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What does this phrase " صاحب الحوت " mean in ??

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    Allen
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    Peace Allen,

    I'm confused. I gave you those definitions because I took this "Arnold Yasin said that Jonah was bitten be a Shark.Is to be bitten by an animal can be considered to be "buddy/friend".?? Just curious" to mean that you were a bit puzzled over how a fish can be friends with someone it bit, and vice versa. Did I interpret you wrong?

    Just say where you're going with this. What are you trying to prove?

    Nadeem

    you are confused because you did not read the thread properly It was Nun de Plume who said

    Literally means ? the fish?s buddy.

    I replied as

    Thanks
    you mean " a friend of fish" ?/
    Who was he??

    Do you notice my question marks ??

    He again quoted some Quranic verses

    Yes, by cross reference the same fellow/companion mentioned in 2187 Dhun-N?n...

    (&#1639

    2739

    (&#1641

    And, verily, Y?nus (Jonah) was one of the Messengers

    I replied

    Arnold Yasin said that Jonah was bitten be a Shark.Is to be bitten by an animal can be considered to be "buddy/friend".?? Just curious

    Again my question marks.Where from did you conclude this about which you are confused.

    Now I am going with your "Some Link" theory which says that biting means "Saahib" or Any sort of Link means " Saahib" .

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      unknownuser
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      you are confused because you did not read the thread properly It was Nun de Plume who said

      To clarify; there are different types of buddies...

      (&#1632
      Wanada ashabu alnari ashaba aljannati?
      750 And the fire's company/friends called/cried (to) the Paradises' company/friends

      (&#1641
      Ya sahibayi alssijni
      1239 You my two companions/friends (of) the prison/jail,

      (&#1633
      bi-as-habi alfeeli
      1051 ?the elephant's owners/company/friends?

      6848 is similar to 1239 and 1051 above (i.e. buddies by association).

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        siki
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        Brother Allen

        I think Nadeem has provided you a very logical explanation of "Sahib" and i totally agree with him.

        siki

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          unknownuser
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          Omar Abdul Mannan is a great "Cheater".Just one example
          Under the word he discusses the "iltaqama" and say
          Took into mouth (without swallowing).
          By specifying "without swallowing" in parenthesis ,he wants to give the impression there is no meaning of swallowing in this word.

          Now look at "Lane's Lexicon under same heading of "Iltaqama" .He says

          8See 1

          it means "Iltaqama "has the same meaning as the verb form "1" (or heading "1"i.e Laqima"
          Now if we look at Laqima ,it says

          Laqima luqmatan

          ,He swallowed the gobbet;

          I agree iltaqama does mean to put something in mouth but it does not mean at all that it does not contain the meaning of swallowing.
          In summary
          Iltaqama = to put something in mouth
          Iltaqama = to put something in mouth and swallow it quickly.

          Confirm through Lane's Lexicon

          The same meaning is put in other Arabic dictionaries

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          May I ask you why he needed to specify that "iltaqama " does not involve swallowing.
          Is this not intellectual cheating ??
          I hate such cheater because they some preconceived ,fabricated ideas in mind and they interpret the things accordingly.

          Here you are correct, most expressions in brackets convey deceit on the part of the author.

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            Mazhar
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            "Sahib" is also used to reflect/refer for "resident of". Residence also creates a reference of "association"/"associate".

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              Aladin_Azra
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              SaaHib-ul-Hooti means whaler, whale-hunter.

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                Aladin_Azra
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                Saahib is one who's life or movement is stick to somebody or some place. It can mean "a companion" of somebody, or "a resident" of some place. I think it's more correct generally to understand this as "one who's spending life or moves with somebody or in some place". It's not an adjective, but active participle, so it's not prolonged, lasts only under a certain conditions (i.e. Saahiba is a wife - one who's living with husband - while marriage lasts). If el-Hoot is "a fish" or "a whale", then it's one who was spending his life with or within it, but I think it's about a jail on a ship he was on.

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