Palestinian Nasheed-Singer: Mays Shalash
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Salaam all
This is a mere political call to the free world not to forget them, and is telling about their sufferings and how they are being oppressed. Not even a mention of God or Allah. Could be sung by someone of any faith or even faithless. But her voice is beautiful and the song is nice.
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This is a mere political call to the free world not to forget them, and is telling about their sufferings and how they are being oppressed. Not even a mention of God or Allah. Could be sung by someone of any faith or even faithless. But her voice is beautiful and the song is nice.
salam,
A Nasheed does not necessarily have to mention the word 'God', or refer to specific 'Islamic words' to make them Islamic. Talking about the oppressed and reminding others not to forget them is a good enough reason to make it a good song. I believe any song with a good message can be referred to as a Nasheed, and such a song should be valued for its good meanings and morals.
Nevertheless, even if these songs are 'typical sunni stuff' with elements of Sunnism in them, the reason I posted them is not much to do with lyrics, but to encourage Muslim women to perform Nasheeds like Mays Shalash did in those videos. Sunni restrictions prevent females from singing as soon as they reach the age of puberty, using their own baseless teachings that the woman's voice is a 'Fithnah' and a threat which must not be heard publicly. So Mays Shalash is a special case which breaks these Sunni barriers and gives us hope of more female Nasheed-artists in the future, of which there exists none today.
wasalam
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Salaam Ameen
I was responding to other posts which either expected it to be mere sunni stuff or were praying she would not be silenced. For me this is a song.
Also, who told you women do not sing in Muslim/Arab countries, or are restricted from singing? In fact they are more encouraged to do religious songs than ordinary, sentimental songs. And definitely political singing is not frowned upon, even by sunnis. There is countless number of female singers in all fields. Nobody issued fatwas against them, to my knowledge, so far. This might sound like a paradox, but it is a fact.
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Also, who told you women do not sing in Muslim/Arab countries, or are restricted from singing? In fact they are more encouraged to do religious songs than ordinary, sentimental songs. And definitely political singing is not frowned upon, even by sunnis. There is countless number of female singers in all fields. Nobody issued fatwas against them, to my knowledge, so far. This might sound like a paradox, but it is a fact.
salam,
Can you please show me one or two links to such 'religious songs' or Nasheeds sung by Muslim women the ones which you speak of? Most Muslims, at-least here in the West, frown upon and ban women from singing publicly because they class the woman's voice as 'awrah' ie. something that must not be heard by the men. This of-course has no basis in the Qur'an, but is what their Hadith and scholars teach. For example, take a look at this famous nasheed-shop online www.thenasheedshop.com , and you will see that every single Nasheed-singer listed is male. There are frequently Nasheed-concerts and events held in the West, like www.theglobalunity.com, and not ever will you find a female singer performing on-stage, because this to them is totally haram, as the woman's voice would be 'beautified' to the men. And most of the fathwas do ban women from singing publicly; can you please show me a fathwa which has allowed this? Yusuf Al-Qaradawi has been an exception to this, and the singer Mays Shalash actually went to this sheikh to get a verdict on her singing in public.
wasalam
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Salaam Ameen
The songs I know of do not have links...maybe because of copyright, or they are to be purchased.
Here are 2 songs, a bedouin and a religious, by Om Kolthoom, from Egypt, Qaradawi's countryhttp//songs.6arab.com/omkolthoom..el-alb-ye3shag-kol-jameel.ram
http//songs.6arab.com/om-kalthom..ya-3ain-ya-3ain1.ram
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In fact they are more encouraged to do religious songs than ordinary, sentimental songs. And definitely political singing is not frowned upon...
salam,
Maybe I should have made clear; I am referring to singers who usually sing songs which would be classed as 'religious' or spiritual, or about a good political / moral message. In other words, I was referring to singers who only focus on this kind of songs, and I was not referring to singers who always sing 'love-songs' but occasionally happen to write a spiritual one. The type of singers I am referring to are the ones listed on that website www.thenasheedshop.com. These are the singers which Muslims accept as being legitimite Nasheed-singers, and many of these singers have their own websites, like www.samiyusuf.com and www.zainbhikha.com. But until today, these Muslims have not accepted a single Muslim woman into this category of Nasheed-singers despite their talents, and this is because of their Sunni teachings from Hadith and their corrupt mentality against the nature of women in general.
Thanks for the links.
wasalam
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Om Kolthoom started by singing exclusively religious nasheeds for many years (from her childhood into her adulthood). The religious song was probably during that period, but the other one was during the metamorphose a bedouin song.
I know there are many "munshidas" of sufi songs in Egypt, but they are not on the internet. I know this because a student of mine was writing her PhD on those "female munshids" in Egypt.
I read the name of Mys Shalash (the one on youtube you posted ) on this link among all-male list of munshids
http//www.anashed.net/anashed/anashed.html
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salam,
A Nasheed does not necessarily have to mention the word 'God', or refer to specific 'Islamic words' to make them Islamic. Talking about the oppressed and reminding others not to forget them is a good enough reason to make it a good song. I believe any song with a good message can be referred to as a Nasheed, and such a song should be valued for its good meanings and morals.
