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حَبلِ الوريد Perception and meanings; Vocal Cord.

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    unknownuser
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    Freedom of will = the right to choose whatever
    Independence from a creator = having absolutely no need for the creator.
    The relationship of freedom to independence in comparison must be similar and balanced. Considering "will" for freedom and "creator" for independence creates disimilarity and confusion. One can equally claim "freedom from creator", as in, "independent from creator" (atheists) OR vise versa (believers). On the contrary, for example, one has full liberty to choose which store one must go to in order to purchase a shirt, hence one is independent of such a choice and the freedom to choose but both the store and the shirts are in itself restrictive to freedom and independence. In absolute sense, living in our given realm of life, with or without imagining a "God", there is neither freedom nor independence. In other words, there's no free will.

    The Quran has beautifully made the distinction between the two

    {Ref 3515} The Independent in Only One; the created is not independent; he enjoys freedom of action/decision not independently but in the given framework of things. Independence does not know restrictions imposed from outside. Anything dependent upon something or restricted by something gets out of the fold of being called or regarded as independent. Only he can be considered independent who is ??
    Whether a person is independent or not, restrictions are ALWAYS imposed from both internal and external justifications, unless compared in similarity. For example, I am living all alone by myself in my own home. I have no one else to dictate or interfere in whatever I do, thereby I am independent and have the freedom from others to live my own life but at the same time I am restrictive and dependent upon my surrounding within the confines of my home. As mentioned above, in the absolute sense, there in neither freedom nor independence in totality. Besides, certain renderings and implications of Quran are not universal and neither current.

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      Mazhar
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      Re Can it be proved that "Qiblatain" is an Arabic word?
      ? Reply #32 on July 19, 2007, 061117 PM ?

      Let's look at hablun now. We find hablun in other places in the Quran as a bond or treaty as well.

      {In Muheet I have al-ribaatu (ribbon, band, ligament, ligature, bond, fetter, shackle), al-rasanu (halter) (kal-muhabbal) kamu&adh-dham (exalted, glorious, bony or ossified), ar-ramlu al-mustateelu (long stretched sand), al-&ahdu(pact or contract), al-dhimatu (custody, care, covenant of protection) al-amaanu (responsibility), athiqalu (heaviness, sluggishness,dullness), adaahiyatu (smart fellow, calamity, disaster), , al-wisaalu (uniting, connecting, sexual intercourse), atawaasulu (continuance, continuity), al-&aatiq (shoulder) aw atareeqatu allatee baina al&unuqu wa ra'sil-katifi (the path that is leads from the neck to the head of teh shoulder), aw a&sabatun baina al-&unuq wal-mankib (union tie bind btween the nick and the shoulder/side/flank) wa &irqun feedhiraa&i wa fee aldhahri (root, stem, vein in the arm and in the back).}

      I haven't check lane but I'm sure you will find much under hablun. So clarifying hablu-l-wareed . It would also seem that hablul-wareedu is specifally a phrase for the jugular vein. It can have different meanings but this seems to be the most logical. I would say that the difficulty that Mazhar had is categorized under number 3
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      3. Maybe your dictionary only has a few selected meanings, check different dictionaries.

      After reading the article at this link where Hablil warid is also visible to the eyes, can it be denied that it was the Quran which for the first time used this metaphor to give knowledge of something hidden in human body? All scinetific knowledge {physical sceinces} not visible for human eye is described by metaphors. If Lane and others translated this word as "Jugular vein" it was merely because of lack of knowledge/information and since he and others could not perceive anything else from Habal il warid they found the refuge in calling it a jugular vein to satisfy the reader. It is a composite word, comprising two independent words, but little was said about it gramatically. Dictionaries are therefore for elementary assistance, Quran itself shall explain its words and statements.

      http//haqeeqat.org.pk/English%20Tafsir%20e%20Haqeeqat/002.%20Meanings%20and%20Tabweeb%20of%20words/007.%20Habalil%20Warid%20%20VOCAL%20CORD/07.%20Hablil%20Warid%20Vocal%20Cord.htm

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