'Second Earth' found, 20 light years away
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A satellite will take forever. Also I'm not sure how long it will take for the messages to be transmitted back to earth from that distance. Some of us might have forgotten about the satellites mission before anything ever gets back.
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That was more of a joke. If I am correct, 20 light years = 20 years at the speed of light. Speed of light is 186,000 miles per second. I came to about 5.7 trillion miles in one year. Multiply that by 20 and you get....too big of a number to even count P Also, since we arent even close to the speed of light, it would take 1000s if not millions of years to even reach it if Im correct.
The wonders of Allah. Alhamduillah.
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it can tale less then 1000s or millions of years, it can take half an hour if approached correctly.
1000 years ago it took days or weeks even months to travel from country to country or to another continent, now we do it in a few hours.
with years technology gets better, we may find a way to get to this planet faster.
but there already exists a possibility to get there even faster, having an out of body experience really makes journeys faster.
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Peace "nerspi" and all,
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it can tale less then 1000s or millions of years, it can take half an hour if approached correctly.
1000 years ago it took days or weeks even months to travel from country to country or to another continent, now we do it in a few hours.
with years technology gets better, we may find a way to get to this planet faster.
but there already exists a possibility to get there even faster, having an out of body experience really makes journeys faster.
i think that's one of ways to do it.JK- There are only two ways to travel or in the first case reach the planet within our life time. 1) Time dilation Here all of us humans who wanna wtach the planet in our lifetime need to hop on a spaceship which would keep approaching the speed of light and thus speeding up the outside time in space as relative to ours. Hence although the disctance is 20 light yrs, our bodies would expeirence them as less. 2) Warp drive This is a fictional method in which a subspace bubble is created which kinna bends space-time and allows for FTL "travel" without causing time dilation between travellers and those left behind. It would be very effective if it works. GOD Bless!
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Peace "nerspi" and all,
JK- There are only two ways to travel or in the first case reach the planet within our life time. 1) Time dilation Here all of us humans who wanna wtach the planet in our lifetime need to hop on a spaceship which would keep approaching the speed of light and thus speeding up the outside time in space as relative to ours. Hence although the disctance is 20 light yrs, our bodies would expeirence them as less. 2) Warp drive This is a fictional method in which a subspace bubble is created which kinna bends space-time and allows for FTL "travel" without causing time dilation between travellers and those left behind. It would be very effective if it works. GOD Bless!
The warp drive seems more feasible. Reason being is that if we did go at the speed of light, we would be torn apart without a protection and inertia canceller Star Trek has done wonders.
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JK- There are only two ways to travel
why do you say that?
what you're describing is travel with our physical bodies, why, we're gonna lose them after a few decades anyway, lets focus on our spiritual side, our soul, part of us that is eternal. that way we can experience more, travel great distances, reach our highest potential... there's so much out there man, it'd be a shame if we didn't (even try to) see it. -
Peace bro "nerspi",
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why do you say that?
what you're describing is travel with our physical bodies, why, we're gonna lose them after a few decades anyway, lets focus on our spiritual side, our soul, part of us that is eternal. that way we can experience more, travel great distances, reach our highest potential... there's so much out there man, it'd be a shame if we didn't (even try to) see it.JK- Could you define what you mean by spiritual please? What is "spiritual" stuff made up off and how does it interact with what is called matter? GOD Bless!
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Peace "nerspi" and all,
JK- There are only two ways to travel or in the first case reach the planet within our life time. 1) Time dilation Here all of us humans who wanna wtach the planet in our lifetime need to hop on a spaceship which would keep approaching the speed of light and thus speeding up the outside time in space as relative to ours. Hence although the disctance is 20 light yrs, our bodies would expeirence them as less. 2) Warp drive This is a fictional method in which a subspace bubble is created which kinna bends space-time and allows for FTL "travel" without causing time dilation between travellers and those left behind. It would be very effective if it works. GOD Bless!
