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    tarikh
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    Peace. Can someone enlighten me about how quran is preserved to us, with or without math code. Are all copies of quran based on the oldest copies of quran or is it that God preserves quran by allowing it to be memorized by heart in quranic schools? In which case I wonder why would God allow traditionalists to know quran by heart whilst not understanding and following it?

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      Samia
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      Salaam tarikh and welcome to the forum

      We may not know the truth about how it is preserved, we just know it is, because God promised to.

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        Unless you believe that the Quran is 100% true and from God, statements like "we just know it is" are completely unhelpful.

        We may not know the truth about how it is preserved, we just know it is, because God promised to.

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          TheNabi
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          Peace

          Unless you believe that the Quran is 100% true and from God, statements like "we just know it is" are completely unhelpful.

          Unless you know that she knows that she is not sure you should not make statements like that.

          Tarikh, it is said that only the pure can approach it. Traditionalists take this to mean hygenically pure, but it refers to those who are open to recieving the teaching therein according to its basis. If you want to authenticate these things in the quran to prove their Truth than seek the signs

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            Wakas
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            Peace. Can someone enlighten me about how quran is preserved to us, with or without math code. Are all copies of quran based on the oldest copies of quran or is it that God preserves quran by allowing it to be memorized by heart in quranic schools? In which case I wonder why would God allow traditionalists to know quran by heart whilst not understanding and following it?

            peace tarikh,

            Good question. The author of The Quran was well aware such questions would be asked, thus within itself, it has its own verification mechanisms/procedures. For example, some are shown below

            logical arguments, belief on empirical evidence, based on reason 2258, 2260
            Pursuit of knowledge out with AQ, 4153. 3137 archeology 3190
            science, biology 2920
            esteems knowledge, education, and learning (3528; 379, 4162; 9122;
            1736, 2254; 2740; 2944-49)
            requires objective evidence besides personal experience (386; 2111;
            1226-27; 2124; 4153).
            Actively promotes logical/critical thinking 675-79, 1736

            Unique in-built authentication system/challenge ? a way to prove
            itself. 4153, 482, 1038

            All information is correct to the best of my knowledge only and thus should not be taken as a fact. One should always seek knowledge and verify for themselves when possible: 17:36, 20:114, 35:28, 49:6, 58:11.

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              peace tarikh,

              Good question. The author of The Quran was well aware such questions would be asked, thus within itself, it has its own verification mechanisms/procedures. For example, some are shown below

              logical arguments, belief on empirical evidence, based on reason 2258, 2260
              Pursuit of knowledge out with AQ, 4153. 3137 archeology 3190
              science, biology 2920
              esteems knowledge, education, and learning (3528; 379, 4162; 9122;
              1736, 2254; 2740; 2944-49)
              requires objective evidence besides personal experience (386; 2111;
              1226-27; 2124; 4153).
              Actively promotes logical/critical thinking 675-79, 1736

              Unique in-built authentication system/challenge ? a way to prove
              itself. 4153, 482, 1038

              -Hadith says it is true wording of Prophet ,is this sufficient for its authenticity ??

              -Quran says it is word of God ,is this sufficient for its authenticity ?

              -Allen himself says that he is a pious person ,is this statement authentic for him and accepted in court of law?

              -Ghulam Ahmed Qadiani says that he is a Prophet of God 'is this authentic ?

              -RK says that is Rasool of Covenant ,Is this authentic ?

              -How can a statement of X is authenticated for X ?

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                Wakas
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                Wakas himself says that he is a pious person ,is this statement authentic for him and accepted in court of law?

                Allen, if you were citing a theoretical/hypothetical example, then please state so, as I did not say the above.

                All information is correct to the best of my knowledge only and thus should not be taken as a fact. One should always seek knowledge and verify for themselves when possible: 17:36, 20:114, 35:28, 49:6, 58:11.

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                  Allen
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                  Wakas himself says that he is a pious person ,is this statement authentic for him and accepted in court of law?

                  Allen, if you were citing a theoretical/hypothetical example, then please state so, as I did not say the above.

                  I changed Wakas to Allen

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