Could the dabba be the internet?
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Salam,
But sis Samia creatures as such, (like animals) do not talk or spread the message of Allah. It could be the internet (a dabba - metaphorically) because it is creeping slowly and it is spreading the word of Islam. How many people found Islam or God Alone through the internet???? uncountable! people read, and research and chat and find more and more of the truth everyday.
We don't know how we or any other creature or element was created. That's Allah's business. We were formed from dirt. inside wet dirt there are all sorts of living micro-organisms. Maybe everything (including elements like metal, gold, rock, earth etc.) came from water.
We know that living organisms thrive in water. But there's no real indication that this dabba is a living creature in a biological sense.
http//www.submission.org/end.html
what do you think?
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Salaam peace4life
It depends what you start with. If you start with the internet, you can see it fits the "dabba" metaphorically. If you start with the verse, doing cross eferencing in the qur'aan, thies will hardly lead you to the internet. Besides, the only exceptional thing about this "dabba" is that it talks to people. The verse does not say that it will guide people or will even talk sense. It seems it is more of a curse and punishment than merci. usually translated as "the word of God fulfilled, aka before judgement day". The verse, as I understand it, says "When they die, we will bring out a "daabba" from earth telling them that people did not believe in our signs". It's kind of humiliation that they are as dumb as a daabba (there is a verse in this sense), and so they only understand a daabba that's as dumb as they are. Could it be the daabba is just maggots in the grave, showing them that they did not believe in God's signs, that they would die and become just bones, when maggots eat them up?
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Interesting viewpoint that made me reflect. Many people came to God Alone prior to the internet via pamphlets thru the post. Also the dabaa cannot be something that spreads evil. The web became the ultimate tool of perverts, pornographers, child abuse, adulterers, etc. So how can it show to people that they are unsure about the signs of God?
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Very interesting discussion indeed.
Well, why not include the computer along with it. The internet is a network of computers.
How are computers made? Well, computers are essentially IC (Integrated Circuit) chips which millons of transistors on them. The fundamental material IC chips are made from is Silicon, which comes from sand - very much from the earth!
"On Earth, silicon is the second most abundant element (after oxygen) in the crust, making up 25.7% of the crust by mass." http//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silicon
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Internet is only a system to facilitate communication same as a phone, television, newspaper, post office, telegraph, pony express, carrier pigeons, or floppy disks referred to as ?sneaker net? before it and all if put in a blender are made of earthly materials.
2782 is an allegorical verse in the category of 37 only Gods knows.
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The closest representation of "dabba" coming from the Internet would be a computer virus.
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Thanks for reminding us. We nearly forgot.
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Did I miss something?
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It may be that that happens because I have a Mac, but cannot be sure, because with or without Mac I rarely get what I intend. But sometimes, when I forget, and I look at it again and don't recognize it I find it funny. In fact right now I wast laughing like and idiot at my own non-jokes and then I look to see who had writen that, and was bewildered. May be I destabile the emoticons or they hide from me, or go on strike. But the mac might be in for something.
By Mac I mean apple. giveup hmm hmm O0 O0
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I came to God Alone via the web so could the creature be the internet instead. The computer never told me about truth, on the contrary. But the internet did.
When the Word falls on them, We shall bring forth for them out of the earth a beast that shall speak unto them 'Mankind had no faith in Our signs.'
Yes is about the number 666 and 8 31 1988. On August 31 1988 the IRC was first deployed http//www.livinginternet.com/r/ri_irc.htm
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Salam,
GV of 2782 = 6 17001 610070 130100630 703010540 16002003501 30540 4125 4050 1301200800 400203040540 150 13050160 2015061 2110400501 301 10610050650
Could be related to the invention of an Internet Relay Chat (IRC) by Jarkko (GV = 320020 = 223) Oikarinen (http//www.livinginternet.com/r/ri_irc.htm) where for the first time he launched the talker program at the end of August 1988. The cable used in internet is fiber optics made of silica http//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silicon_dioxide earthly materials.
GV of Internet Relay Chat (IRC) = 15040020050400 2003010 3400
1.1 The above GV and GV of IRC
"a beast that shall speak unto them "
4125 4050 1301200800 400203040540 15040020050400
2003010 3400 = 19 x 217126579632210947579054231 863237052737107369475268600.0000When the Word falls on them, We shall bring forth for them out of the earth a beast that shall speak unto them 'Mankind had no faith in Our signs.'
1.2 GV of 2782 and 8 31 1988 and 223
GV of Jarkko ? inventor of IRC = 320020 = 223
Software 1st launched on 8 31 19886 17001 610070 130100630 703010540 16002003501 30540 4125 4050 1301200800 400203040540 150 13050160 2015061 2110400501 301 10610050650 8 31 1988 223 = 19x 324737689510594789805633163442189484228954238969081079015852 673705273844238955270026400106055853212634217374242634244780 5894117.0000
1.3 GV of 2782 and 320020 and 8 31 1988
GV of Jarkko ? inventor of IRC = 320020 = 223
Software 1st launched on 8 31 19886 17001 610070 130100630 703010540 16002003501 30540 4125 4050 1301200800 400203040540 150 13050160 2015061 2110400501 301 10610050650 320020 8 31 1988 = 19 x 324737689510594789805633163442189484228954238969081079015852 673705273844238955270026400106055853212634217374242634244753 6853069052.0000
1.4 From verse 2783 to 1146 11 to 2782 and 223 and 1988
27 83 27 84 27 85 27 86 27 ... 27 79 27 80 27 81 27 82 223 1988 = 19 x 146488338308041 ... 49052.0000
1.5 From verse 2783 to 1146 11 to 2782 and 8 31 1988
27 83 27 84 27 ... 27 78 27 79 27 80 27 81 27 82 8 31 1988 =1 9 x 1464883383080413830909 ... 33069052.0000
hati