Warp drive? I thought that was star trek fantasy, actually I know nothing about it, how a warp engine works. I thought nothing can be faster than the speed of light, we can bend the rules though. What about using a hypothetical wormhole/Einstien-Rosen bridge, jumping from one point in space to another, it's not superluminal (faster-than-light) space travel, but would seem that way since, it's simply taking a short cut. The time in which the distance was traveled would appear faster than it would take light to make the journey through normal space.
A wormhole in string theory can be made by cutting and putting together two spacetimes allowing a low-energy string equations with a dilaton field. In spacetimes described by the `string metric', the dilaton energy-momentum tensor need not satisfy the weak or dominant energy conditions. In the cases considered here the dilaton field violates these energy conditions and is the source of the exotic matter required to maintain the wormhole.
But for now, wormholes are mostly speculation and theoretical physics.
I think string theory is a lot more interesting than a planet light years away, string theory suggest our universe is just one of zillions of alternate, invisible -- perhaps even inhabited -- universes where the laws of physics are radically different. Sting theory also suggests of time travel. It's all Mind boggling to me.
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You have to remember that light (or something as fast as it ;D) itself percieves no time, going from one end of the universe to the other is instantaneous. Of course, you might be slightly late for that intergalactic business meeting p
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Peace "rumi",
Your correct i should have formulated it differently. What i meant is to reach objects which are say a light yr away in lesser time relative to us than we observe light going there at rest. Yes i know as we start to approach the speed of light, time starts to dilate, meaning that although we do continue to exprience the same acceleration for ever, the speed is now the time dilation factor itself between the outside world at "rest" and us travelling at near ls. Hence time slows dowen for us wrt everythinjg outside and we sort of "reach" the objects in our lifetimes whilst other huamsn have long died. Then theres the space-time bending and there i shld have out "trvelling" in commas for yes its not real travel in the classical sense. GOD Bless! -
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Peace bro "nerspi",
JK- Could you define what you mean by spiritual please? What is "spiritual" stuff made up off and how does it interact with what is called matter? GOD Bless!
1529 "So when I perfect him, and blow of My Spirit in him, you shall yield to him."
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Peace "nerspi",
One meaning of the word "rooh" can be "energy" thus GOD directly connected with the neural network of the homo sapien brain whilst it was evolved enough. This was and is still to some extent my opinion of what i call the neuro-quantum interface.
Also lookthe word up at http//www.studyquran.co.uk/PRLonline.htm (search for "ruhun"
It can also mean "vital principle/inspiration" and that would also fit 1529. GOD Bless! -
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3942 God seizes the souls at the time of their death; and for those that have not died, during their sleep. He then keeps those that have been overtaken by death, and He sends the others back until a predetermined time. In that are signs for a people who will think.
well i don't know what the soul is actually made of but that's what i meant by spiritual, our soul, the energy inside of this body, the part of us that will leave this physical body when time comes (death). but from the verse we can see it also happens when we sleep, which has also been proven to be true by thousands of people, one of the signs is people feeling like they're floating during sleep, feeling like they slam back down to the body when they wake up, and in many cases actually seeing one's (physical) body on the bed (sure, you, like many sceptics, will say it's just imagination or something where people remember the image of one's face in the mirror and see it on the body on the bed... whatever).
the fact is that many people have obe, some wrote books on it, some have been studying them for years, even decades, they brought proof but it'll never be enough for you until you either experience it yourself or see a proof that you're comfortable with.http//www.youtube.com/watch?v=_6Dp4ES-J9w
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Peace "nerspi",
What you state regarding OBEs has NOT been proven under any controlled conditions, just mere stories and belief very much the same way people believe in Jesus being GOD, that the lochness monster really exists, creation science, psychic abilities, astrology, etc, etc. Im still waiting for the evidence. You said you are going to try out an experiment yourself using the controls we discussed. Why dont you do that and tell me of your results? GOD Bless! -
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there is a lochness... "monster", plus there is such thing as psychic ability. we all sometimes have it, i had is, well, not ability but certain moments where i saw into the future, my mom can also do it.
they (obe) were proven, just not under controled conditions that you're ok with.
