What can be considered shirk?
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The same as for the person who considers hadith more than Qur?an and atheists will be the greatest losers.
274-5 Verily, those who believe not in the Hereafter, We have made their deeds fair-seeming to them, so that they wander about blindly. They are those for whom there will be an evil torment. And in the Hereafter they will be the greatest losers.
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Mathematical proof
What do these numbers tell ??Rashid = =
200+1+300+4= 505 = 5+0+5=10=1+0= 1
Shaitaan =
300+10+9+1+50=370=3+7+0=10=1+0=1Theory of 19
= 1+9 = 10=1+0 = 1
The earth was purified from him in 1990
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Peace Zerda,
I really like the reply that brother Wakas has given to you. As he already stated, it requires a little more work to do the research but the understanding of the concept will be more solid that way.
If you wish to read an article that sums it up and is strictly Quranic based then I'd recommend This Article
I for one pay particular attention to the last two examples given concerning divisionism (3031-32) and failing to establish Zakat/bring forth betterment (416-7).
Salaam,
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Mathematical proof
What do these numbers tell ??Rashid = =
200+1+300+4= 505 = 5+0+5=10=1+0= 1
Shaitaan =
300+10+9+1+50=370=3+7+0=10=1+0=1Theory of 19
= 1+9 = 10=1+0 = 1
The earth was purified from him in 1990
=1+9+9+0 = 19 =1+9 =10 =1+0=1Anyone care to tell me
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Where these numbers came from?
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How this relates to the article?
Anyway, I originally came here to say that this word (shirk) is heavily overused, and it seems the different sects of islam are shooting this at each other. Quite funny seeing how the only people who aren't associating others with God are the submitters (or Quran-only muslims).
What gets me though is this. You'll hear a hadithist state that any "sahih" hadith must be taken as long as it doesn't contradict the Quran.
What is his definition of "contradict" in this case, you and I wonder? Let's take a look.
You'll also hear from him that anything is halal (ok) as long as the Quran and/or the Hadith don't prohibit it. Gee, I guess just about everything is prohibited then, because when you're not allowed to listen to music, look at pictures, or imitate the disbelievers in any way shape or form or in their actions, just what the hell can you do besides acts of worship? nope
Regarding the above, if for instance I say that eating bananas is haram, he's going to say it contradicts the hadith and/or the Quran, because they don't prohibit it.
ok...
By this person's logic then, anything that the hadith prohibits that the Quran doesn't, is in clear contradiction to the Quran.
Yet he says if I say something is haram and the hadith/Quran don't say it is, my words are in contradiction. Funny, isn't it?
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Peace,
When Abraham got sick, didn't he wait for God to heal him?
2680 "And when I am ill, it is He Who cures me''
Does this mean seeking medicine is shirk?? What a doctor will do God can't do? If not why bother praying to God??
Peace,
Rami
And Abraham would say the same about being fed and clothed. Does that mean he expects God to spoon feed him?
Shirk, as I understand it is the believe in more than one God. Some people see it as elevating anything to a "god like" status. This is very vague and subjective and I believe its not what the Koran is talking about although this is a great sin as the Koran says
104.1-3 Woe to every (kind of) scandal-monger and-backbiter, Who pileth up wealth and layeth it by, Thinking that his wealth would make him last for ever!
However shirk in the Koran as I see it is
23.91. No son did Allah beget, nor is there any god along with Him (if there were many gods), behold, each god would have taken away what he had created, and some would have lorded it over others! Glory to Allah. (He is free) from the (sort of) things they attribute to Him!
Notice how some believe different gods created different things in the universe while others may believe one god creates the others runs it's affairs.
Some people also say "practicing shirk". I don't think you practice shirk, shirk is a belief system, you believe in shirk. You then worship the other gods as per your belief. Shirk is a theological belief. Its not something that is done simply by practicing. You can have a statue at your house but it means nothing. You can even bow to it and it still means nothing. Its when you worship it as a god then thats shirk. That only happens if you have shirk beliefs. The angels bowed to Adam and prostrated and Jospeh's brothers did the same to Joseph. But they did not belief Joseph was a god. Shirk as I see it is a aqeedah.
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Mathematical proof
What do these numbers tell ??Rashid = =
200+1+300+4= 505 = 5+0+5=10=1+0= 1
Shaitaan =
300+10+9+1+50=370=3+7+0=10=1+0=1Theory of 19
= 1+9 = 10=1+0 = 1
The earth was purified from him in 1990
=1+9+9+0 = 19 =1+9 =10 =1+0=1Peace ;
WOW ,wonderful coincidence.
Regards -
Someone can once again tell me what those numbers represent (the upper half) and where they came from, and I can simply say he was done bringing his message (the true one) by 1990 having fought Satan, instead of saying filth left the Earth at 1990. What was his message? Was it his translation of the Quran? No. It's the original Quran in Arabic that is the true Quran, after all. His message was 1. Worship God alone, 2. Believe in the Quran alone, 3. Nothing else. And if you call that a coincidence, it then means nothing, because it's just a "coincidence". It's funny how RK haters try to use his code against him, yet their findings with it will never amount to the things RK came up with. Truly something laugh
I originally came here to say that WHAT TF is up with all these attacks, criticisms and hostility between sects? Not much of sects actually it's more like 90% sunnis verses 9% shias and 1% Quran-only muslims.
I effin hate this bs! Why would someone go to hell if they literally tried to follow the path they thought was the right one and never had evil in their heart?? They still worship ONE God, even if their ways of life are different and they disagree about what is haram and what is halal. So what if someone doesn't accept hadith? What if someone was told a hadith wasn't authentic and thus he didn't believe in it, yet it was something the prophet ACTUALLY SAID back then? They will tell you well, he was told it wasn't authentic, so it's not his fault.
Ok, so when I'm reading many articles talking about
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How the hadith is unreliable
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Plagiarized from the bible
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Go against the Quran that describes itself as fully detailed
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Puts women on the level of dogs and asses despite the Quran honoring them
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Etc.
I'm nonetheless guilty? Notice the double-standard. It is the exact same if you think about it. A person doesn't believe a hadith because scholars agreed amongst themselves that it wasn't sahih. You will here from some saying however if the majority agree that a hadith is right, than it is right! That's stupid because consider for instance if the majority population of human beings were nonbelievers. Will we have to accept the most popular belief? Which is there's no god? No.
God doesn't trick, the devil tricks. The devil is the one that makes you follow vain desires and lusts like killing innocents (just because they're not muslims) and raping women (again, just because they're not muslims, or because they're your wives or slaves). HOW DOES SOMEONE DO THIS WITH AN EVIL-FREE, PIOUS HEART? It is impossible. This is what is meant by the devil tricks. God will not be tricking you if you thought saying "Muhammad is God's messenger" in the shahada is an obligation, because there's no evil in your heart when you do this, and God knows you are not associating partners with him! Similarly, he will not be tricking you if you thought letting your beard grow is an obligation. In fact, he doesn't ever trick, it's the Shaitan who tricks, and when the Shaitan tricks, he plants arrogance/evil inside of you. This is the most logical explanation it seems, at least to me.
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Shirk in the Koran is the belief in more than one God.
There is more to it than that. It is also shirk if you call on other people in your prayers/mention their names. Eg. when you call on Muhammad in your prayers you are commiting shirk, when you recite the at-tahiyatu and sunni shahada you are commiting shirk (and also, by reciting the sunni shahada you are favoring Muhammad over other messengers).
When you prohibit other things than God has, such as dietary restrictions it is shirk, etc.
Peace