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why so many sects?

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    Samia
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    A consensus of ignorance, created by men, implemented by sheep.

    Who wouldn't conceed to your consensus when the punishment for dissent is death.

    Have you ever though how empty your rituals are

    Your 5 prayer don't put food in starving's stomach even once.
    And you rukka and sajood provides no love or support to the orphans.
    Your millions at Hajj don't save women from socities that treat them worse than animals.
    Point your face towards kabba, and turn your backs on women forced into prostitution and children into slavery.

    Rejoice in your consensus, which elects corrupt leaders and politicans, who feed the rich and screw the poor,
    that allowed a foreign army to march half way across the world and silence a million voices.

    Keep your face sternly towards kabba, don't ever turn around see reality.

    bravo bravo

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      mz
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      A consensus of ignorance, created by men, implemented by sheep.

      Who wouldn't conceed to your consensus when the punishment for dissent is death.

      Have you ever though how empty your rituals are

      Your 5 prayer don't put food in starving's stomach even once.
      And you rukka and sajood provides no love or support to the orphans.
      Your millions at Hajj don't save women from socities that treat them worse than animals.
      Point your face towards kabba, and turn your backs on women forced into prostitution and children into slavery.

      Rejoice in your consensus, which elects corrupt leaders and politicans, who feed the rich and screw the poor,
      that allowed a foreign army to march half way across the world and silence a million voices.

      Keep your face sternly towards kabba, don't ever turn around see reality.

      Sorry to say- just loved the way it's put.

      God Bless All.

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        SatanHatesMe
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        A consensus of ignorance, created by men, implemented by sheep.
        Your 5 prayer don't put food in starving's stomach even once.
        And you rukka and sajood provides no love or support to the orphans.
        Your millions at Hajj don't save women from socities that treat them worse than animals.
        Point your face towards kabba, and turn your backs on women forced into prostitution and children into slavery.

        Rejoice in your consensus, which elects corrupt leaders and politicans, who feed the rich and screw the poor,
        that allowed a foreign army to march half way across the world and silence a million voices.

        Keep your face sternly towards kabba, don't ever turn around see reality.

        Here is the GREAT question Nerspi that truly puzzles me. Those who accuse others of not following the quran alone and having "consensus of ignorance" are normally the most divided. Those who say submitters have no foundation while they read the same book are the most divided. That is what really confuses me.

        Why is it that those you argument against salat, against hajj, against zakat from it traditional understanding are the most divided. why is that? why if they follow on book, that claims to be easy and for the sincere, yet they cant EVEN agree on simply things like what salat is, what hajj is, what zakat is and how to implement these things? why is that?

        How come those who claim and accuse other of not following "only" the koran are the most divided. They accuse others of not possessing that knowledge of the Koran and have consensus on ignorance, yet they are MORE divided than any other "sect" AMONG THEMSSLEVES?!? To me that is the true division. FIVE YEARS ago there was a debate on what salat is was and should be within that group. NOW five years later, no one have any solid proof to convince anyone within the group. And it seem to me every year they become more divided on the issues. Yet you criticizes others for unity and consensus. Yet you accuse others of having "consensus of ignorance" while they are "divided with ignorance."

        It blows my minds how the accusers accues others of ignorance yet rejoice in there over their division, no consensus, ad ignorance on issues. Who is truly the ignorant one?

        salat rukku and sajood may not full my stomach, but it helps me remember GOD (2014).
        Hajj may not be about woman oppression and animal mistreatment, but is benefits the soul(2197).
        Facing the kabba may not make me face prostitution and child slavery, but it unifies the submitters (2150).

        According to the Koran, these things have value and a specific purpose. DONT try in a sad attempt to make it look like the purpose of these things goes against important issue like women oppression, orphans, slavery, war etc. Its an insult to intelligence and basic common sense.

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          Bigmo
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          Here is the GREAT question Nerspi that truly puzzles me. Those who accuse others of not following the quran alone and having "consensus of ignorance" are normally the most divided. Those who say submitters have no foundation while they read the same book are the most divided. That is what really confuses me.

          Why is it that those you argument against salat, against hajj, against zakat from it traditional understanding are the most divided. why is that? why if they follow on book, that claims to be easy and for the sincere, yet they cant EVEN agree on simply things like what salat is, what hajj is, what zakat is and how to implement these things? why is that?

          How come those who claim and accuse other of not following "only" the koran are the most divided. They accuse others of not possessing that knowledge of the Koran and have consensus on ignorance, yet they are MORE divided than any other "sect" AMONG THEMSSLEVES?!? To me that is the true division. FIVE YEARS ago there was a debate on what salat is was and should be within that group. NOW five years later, no one have any solid proof to convince anyone within the group. And it seem to me every year they become more divided on the issues. Yet you criticizes others for unity and consensus. Yet you accuse others of having "consensus of ignorance" while they are "divided with ignorance."

          It blows my minds how the accusers accues others of ignorance yet rejoice in there over their division, no consensus, ad ignorance on issues. Who is truly the ignorant one?

          salat rukku and sajood may not full my stomach, but it helps me remember GOD (2014).
          Hajj may not be about woman oppression and animal mistreatment, but is benefits the soul(2197).
          Facing the kabba may not make me face prostitution and child slavery, but it unifies the submitters (2150).

          According to the Koran, these things have value and a specific purpose. DONT try in a sad attempt to make it look like the purpose of these things goes against important issue like women oppression, orphans, slavery, war etc. Its an insult to intelligence and basic common sense.

          Different salaat ways does not mean division. Real divisions is when each believes the other ways to pray is not valid and not accepted. Real division means I am right and you are wrong. I am a Muslim and you are not. There is different ways we give charity and we do zikr. It does not mean there is division.

          Yes some here attack Sunnis and insult their ways. But not all. Sunnis problem is they think they have all the answers straight from the prophet. But I still believe the people here are far more tolerant and accepting of pluralism than any community of Sunnis. 5 years ago there might have been extremism but I think many here have now accepted that there is many ways to God and there is a wisdom in the Koran for leaving room for different interpretation.

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