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    Navid
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    I don't think mathematical signs are taken as any source of guidance/law (for me at least). They are simply there to strengthen one's faith.

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      ijaz
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      Explorer,

      Yes that is my opinion coming out of "common sense".

      How can you still want to go along with just an opinion, when God is telling you that "Opinions" are so negative, don't you beleive in GOD!!

      God would convey his orders and laws as a content of the book so that every one can read them and follow them.

      Let me ask you what if the word is ambigous and you have no option other then the miracle of ninteen, would you rather listen to hearsay or would you listen to what God has prescribed..

      The word used in 2184-185 according to your colleage has three meaning's "3" "10" or few, there is clear ambiguity about it, he varified it to be "10" based on not Quran but based on decimal system, which has no connection with fasting. All I am doing is clarfying the verses which have been made ambigoius by your colleage, using the miracle of 19..

      Or let me ask you this question. Where does it say in Quran to follow laws derived from mathamatical word counts or hidden codes in Quran?

      The true believers require just a hint to work righteousness, while disbelievers want book with every detail in it..

      The following two verses will prove that I do not follow, my opinion only the word of God;

      The Quran's Common Denominator

      Over it is nineteen.

      We appointed angels to be guardians of Hell, and we assigned their number (19) (1) to disturb the disbelievers, (2) to convince the Christians and Jews (that this is a divine scripture), (3) to strengthen the faith of the faithful, (4) to remove all traces of doubt from the hearts of Christians, Jews, as well as the believers, and (5) to expose those who harbor doubt in their hearts, and the disbelievers; they will say, "What did GOD mean by this allegory?" GOD thus sends astray whomever He wills, and guides whomever He wills. None knows the soldiers of your Lord except He. This is a reminder for the people.

      The function of 19 based codes are clear from above however, let me iterate the point which says ;
      (7431) ..to remove all traces of doubt from the hearts of Christians, Jews, as well as the believers.. and that is exactly the function of the codes which I use, to remove traces of doubt..

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        explorer
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        I want to read the content of the book and undersand it. I will let the content guide my life not the code. However I do see a 19 magic as a miracle.
        That is all I am going to say. Sorry I did not get your point to follow orders coming out of secret code 19. May be I am not as smart. Pray to God that he guides me to the straight path.

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          Over it is nineteen.

          We appointed angels to be guardians of Hell, and we assigned their number (19) (1) to disturb the disbelievers,

          I cannot believe that the people who are operating number Ninteen are "hell fellows' because God has appointed ninteen angels on the Hell as gaurdians.

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            Peace Ijaz, everyone,

            (2187) Here fasting is mentioned, when we take the chapter and verse concatenate with number of days in the year and number of months in the year it is completely multiple of 19.
            2 187 365 12 = 11512448 x 19 and 1279160 / 8 Position 8 clarifies the attribute which is 10 days or month of fasting.
            The above code confirms that the above verse fasting is monthly occurence.
            Now about the 10 days Dr Rashad Khalifa in 2187 acknowledged that those ten days are the last ten days of fast's which in one retreats to the mosque cannot have sexual intercourse.
            This fact is further clarified by the miracle of 19 as below;
            2187 & 891-2, because these verses are unique ie there are no similarities between these verses and other verses in the Quran therefore we can use the verse numbers alone in the code as below;
            187 + 1 + 2 = 190,
            Another confirmation that Dr Rashad Khalifa was right in his assumption above..

            When will you learn that by starting with a preconception and then working backwards you are committing fraud that only ignorants believe in? Just like the ignorant Dr. Khalifa and as typical of numerologists, you are simply manipulating the method until you reach your preconception. Since you are merely making an elaborate circular fantasy to justify your traditional sectarian preconceptions, it is natural that you cannot be guided to anything better than your misguided traditional sectarian preconception.

            How come 2187 is not "unique" in one instance and you take the chapter and verse and then all of a sudden it becomes "unique" and therefore use the verse numbers alone?

            I can easily tell you the reason. The reason is that you TRIED the calculation with the chapter numbers and it DIDN'T give you the 19 divisible that you were looking for.

