Hell
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"Who will enter the Great Fire. In which they will then neither die nor live."
Still doesn't sound very Merciful.
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Better to listen to the statement of people in hell
So you are saying "Tough luck, you should have listened and understood - you deserve to be tortured by my Merciful God."???
Is that meant to frighten me into believing?
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"Who will enter the Great Fire. In which they will then neither die nor live."
Still doesn't sound very Merciful.
What is the state of neither living nor dying?
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What is the state of neither living nor dying?
No idea - doesn't sound very nice though.
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check out this article
http//19.org/index.php?id=91,420,0,0,1,0
I'm afraid that I find conflicting views in that article when thoroughly scrutinized. -
Thanks. I read most of it.
But even if one rejects the idea of eternal punishment in Hell and understands Hell in a metaphorical sense.
It still means people are being made to suffer horrible agony simply for not believing.
When you were on the other side (i.e a believer), what was your opinion about hell?
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When you were on the other side (i.e a believer), what was your opinion about hell?
I used to think that it was a metaphore for the suffering we will endure because of any hurt we may have caused others.
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Why is your opinion changed now?
I found it difficult to believe that this opinion truly reflected the the way the Qur'an described Hell.
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I have never been able to accept the idea of a Mercifil and Compassionate God torturing his creation because they didn't believe.
Believe in reference to the Quran (to me) is more that simply "belief" but the action express base on ones awareness and faith. For example, Pharaoh believed he was a god and his actions were base on that belief. Therefore he disbelieved in GOD because based on belief and actions.
Hell is consequence of actions. It is unfair to believe that God is a "push-over" and we can do whatever we want without consequences. Discipline is apart of love and mercy. An example would be a mother that loves its child. Is the mother mean and cruel if it disciplines the child? Or is she the opposite?
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Can you explain how it is supposed to affect us on Earth? We are told God guides who God wills, and nobody can compel someone to guidance even through fear, the idea of eternal burning in hell as a justification for belief/Pascal's wager comes from Christians and atheists alike. The Quran is guidance for mankind, not a tome of worship and incantations (esp. non Arabic speaking Sunnis) for a self-sufficient God.
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No idea - doesn't sound very nice though.
I'll give you a clue, before you were born, what state were you in?
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I'll give you a clue, before you were born, what state were you in?
Are you saying that Hell is neither painful nor pleasurable - it is 'nothingness' - like you don't exist?
What is all this about burning skins, boiling drinks, garments of fire, fruit like the heads of devils etc etc...then?
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What did you believe "adribuuhunna" was?
Hit them.
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Peace Cosmic
It is not torture, it is retribution.
Joe
For not believing in God?
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Is the mother mean and cruel if it disciplines the child? Or is she the opposite?
I discipline my kids.
But I wouldn't burn their skins, pour boiling water into their skull, or make them eat fruit that shred their intestine - over and over again?
What sort of sadistic monster would I be if I did that?
And for what?
Because they murdererd? Raped? or even stole?
No.
Because they didn't believe!
Doesn't sound like a Merciful God.
Sounds like a an vain, egotistical, vindictive, petty, and jealous God.
Sounds like a made up God.