Nevertheless, even if these songs are 'typical sunni stuff' with elements of Sunnism in them, the reason I posted them is not much to do with lyrics, but to encourage Muslim women to perform Nasheeds like Mays Shalash did in those videos. Sunni restrictions prevent females from singing as soon as they reach the age of puberty, using their own baseless teachings that the woman's voice is a 'Fithnah' and a threat which must not be heard publicly. So Mays Shalash is a special case which breaks these Sunni barriers and gives us hope of more female Nasheed-artists in the future, of which there exists none today.
Thanks for about this explanation.Just, because sunniis listening these nasheeds and they acsept them,I considered them something sunni staff.
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Sr. Samia,
It is true, women singing has been made forbidden by Sunni scholars. I am actually surpirised how you did not bump accross these teachings.
Plenty of (unauthorised) fatwas around on this matter.
Salaam AOH
I know that sunnis (or may I say, hardline sunnis and sheikhs) are against the voice of women in all forms; but I wont raise this objection to the status of "fatwas". Saudi TV shows female broadcasters who are not covering their faces nor their voices, maybe not even their hair. If female singers are all over Arab/muslim TV channels, this means there are no official fatwas stopping them. Do you know of any fatwa that has/had been issued against any female singer?
When the Sudan was governed by strict islamic law, there were still veiled female broadcasters and female singers who were allowed to only do nashids and patriotic songs. Now that the government has abandonned the shari3a law (but they are still sunnis ;D), female singers returned to the stage with sentimental and love songs (and less nashids ).
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Here are 2 songs, a bedouin and a religious, by Om Kolthoom, from Egypt, Qaradawi's country
http//songs.6arab.com/omkolthoom..el-alb-ye3shag-kol-jameel.ram
http//songs.6arab.com/om-kalthom..ya-3ain-ya-3ain1.ram
Thank you Samia ? those are entertaining/soothing at 2am while reading.
I?ve never found a Qur?an recital with female voice; that would be nice as well.
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Salaam Nun
You're welcome. They are two of my favorites.
As for recitation of quraan, I never came accross one. This is where (funny enough) women's voice is considered insulting to read the holy script loud! Or maybe no woman tried to do so out of fear (not of God).
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Do you know of any fatwa that has/had been issued against any female singer?
salam,
Those fathwas are not One; they are everywhere! If you go to any fathwa-website and search on women's voice, you are sure to find fathwas prohibiting the women's voice. For example, you can take a look at the following fathwa on one of the most popular fathwa-websites
http//qa.sunnipath.com/issue_view.asp?HD=1&ID=1321&CATE=88
It is a very good point to mention that they have also banned women from reciting the Qur'an like the male Qaris do, and this is due to the very same reason as why they ban women from singing. In the following fathwa, both singing AND reciting the Qur'an is being banned in one shot, using the same excuse that the women's voice 'leads to fithna'
http//qa.sunnipath.com/issue_view.asp?HD=1&ID=1361&CATE=88
I also recently posted those nasheed-videos on two other forums, and the Sunni moderators at those forums immediately DELETED and removed my threads because of the influence of these anti-women fathwas. One of these moderators actually posted links to the fathwas I mentioned above, which shows that these fathwas provide a blanket-ban on ALL women's voice being used for ANY purpose, even if it is being used for such a noble purpose as reciting the Qur'an. So I'm not sure why you are asking for a fathwa which has been issued against a single female singer in the Arab world? The issue is much broader than that because their fathwas rule the WHOLE female population not just one or two individuals.
wasalam
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Salaam Ameen
I think we are talking about different undertsandings when we mention "fatwa". I understand it as a legal, official opinion that calls for a law to implement it. It should, therefore, be issued by an official body. What you mean is a mere opinion. Since women voice is heard on TV's and workplaces, it means that no legal fatwa has yet been issued, or that the prevailing understanding has not been endorsed as legal or has to be applied. There isn't even a suggested punishment for women who raise their voices or any mention of any of them by name.
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I think we are talking about different undertsandings when we mention "fatwa". I understand it as a legal, official opinion that calls for a law to implement it. It should, therefore, be issued by an official body. What you mean is a mere opinion. Since women voice is heard on TV's and workplaces, it means that no legal fatwa has yet been issued, or that the prevailing understanding has not been endorsed as legal or has to be applied. There isn't even a suggested punishment for women who raise their voices or any mention of any of them by name.
salam,
I was referring to the kind of fathwa which is issued by mufthis all over the world; they may be mere opinions of these mufthis but the Muslims who follow these mufthis take these fathwas as undeniable Law which must be implemented. The type of fathwa you are talking about only exists in the countries which are run by Sunni Muslims themselves, and does not affect the rest of world not following such a system. Just because some countries are being run by Sunni Muslims does not make their fathwas any more 'official' or 'legal', because the fact is that it is in their teachings to ban women's voice and they do ban women in the countless fathwas issued by mufthis all around the world. What matters is that the Muslims are following these fathwas and are being affected by them, so the question of what happens in some 'Muslim' countries is irrelevant.
wasalam