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The ban on the Koran and other nonsensical rantings

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    amuslim
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    Peace

    I found that that quote of his pretty funny. His opinions dont bother me though. I only worry about what God will do to me.

    If they banned the Quran here where I live I wouldnt get mad at all, at least for my personal development. I havent memorized it nor am I one to teach it, but the gist of the message I have received. Although I believe that we do learn something new everytime we read it.

    Peace

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      Angel
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      Peace Arnold,

      that was an interesting post.

      Next to this, is that almost 80% of all Muslim literature comes from the Wahabi/Salafi sects and thus is very irrational, discriminating, anti-Western and hateful literature that supports the idea Islam is all of the above.

      that is terrible, it's not surprising that the Dutch are starting to become more intolerent about Islam, most of the Islamic literature here in England is perfectly acceptable, seldom do you find anything hateful. I am quite surprised that you accepted Islam considering the fact that you did not have a good choice of Islamic literature available.

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        arnoldyasin
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        I am quite surprised that you accepted Islam considering the fact that you did not have a good choice of Islamic literature available.

        Peace Angel,

        I became Muslim of the Koran and stated Muslim because of it. I learned very quickly to see through the nonsense also because of my scientifical background. Thank God.

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          Leoxyz
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          Salaam Aleikum,

          I just witnessed a parlement speech of Geert Wilders, the party leader of the PVV in Holland. He has gained a lot of fame for his demand of banning the Koran and many other anti-Muslim demands.

          Today he made a remark that almost knocked me out of my seat from laughing, see his words

          "If we take out all the violent passages from the Koran, we would be left with a booklet the size of the Donald Duck magazine".

          I must say, for a Islam-hater, he is good

          Yes non muslims are trying their level best to "Tamper the Quran".
          One clear example of "Kazzab" of this time who has tried to take out Verses (9128,129z)
          But Allah is More Powerful to protect this Holy Quran

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            Ghulam_Rasool
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            The so called most liberal and tolerant country in the world tolerates a public servant who gets a public salary making such hateful statements and does nothing. This is the height of hypocrisy.

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              AlFajr
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              He is ignorant, people like him need to actually read the Quran without taking stuff out of context. brickwall

              Peace all

              Al

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                Angel
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                The so called most liberal and tolerant country in the world tolerates a public servant who gets a public salary making such hateful statements and does nothing. This is the height of hypocrisy.

                in a liberal and tolerant country nearly all views can be expressed. Here in the UK while I loath the racist BNP and the Islamofacist HT I defend their right to express their nonsensical views, there was a time when I wanted both groups banned, but because both groups are extremely unpopular and the influence they have is insignificant it does not really matter.

                I became Muslim of the Koran and stated Muslim because of it. I learned very quickly to see through the nonsense also because of my scientifical background. Thank God.

                did you use to cherry pick or did you manage to get your hands on decent literature?

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                  Ghulam_Rasool
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                  in a liberal and tolerant country nearly all views can be expressed. Here in the UK while I loath the racist BNP and the Islamofacist HT I defend their right to express their nonsensical views, there was a time when I wanted both groups banned, but because both groups are extremely unpopular and the influence they have is insignificant it does not really matter.

                  First of all, most liberal western democracies have "hate laws" which forbid hate speech and displaying of racist symbols. In countries like Netherlands, secret government agents go into mosques and monitor the sermons of the imams, and many times they are arrested for merely preaching orthodox religious beliefs. Yet when a government official in public, and paid by the public including Muslim tax-payers, says the Holy Quran should be banned nothing happens.

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                    Elke
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                    Peace yusha

                    for once we agree. But just imagine the same scenario in an islamic country. People are the same everywhere.

                    lk

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                      wildguest1956
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                      Very good analysis, AY.
                      One can observe nearly the same phenomenon in France.

                      Is this text available in one of your blogs ?

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                        arnoldyasin
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                        It is available on my Blog

                        http//www.arnoldyasinmol.blogspot.com/

                        I will try to write more on current situations in Holland.

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                          Al-Quraishi
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                          Ha lol - I posted a link on Free Islam a short while back of an article on Christianity.com that praises what this moron is saying.

                          How the Thalimun are hypocrites, yes Muslims are evil, they hate freedom - Ban their Religious text!!!

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                            jankren
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                            May God protect the man from any Muslim extremist who intends to do something stupid which could make horrendous hostility against Muslims grow even bigger.

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                              Raj-ah
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                              I will try to write more on current situations in Holland
                              .

                              Is Denis Giron a Dutch? can you confirm please?

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                                arnoldyasin
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                                Peace Rajah,

                                No, he is not Dutch.

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                                  Edip_Yuksel
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                                  Brother Arnold

                                  Then, try your best to challenge that guy. Since it is a small country, I believe you might have a chance to be heard. You may even come up with a creative way to pull the attention of media.

                                  Peace,
                                  Edip

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                                    arnoldyasin
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                                    Size doesn't matter Edip

                                    Many organisations have challenged him, but he ignores them, and without him they are not allowed to tell their side of the story in the media. It is played really smart by his organisation.

                                    I have my plans, but they have a long term effect and take time to settle.

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                                      Jafar
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                                      Leave him be... when you meet with him say "PEACE"...

                                      Why?
                                      Because the Quran said so..

                                      And the servants of the loving God are those who walk upon the earth in humbleness,
                                      and when the ignorant (Al-Jahilunna) address them, they say Peace

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                                        Samia
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                                        May God protect the man from any Muslim extremist who intends to do something stupid which could make horrendous hostility against Muslims grow even bigger.

                                        HAHAHA..You give another meaning to "May God protect him"..

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                                          Samia
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                                          Leave him be... when you meet with him say "PEACE"...

                                          Why?
                                          Because the Quran said so..

                                          And the servants of the loving God are those who walk upon the earth in humbleness,
                                          and when the ignorant (Al-Jahilunna) address them, they say Peace

                                          With due respect, I do not agree that this verse is applicable in this situation. He is not addressing Yasin. If he was, it would be a private/personal matter and Yasin may just ignore the insult and say "Peace". But this is slander. With slander you are not commanded to say "peace", on the contrary, this is a venue of lawful struggle (and debate them with the qur'aan).

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