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So What do you think God is?

Scheduled Pinned Locked Moved What is the nature of God?
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    jonny_k
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    Peace all,
    Alright i have to make a correction here. GOD is the sum of infinite no of quantum flux/particles ALIGNED IN A UNIQUE WAY OVER AN INFINTE AMOUNT OF TIME, the Ultimate Quantum Network so to say Who can control each and everything. Hence yes even if some light could be caught by black holes if you have an infinite amount of quantum flux or even a part of a unique intelligent combination of it approaching it, theres no chance for even a black hole. The Supreme Quantum Network could handle it with infinitesimal ease, put it out of order or anything. So yes all the creation was once part of GOD but was then differentiated/created/separated into what is now independent in a certain sense but still dependent in another. GOD Bless!

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      So what you're saying is, that "God" is a "network" of "light" and the way this "network" changes itself becomes "the actions of God". Am I right? That's pantheism. Creation as creator. Definitely plausible but the quran disagrees. Even light has a beginning.

      God is said to be all-knowing. If God is "light" then God can't have any knowledge about a black hole or its insides because anything coming out of a black hole will have no information. In other words, God won't even know what part of God is doing or has done.

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        Peace "OPF",

        So what you're saying is, that "God" is a "network" of "light" and the way this "network" changes itself becomes "the actions of God". Am I right? That's pantheism. Creation as creator. Definitely plausible but the quran disagrees. Even light has a beginning.

        JK- 1st pantheism is the idea that each and everything(or the sum of everything) is GOD which is ofcourse false IMO. Also i made a mistake by saying that the sum of everything is GOD because that is differentiated after all. GOD is the Unique Supreme Network of Light yes and that is not pantheism anymore. 2ndly LIGHT DOES NOT HAVE A BEGINNING. Qunatum Flux was ALWAYS THERE.

        God is said to be all-knowing. If God is "light" then God can't have any knowledge about a black hole or its insides because anything coming out of a black hole will have no information. In other words, God won't even know what part of God is doing or has done.

        JK- I said it depends on how strong the substance is. What if another more powerful black hole approaches a weaker black hole? And yes both have extreme mass/volume density and both consist of ultimately quantum particles. And the Supreme Quantum Network would grasp everything. GOD Bless!

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          Daud-19
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          He is too big to explain...

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            huruf
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            God is for us unconceivable, all we can say is something about Him, but not what He is, we cannot conceive it. We find our limits first. We may know how He manisfests himself, we know of Him what he lets us through his attributes and His mark in the Creation. So how how can we believe in something that we don't know what it is? Through His manifestation, which is also as manifest as we are capable each one of us to conceive it, either giving it a name as such or without labelling it. And everything worships God through his atributes.

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              Zulf
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              and at the same time, we are not supposed to associate anything with God... so God is like nothing we know of or have experienced... or maybe that's just my understanding of the english words... i don't know what the arabic words could convey...

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                and at the same time, we are not supposed to associate anything with God... so God is like nothing we know of or have experienced... or maybe that's just my understanding of the english words... i don't know what the arabic words could convey...

                this is very true... it is a challenge to not associate somehow our imaginings with Allah. but He has given us signs all around us that we can know He exists... alhamdulillah. may we be able to see them.

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                  How about associating emotions with GOD?

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                    ayani
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                    pvb ~ that's a good question. if we follow the Quran in its descriptions of God, it describes God as "merciful", "wise", "all-knowing" etc. but these would be more attributes, not changing emotions or moods like a person would have. that is how i understand it, at least.

                    not like a changing TV screen, more like the sides of a many-sided die.

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                      John 4

                      24God is spirit, and his worshipers must worship in spirit and in truth."

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                        No I was thinking more along the lines of love, fear, fear, sadness, anger, happiness, surprise, ambivalence, etc.

                        GOD is LOVE.

                        A loving GOD is merciful.

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