"Ma Malakat Aymnakum", who are they?
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Reference, my lost post on topic , "problems with the reformist translation"
Brother Edip , kashaad, and any one else interested, lets have a detailed dialogue/debate, and sort out this important topic.
(Edip! I personally request you to spare some time and help us reach some logical conclusion regarding this issue)
siki
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An-Nur 30?33, in the course of laying down the familiar dress code of Islam, explains that women "should draw their veils over their bosoms and not display their beauty" except to various familiar people, including those "whom their right hands possess". Al-Ahzab 55 makes it explicit that the same liberty is given to the Prophet's wives.
An-Nur 58 says that "those whom your right hands possess" and underage children should ask a believer's permission (before they come to their presence) at the three times of day when one is likely to be undressed.
They should not be forced into prostitution if they desire chastity
An-Nur 2433 states, ... But force not your maids to prostitution when they desire chastity, in order that ye may make a gain in the goods of this life. But if anyone compels them, yet, after such compulsion, is Allah, Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful (to the one being forced),"Being good to them
An-Nisa 36 reminds us that a believer should do good to a variety of people, including "what your right hands possess".an-Nahl 71 and ar-Rum 28 both use the same metaphor just as the fortunate among people do not share their wealth with "those whom their right hands possess" to the point of making them equals, nor fear them as they fear each other, so does God with people, bestowing more on some than others, but never making them equals, let alone fearing them.
Also (prohibited are) women already married, except those whom your right hands possess Thus hath Allah ordained (Prohibitions) against you Except for these, all others are lawful, provided ye seek (them in marriage) with gifts from your property,- desiring chastity, not lust, seeing that ye derive benefit from them, give them their dowers (at least) as prescribed; but if, after a dower is prescribed, agree Mutually (to vary it), there is no blame on you, and Allah is All-knowing, All-wise.
Muhamad Asad notes that for the expression ma malakat aymanukum ("those whom your right hands possess", i.e., "those whom you rightfully possess", it is often taken to mean female captives can be taken in marriage irrespective of whether they have husbands in the country of their origin or not. Despite the differences of opinion, even among the Companions of the Prophet, regarding the legality of such a marriage, Razi in his commentary on this verse, and Tabari in one of his alternative explanations (going back to ?Abd Allah ibn ?Abbas, Mujahid, and others) hold the view that ma malakat aymanukum denotes here "women whom you rightfully possess through wedlock".
If any of you have not the means wherewith to wed free believing women, they may wed believing girls from among those whom your right hands possess And Allah hath full knowledge about your faith. Ye are one from another Wed them with the leave of their owners, and give them their dowers, according to what is reasonable They should be chaste, not lustful, nor taking paramours when they are taken in wedlock, if they fall into shame, their punishment is half that for free women. This (permission) is for those among you who fear sin; but it is better for you that ye practise self-restraint. And Allah is Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful.
Ibn Kathir notes that "(This is for him among you who is afraid of being harmed in his religion or in his body indicates that marrying slave girls, providing one satisfies the required conditions, is for those who fear for their chastity and find it hard to be patient and refrain from sex."Ibn Kathir comments "(not fornicators) referring to dishonorable women, who do not refrain from illicit sexual relations with those who ask. Ibn `Abbas said that the fornicating women are the whores, who do not object to having relations with whomever seeks it"
Ibn Kathir comments "(nor promiscuous) refers to taking boyfriends. Similar was said by Abu Hurayrah, Mujahid, Ash-Sha
bi, Ad-Dahhak,Ata' Al-Khurasani, Yahya bin Abi Kathir, Muqatil bin Hayyan and As-Suddi."Imam Bukhari relates that Muhammad said that one of the three who would have a double reward is "a master of a woman-slave who teaches her good manners and educates her in the best possible way (the religion) and manumits her and then marries her."(Sahih Bukhari, Book 3 "Knowledge", Hadith 97)
Its going to be hard to find an answer to this one. Maybe it is legal marriages that occurred before Islam not done in the Islamic manner. Lets look at this verse
24.31. And say to the believing women that they should lower their gaze and guard their modesty; that they should not display their beauty and ornaments except what (must ordinarily) appear thereof; that they should draw their veils over their bosoms and not display their beauty except to their husbands, their fathers, their husband's fathers, their sons, their husbands' sons, their brothers or their brothers' sons, or their sisters' sons, or their women, or the slaves whom their right hands possess, or male servants free of physical needs, or small children who have no sense of the shame of sex; and that they should not strike their feet in order to draw attention to their hidden ornaments. And O ye Believers! turn ye all together towards Allah, that ye may attain Bliss.