            Also, a monthly occurence means that it occurs every month and not every year!!!! So even your haphazard conclusion is completely irrelevant. In fact, I guarantee that none of the people who read what you wrote really understood it because it is complete nonsense. You are relying on the hope that people will be blinded by the numbers and your idiotic Code 19 "miracle" and will not question them, much like sectarians rely on "The prophet said" so that no one questions their Hadiths. You are relying on people's need to believe in something superficial in order to believe in the god and his message. Just like 12106 says, they do not believe in the god except while they are associating something with him, in this case a "miraculous" code, which is in reality nothing but a fantasy.

            People, you are smarter than you think so don't be intimidated by Ijaz fancy but idiotic miracles. Your natural god-given instinct that made you feel uneasy about Ijaz's "miracle" is correct. Please use your god-given mind and if you don't understand something, don't assume it is true. When you really understand Code 19 and more importantly 7430-31, then this Code 19 fraud becomes as obvious as someone trying to sell you a big red bridge in San Francisco.

            Peace,

            Ayman

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              ijaz
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              Peace Ijaz, everyone,

              When will you learn that by starting with a preconception and then working backwards you are committing fraud that only ignorants believe in? Just like the ignorant Dr. Khalifa and as typical of numerologists, you are simply manipulating the method until you reach your preconception. Since you are merely making an elaborate circular fantasy to justify your traditional sectarian preconceptions, it is natural that you cannot be guided to anything better than your misguided traditional sectarian preconception.

              How come 2187 is not "unique" in one instance and you take the chapter and verse and then all of a sudden it becomes "unique" and therefore use the verse numbers alone?

              I can easily tell you the reason. The reason is that you TRIED the calculation with the chapter numbers and it DIDN'T give you the 19 divisible that you were looking for.

              Also, a monthly occurence means that it occurs every month and not every year!!!! So even your haphazard conclusion is completely irrelevant. In fact, I guarantee that none of the people who read what you wrote really understood it because it is complete nonsense. You are relying on the hope that people will be blinded by the numbers and your idiotic Code 19 "miracle" and will not question them, much like sectarians rely on "The prophet said" so that no one questions their Hadiths. You are relying on people's need to believe in something superficial in order to believe in the god and his message. Just like 12106 says, they do not believe in the god except while they are associating something with him, in this case a "miraculous" code, which is in reality nothing but a fantasy.

              People, you are smarter than you think so don't be intimidated by Ijaz fancy but idiotic miracles. Your natural god-given instinct that made you feel uneasy about Ijaz's "miracle" is correct. Please use your god-given mind and if you don't understand something, don't assume it is true. When you really understand Code 19 and more importantly 7430-31, then this Code 19 fraud becomes as obvious as someone trying to sell you a big red bridge in San Francisco.

              Peace,

              Ayman

              Ayman,

              Can you explain what you mean by above in simple but few sentences?

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                Allen
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                Ayman,

                Can you explain what you mean by above in simple but few sentences?

                Wow
                I can also claim to be "Rasool of Covenant" .Look at my date of birth ;
                26th of December 1981
                1+9+8+1= 19
                26+12= 38 = 2x19
                It means I have been appointed by God.

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                  ijaz
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                  Wow
                  I can also claim to be "Rasool of Covenant" .Look at my date of birth ;
                  26th of December 1981
                  1+9+8+1= 19
                  26+12= 38 = 2x19
                  It means I have been appointed by God.

                  1981 is a complete entity therefore the digits of that year cannot be added, and I do not understand where you got 12 from, also is your name Dr Rashad Khalifa, because his name was and is coded in the Quran..

                  Unfortunately you are an imposter who is making fun of the miracle of 19 and the Quran, far below, what the messenger should be..

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                    1981 is a complete entity therefore the digits of that year cannot be added,

                    Really?

                    According to the preface of Dr Rashad Khalifa's Translation of the Quran, he said that Quran was revealed between 610 & 632 AD.

                    Present year is 2007 take 632 from it we get 1375, the gv of Quran is 382, when you concatenate this with these number of years we get 382 1375 / 19 = 201125 x 19 or
                    382 1375 / 171 = 22347 / 2, Position 2 confirms the attribute the age of the Quran.

                    The above is the proof that Quran was revealed 1375 years ago, it was already established that some one i.e. me will reveal this information in the year 2007, because 2008 or 2009 are not multiples in that code..

                    Glory be to God

                    Kind Regards

                    Ijaz

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                      ijaz
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                      Really?

                      I think your nickers are in a twist, where am I adding digits of the year..

