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Having a caliphate, is it valid?

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    amuslim
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    Peace,

    What are your thoughts on the caliphate? Should it be reinstated? What if it was a Quran-alone caliphate, would it change your minds?

    I think there are pros and cons to this issue, but moreso cons. Seeing todays age, I think they would be easily corrupted and not hold true to the deen.

    Peace

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      unknownuser
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      No, no and no. Has there been a single caliphate that has ever ruled fairly or wasn't corrupt to the hilt since the "four rightly guided caliphs"?

      I think Iran has a very similar system though. As does the USA.

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        afridi220
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        Peace,

        What are your thoughts on the caliphate? Should it be reinstated? What if it was a Quran-alone caliphate, would it change your minds?

        I think there are pros and cons to this issue, but moreso cons. Seeing todays age, I think they would be easily corrupted and not hold true to the deen.

        Peace

        Peace

        hmmm it is possible if you make me khalifa

        peace

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          Lost_Philosopher
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          Lets see, secular government in the middle east dont seem to work. I heard some good things about Caliphates, sure why not give it another go?

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            Leoxyz
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            Peace,

            What are your thoughts on the caliphate? Should it be reinstated? What if it was a Quran-alone caliphate, would it change your minds?

            I think there are pros and cons to this issue, but moreso cons. Seeing todays age, I think they would be easily corrupted and not hold true to the deen.

            Peace

            What are you talking about ??
            Quran alone group has no rational approach
            -they tamper the quran
            -They say that Quran is grammatically wrong (ma3aazallah)
            -They do not know the difference between "to give the book/to teach the book
            Do you expect from such person to establish some system.Impossible.
            Some educated people are required for it.

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              Jafar
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              What are you talking about ??
              Quran alone group has no rational approach

              It might be true, but it's still better than the Ahlu Sunna/Sunni and Shia..

              -they tamper the quran

              Sunni and shia does the same and much worse actually..

              -They say that Quran is grammatically wrong (ma3aazallah)

              Sunni and shia says that portions of the Quran has been abrogated (ma3aazallah)

              -They do not know the difference between "to give the book/to teach the book

              Sunni and Shiah doesn't know the difference between "Al-Hikmah" (Wisdom) and "Hadith" (Hearsays/Gossips)

              Do you expect from such person to establish some system.Impossible.

              Of course not.. don't be ridiculous..

              Some educated people are required for it.

              Yeah let's put those Sunni and/or Shia's Ulema (The Learned and most educated one) the ultimate and uncontrolled power by establishing "The Sunni Caliph" or "Shia Caliph" or both.. And i'll surely left (Hijra/Migrate) the country with those kind of system.

              Salam

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                Samia
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                -They say that Quran is grammatically wrong (ma3aazallah)

                You are the one who says so when you insist on applying classical arabic rules to a spoken language.

                As I advised you on that thread, go back and show that you can still apply the wrong rules to the qur'aan. This attempt has long been done by people who believe qur'aan is defective, just like those who believe some of its verses are abrogated. It is not enough to say "ma3aazallah" or "allaho akbar" to convince people that you are a good muslim. It should show in your attitude and honesty first of all.

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