Now here the meaning can not be slaves since slaves are not family. Or maybe the verse implied the household members of which slaves were part of.
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If any of you have not the means wherewith to wed free believing women, they may wed believing girls from among those whom your right hands possess And Allah hath full knowledge about your faith. Ye are one from another Wed them with the leave of their owners, and give them their dowers, according to what is reasonable They should be chaste, not lustful, nor taking paramours when they are taken in wedlock, if they fall into shame, their punishment is half that for free women. This (permission) is for those among you who fear sin; but it is better for you that ye practise self-restraint. And Allah is Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful.
On seeing this part, and if I understand that we are talking about women captives, I wonder whether the use of aymanakum (plural) refers to all the muslims that keep captives and means that any muslim can marry any of those captives regardless of in whose hands she is, that is, a muslim can marry not only those he has as captives, but any captive any muslim may hold, provided the other requisites are met.
I think that a difficulty in interpretation on using translations is that some times they talk about slaves and some other about "your right hands possess, other as captives. It is very confusing.
Further, ?could it be that which your right hand possess is neither slaves, of course ?, neither captives, but rather "protected persons" who left their people to join muslims and were therefore alone and which muslims placed amonst themselves so as to given a home and who could be married or unmarried ? That would make sense, at least in some of the ayas.
Salaam
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http//submission.org/women/care.html
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Salaams All,
MA MALAKAT AYMANUKUM - every ayah where it accurs.
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If ye fear that ye shall not be able to deal justly with the orphans, Marry women of your choice, Two or three or four; but if ye fear that ye shall not be able to deal justly (with them), then only one, (TO BE) POSESSED BY YOUR OATH , that will be more suitable, to prevent you from doing injustice.
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Prohibited to you (For marriage) are- Your mothers, daughters, sisters; father's sisters, Mother's sisters; brother's daughters, sister's daughters; foster-mothers (Who gave you suck), foster-sisters; your wives' mothers; your step-daughters under your guardianship, born of your wives to whom ye have gone in,- no prohibition if ye have not gone in;- (Those who have been) wives of your sons proceeding from your loins; and two sisters in wedlock at one and the same time, except for what is past; for Allah is Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful;-Also (prohibited are) women already married, except those POSESSED BY YOUR OATH Thus hath Allah ordained (Prohibitions) against you Except for these, all others are lawful, provided ye seek (them in marriage) with gifts from your property,- desiring chastity, not lust, seeing that ye derive benefit from them, give them their dowers (at least) as prescribed; but if, after a dower is prescribed, agree Mutually (to vary it), there is no blame on you, and Allah is All-knowing, All-wise.
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If any of you have not the means wherewith to wed chaste believing women , they may wed believing girls(UN-CHASTE) from among those who WANT POSESSION OF YOUR OATH And Allah hath full knowledge about your faith. Ye are one from another Wed them with the leave of their GUARDIANS, and give them their dowers, IN A MANNER CHASTE NOT ADULTEROUS NOR GIVEN TO SECRET LOVE AFFAIRS and when they are taken in wedlock, if they fall into shame, their punishment is half that for chaste women. This (permission) is for those among you who fear sin; but it is better for you that ye practise self-restraint. And Allah is Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful.