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Peace "nerspi",
What you state regarding OBEs has NOT been proven under any controlled conditions, just mere stories and belief very much the same way people believe in Jesus being GOD, that the lochness monster really exists, creation science, psychic abilities, astrology, etc, etc. Im still waiting for the evidence. You said you are going to try out an experiment yourself using the controls we discussed. Why dont you do that and tell me of your results? GOD Bless!I'm with nerspi on this one as I've experienced OBE(out of body experience or astral projection as some people refer it to).
Just because something hasn't been proven YET automatically doesn't mean it isn't true.
I'm sure there are some beliefs that you believe in that haven't been "proven" under controlled conditions.
Why not have a stance of being "agnostic" with stuff instead of out right denying it.
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Peace "2pac",
I'm with nerspi on this one as I've experienced OBE(out of body experience or astral projection as some people refer it to).
Just because something hasn't been proven YET automatically doesn't mean it isn't true.
I'm sure there are some beliefs that you believe in that haven't been "proven" under controlled conditions.
Why not have a stance of being "agnostic" with stuff instead of out right denying it.
PEACE
JK- Because for this in particular and other paranormal claims James Randi has been offering a one million USD challenge for years now and nobody has passed even the preliminary test where the odds are way more in the favor of the paranormal claimants. Doesnt sound very reasonable to still remain agnostic on this issue when the chances are astronomically small that these phenomena would be true. GOD Bless!
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Peace "2pac",
JK- Because for this in particular and other paranormal claims James Randi has been offering a one million USD challenge for years now and nobody has passed even the preliminary test where the odds are way more in the favor of the paranormal claimants. Doesnt sound very reasonable to still remain agnostic on this issue when the chances are astronomically small that these phenomena would be true. GOD Bless!
So in the near future if scientists have enough evidence to support obe/astral projection then it no longer remains paranormal?? Its funny how people run away from "paranormal" ideas because its not been proven YET. I'm not saying people should believe but be agnostic and experience or try to first hand before knocking it on the head because the scientific society have deemed it paranormal and not the norm!
Would you then care to prove to James Randi that the afterlife of a new universe is a "fact" and get that million dollar since science hasn't proven the afterlife of a new universe exisiting after this universe. New universe after this one when u die? "Paranormal" or "scientific" you tell me because to me an afterlife/new universe is very paranormal to me!
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So in the near future if scientists have enough evidence to support obe/astral projection then it no longer remains paranormal?? Its funny how people run away from "paranormal" ideas because its not been proven YET. I'm not saying people should believe but be agnostic and experience or try to first hand before knocking it on the head because the scientific society have deemed it paranormal and not the norm!
Would you then care to prove to James Randi that the afterlife of a new universe is a "fact" and get that million dollar since science hasn't proven the afterlife of a new universe exisiting after this universe. New universe after this one when u die? "Paranormal" or "scientific" you tell me because to me an afterlife/new universe is very paranormal to me!
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Actually Stephen Hawking proposed an afterlife of sorts. Except that it's very, very, literally, an afterlife in an afterworld in an afteruniverse. So there is a small but existant visible likelihood of it being true. So a new universe would be as mundane as mundane gets - provided he's correct.
As for paranormal, pfft.
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Actually Stephen Hawking proposed an afterlife of sorts. Except that it's very, very, literally, an afterlife in an afterworld in an afteruniverse. So there is a small but existant visible likelihood of it being true. So a new universe would be as mundane as mundane gets - provided he's correct.
As for paranormal, pfft.
Can you explain to me how he got to this conclusion or do you believe him because he's Stephen Hawking (no offence to him with him being genius and all that)?
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