayyina li lnnasi indicates an association with human beings and abstract entities (in this case Al Thikr) one cannot physically possess; ?Al-Kitaab fii Ta?allum al-Arabiyya? page 111


                    2216....ayatin bayyinatin...again merely a transliteration issue

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                      The book discussed above. A good read

                      www.mypercept.co.uk/articles/Quran_True_Sunnah_of_Messenger_Naveed.htm

                      Please save the page as the above is not a permanent link.

                      All information is correct to the best of my knowledge only and thus should not be taken as a fact. One should always seek knowledge and verify for themselves when possible: 17:36, 20:114, 35:28, 49:6, 58:11.

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