Lot and Homosexuality? absurd or what!
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Does the Quran not supersede all?
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Salam,
There is no difference IN THE ORIGINAL LANGUAGES between all that was revealed. The Quran is the LAST testament given to Muhammad (SAW). How can it supercede, when it is the last of what was revealed? A continuation.Salam
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capital letters doesn't make something right or true.
i guess your view of the meanings of tawra~ and injiyl are different than mine, have at it then )
winking is no more rude and disrespectful than telling someone who puts alot of energy into study that his interpretation is "confused" because you don't agree with it )
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capital letters doesn't make something right or true.
That's right, it was true BEFORE I put it in capitol letters
winking is no more rude and disrespectful than telling someone who puts alot of energy into study that his interpretation is "confused" because you don't agree with it Smiley
maybe you should think of the comment as helpful and follow the advice instead of getting defensive.
Peace -
peace
I found your intretation very interesting,
Scott Siraj Al-Haqq Kugle wrote a article about this, I have the book that it is in, and it is similar to what you say about Lots people assulting and raping males-often in prisions men are often raped to show dominance over them not partnership- and abanding their wifes/families-like what was done in ancient greece women were only to produce kidsalso the quran says god made men who do not desire women.
and this verse 4250
some say this verse talks about transgenders adn gays -
Salaams All,
mz, in the title you pose one question as a topic (then you bring up a whole bunch of different issues that are unrelated). You proceed to misinterpret verses about the angels coming to Abraham and give him news of a son through Sarah, then you try to say that Abraham is Moses father. You seem to be confusing the angels coming to give Abraham news that he will have a son through Sarah with verses about the angels coming to warn Lot in the city of Gomorrah This is why I say you need to study more and you are totally confusing these verses. There is no connection other than angels are coming to visit messengers of God But for two very different reasons.
Sorry Br.Arnab but these are all related ? it is just one story, the worst crime committed by men. Your welcome to bring just one unrelated ayah. And there are no biblical angels to my knowledge in the quran as Br. Aaron said.
Come on have a go.
God Bless.
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peace
I found your intretation very interesting,
Scott Siraj Al-Haqq Kugle wrote a article about this, I have the book that it is in, and it is similar to what you say about Lots people assulting and raping males-often in prisions men are often raped to show dominance over them not partnership- and abanding their wifes/families-like what was done in ancient greece women were only to produce kidsalso the quran says god made men who do not desire women.
and this verse 4250
some say this verse talks about transgenders adn gaysPeace reilly
can you give a reference please ? (red font)
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Hi Reily,
I am not a gay, but where are the gays in these ayah's Br?
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And say to the believing women that they should lower their gaze and guard their modesty; that they should not display their beauty and ornaments except what (must ordinarily) appear thereof; that they should draw their veils over their bosoms and not display their beauty except to their husbands, their fathers, their husband's fathers, their sons, their husbands' sons, their brothers or their brothers' sons, or their sisters' sons, or their women, or the slaves whom their right hands possess, or male servants free of physical needs, or small children who have no sense of the shame of sex; and that they should not strike their feet in order to draw attention to their hidden ornaments. And O ye Believers! turn ye all together towards Allah, that ye may attain Bliss.4250
Or He bestows both males and females, and He leaves barren whom He will for He is full of Knowledge and Power.God Bless.
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hmm... god destroyed them for being gay, or god destroyed them for genocide/infanticide
tough choice
I don't believe the Almighty would destroy an individual who's a non-violent (i.e. peaceloving) homosexual. I think the gay men in the mentioned verse were anything but peaceloving! We can conclude that from the warning words of Lot and the described agressive approach of those men/people.
Just sharing my thoughts.
peace
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Leave barren means make them sterile and unable to reproduce, not make them gay. 4250
Sodom was destroyed because they were prefering men over women. It seems that Lot's wife was practising lesbianism, and Lot wasn't aware of that. Also, Lot himself offered his daughters in marriage. Why would he offer his daughters if people were committing genocide?
God never designed men to have sex with men or to practise sodomy with women, nor women to have sex with women. Whoever thinks the contrary is defying God's law. -
Leave barren means make them sterile and unable to reproduce, not make them gay. 4250
Sodom was destroyed because they were prefering men over women. It seems that Lot's wife was practising lesbianism, and Lot wasn't aware of that. Also, Lot himself offered his daughters in marriage. Why would he offer his daughters if people were committing genocide?
God never designed men to have sex with men or to practise sodomy with women, nor women to have sex with women. Whoever thinks the contrary is defying God's law.sorry Br i didn't know cristianity was rife here- but you are proving it so.
And when you do look at a verse look at the entire verse , rather then one single word.
nice talking to you.
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All my references are from quran. See 783, 1181, 1560, 6610 stating Lot's wife was transgressing.
As for lot offering his daughters 1178Why would he offer his daughters if people were committing genocide?
there is no one sane person in the world who would make such a hideous offer as some of us suggest.
certainly not me.
the explanation is they where saving their son, Moses, on pretence that they didn't have a boy but only girls who were righteous.
remember order of Pharaoh to kill all first born "males" and not girls.
And That is All.
God Bless.