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                        Elke
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                        Me too yay

                        25 - 9 - 1965

                        2+5=7 - 9 - 1+9+6+5=21=2+1=3

                        7+9+3= 19

                        Yes i too can be considered as a messenger...note that i realized this on my 42 b-day, which is today- so please restrain from insulting me

                        Just to say that manipulating numbers in order to come to a certain conclusion just as biased interpretations of what the number can mean are a very dangerous playground.

                        peace
                        lk

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                          Me too yay

                          25 - 9 - 1965

                          2+5=7 - 9 - 1+9+6+5=21=2+1=3

                          7+9+3= 19

                          Yes i too can be considered as a messenger...note that i realized this on my 42 b-day, which is today- so please restrain from insulting me

                          Just to say that manipulating numbers in order to come to a certain conclusion just as biased interpretations of what the number can mean are a very dangerous playground.

                          peace
                          lk

                          handshake rotfl

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                            Samia
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                            I think your nickers are in a twist, where am I adding digits of the year..

                            Don't scatter your beautiful angugae not just yet

                            It is noteworthy that the date of this fulfillment of the prophets' covenant was Zul-Hijja 3, 1391. If we add the month (12), plus the day (3), plus the year (1391), we get a total of 1406, 19x74. Sura 74 is where the Quran's common denominator, the number 19, is mentioned. Note that the number 1406 is also the number of years from the revelation of the Quran to the revelation of its miracle (Appendix 1).

                            http//www.submission.org/AP02.htm

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                              AaRoN
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                              haha elke is just fishin for people to say happy birthday P

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                                ijaz
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                                Don't scatter your beautiful angugae not just yet

                                It is noteworthy that the date of this fulfillment of the prophets' covenant was Zul-Hijja 3, 1391. If we add the month (12), plus the day (3), plus the year (1391), we get a total of 1406, 19x74. Sura 74 is where the Quran's common denominator, the number 19, is mentioned. Note that the number 1406 is also the number of years from the revelation of the Quran to the revelation of its miracle (Appendix 1).

                                Are you thick or some thing, where are the digits in a year have been added. Month, day and year are entities in its own right, it is perfectly feasable to add these.. brickwall

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                                  savage_carrot
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                                  I think your nickers are in a twist

                                  Are you thick or some thing

                                  3] Respect other users of the forum. Language and/or material of vulgarity, obscenity, harassment, profanity or insulting nature, whether it is direct or suggested, will NOT be tolerated. Any messages containing such language or material will be moved to the trash section or deleted, without notice and may result in disciplinary action being taken against the offending member.

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                                    ijaz
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                                    Me too yay

                                    25 - 9 - 1965

                                    2+5=7 - 9 - 1+9+6+5=21=2+1=3

                                    7+9+3= 19

                                    Yes i too can be considered as a messenger...note that i realized this on my 42 b-day, which is today- so please restrain from insulting me

                                    Just to say that manipulating numbers in order to come to a certain conclusion just as biased interpretations of what the number can mean are a very dangerous playground.

                                    peace
                                    lk

                                    And if we delay the retribution they have incurred - for we reserve it for a specific community - they say, "What is keeping Him?" In fact, once it comes to them, nothing can stop it, and their mocking will come back to haunt them.

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                                      ijaz
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                                      3] Respect other users of the forum. Language and/or material of vulgarity, obscenity, harassment, profanity or insulting nature, whether it is direct or suggested, will NOT be tolerated. Any messages containing such language or material will be moved to the trash section or deleted, without notice and may result in disciplinary action being taken against the offending member.

                                      With all due respect I have heard more bad language by other members on this forum, that is the reason I resorted to this behaviour, I have been called "Idiot" many times by Ayman, but you did not say anything, you gave me impression that it was normal to behave this way, and that the rules me little or nothing..

                                      It seems like the rules only work under certain circumstances..

                                      Kind Regards

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                                        savage_carrot
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                                        It might certainly seem like it, but is not the case from my vantage point. I haven't read where you've been called an idiot, and it might be helpful next time someone calls you something, to let us know by PM or reporting the post via the button. In either case, just because someone else does it, doesn't mean we should do it too. Thanks for understanding.

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                                          Elke
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                                          And if we delay the retribution they have incurred - for we reserve it for a specific community - they say, "What is keeping Him?" In fact, once it comes to them, nothing can stop it, and their mocking will come back to haunt them.

                                          &

                                          Peace ijaz

                                          it's intention that counts and if i had many laughs in this lowly life i never intended to mock god

                                          lk

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