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Serve Allah, and join not any partners with Him; and do good- to parents, kinsfolk, orphans, those in need, neighbours who are near, neighbours who are strangers, the companion by your side, the wayfarer (ye meet), AND WHAT YOU POSESS BY YOUR OATH For Allah loveth not the arrogant, the vainglorious;-
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Allah has bestowed His gifts of sustenance more freely on some of you than on others those more favoured are not going to throw back their gifts THOSE POSESSED BY THEIR OATH, so as to be equal in that respect. Will they then deny the favours of Allah?
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Except with their partners WHO ARE POSESSED BY THEIR OATH ,- for (in their case) they are free from blame,
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And say to the believing women that they should lower their gaze and guard their modesty; that they should not display their beauty and ornaments except what (must ordinarily) appear thereof; that they should draw their veils over their bosoms and not display their beauty except to their husbands, their fathers, their husband's fathers, their sons, their husbands' sons, their brothers or their brothers' sons, or their sisters' sons, or their women WHO ARE POSESSED BY THEIR OATH, or male servants free of physical needs, or small children who have no sense of the shame of sex; and that they should not strike their feet in order to draw attention to their hidden ornaments. And O ye Believers! turn ye all together towards Allah, that ye may attain Bliss.
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Let those who find not the wherewithal for marriage keep themselves chaste, until Allah gives them means out of His grace. And FOR THOSE WHO SEEK A WRITING (FOR-DOWRY/WEALTH) WHOM ARE POSESSED BY THEIR OATH , give them such a deed if ye know any good in them yea, give them WEALTH out of which Allah has given to you. But force not your GIRLS to prostitution when they desire chastity, in order that ye may make a gain in the goods of this life. But if anyone compels them, yet, after such compulsion, is Allah, Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful (to them),
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O ye who believe! let those who ARE POSESSED BY THEIR OATH, and the (children) among you who have not come of age ask your permission (before they come to your presence), on three occasions before morning prayer; the while ye doff your clothes for the noonday heat; and after the late-night prayer these are your three times of undress outside those times it is not wrong for you or for them to move about attending to each other Thus does Allah make clear the Signs to you for Allah is full of knowledge and wisdom.
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He does propound to you a similitude from your own (experience) do ye have partners among those who ARE POSESSED BY THEIR OATH, to share as equals in the wealth We have bestowed on you? Do ye fear them as ye fear each other? Thus do we explain the Signs in detail to a people that understand.
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O Prophet! We have made lawful to thee thy wives to whom thou hast paid their dowers; WHO ARE POSESSED BY THEIR OATH from those Allah has assigned to thee; and daughters of thy paternal uncles and aunts, and daughters of thy maternal uncles and aunts, who migrated with thee; and any believing woman who dedicates her soul to the Prophet if the Prophet wishes to wed her;- this only for thee, and not for the Believers (at large); We know what We have appointed for them as to their wives WHO ARE POSESSED BY THEIR OATHS ;- in order that there should be no difficulty for thee. And Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful.
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It is not lawful for thee (to marry more) women after this, nor to change them for (other) wives, even though their beauty attract thee, except WHO ARE POSESSED BY THEIR OATH and Allah doth watch over all things.
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There is no blame (on these ladies if they appear) before their fathers or their sons, their brothers, or their brother's sons, or their sisters' sons or their women who are WHAT POSESSED BY THEIR OATHS. And fear Allah; for Allah is Witness to all things.
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Except with their partners WHO ARE POSESSED BY THEIR OATH ,- for (in their case) they are free from blame.http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=11523.msg77955#msg77955
God Bless.
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http//submission.org/women/care.html
Above article is Trash. (I did not expect such a poor job from the guys at submission.org)
siki
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Above article is Trash. (I did not expect such a poor job from the guys at submission.org)
siki
You might explain how it is trash?
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Salaams All,
http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=11523.msg77955#msg77955
God Bless.
MZ
All of the above translations are wrong/twisted , disregarding simple grammar with an intent to negate the trandional thinking regarding MMA.
You may pick up any ayah and we can thrash it in detail (The arabic)
siki