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Do we indirectly encourage murder?

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    Jack
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    #21

    Peace,

    Good points Wakas. I was wondering when you'd chime in.

    Hey OPF, what are your thoughts on the subject?

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      unknownuser
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      Quran makes its stance on state corruption very clear. Emigration. Presumably nobody is held accountable for other people's sins, but in this world, you get what you pay for.

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        shez
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        Either the rear end or a JDAM ;D

        It's nice and comfy on this side, thank you very much.

        but atleast you will have fellow muslims living with you, there will be Adhan called and etc..

        and i know a perfect islamic state doesnt exist.

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          Wakas
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          I should have added, what I said probably works for all tax systems, not just the UK.

          e.g. a company can engage in "loss-making" ventures (feeding the poor, community projects, media/resource distribution, donate to charity etc) resulting in less profit to tax, so if you own a company, basically run all your zkw/betterment activity through it.

          All information is correct to the best of my knowledge only and thus should not be taken as a fact. One should always seek knowledge and verify for themselves when possible: 17:36, 20:114, 35:28, 49:6, 58:11.

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            Tay
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            Peace DArgento, all,

            As a tax-paying American am I indirectly supporting murder by paying my taxes, the same taxes that finance these wars?

            I had this same dilemma a while back and in discussing it with a former member, he suggested I become a sovereign entity
            I chose not to go that route and weigh what was really at stake. In the real world of shades of gray, nothing is really as simple as "just emigrate" or "don't pay your taxes". Everything has a consequence and unfortunately, not paying taxes puts you in jail, emigrating puts you in a foreign country, and both keep you from helping your loved ones - morally, financially, and spiritually.

            If you're flying solo, then it's easy to fly under the radar and land in Costa Rica or Belize or somewhere less "visible". There you can be an inactive member of worshipdom.

            But if you have roots that need watering, then I'd say do your best to contribute as little as possible to the system financially, and as much as possible to reform. It's been said and pretty well-documented that income tax never finds it's way back to the American people, but right into the pockets of the privately owned Federal Reserve. Ron Paul seems to have a bead on that so we really should be doing all we can to spread his gospel. And Wakas' suggestion of having your own business is, imo, really the only way to truly control your own financial output. That combined with precise donating and charity seems, to me, to be a great recipe and the make-up of a "good-doer".

            If you work for someone, unfortunately the money's dissected and handed out before your portion ever reaches you. However, a seasoned gymnastic accountant can do well to get a good chunk of that back for you - and then you pump that money into goodwill. I believe in the year 2000, Wachovia Bank actually got a few million dollars back from the IRS as it claimed a loss, yet still managed to increase it's stock value and post record earnings. Tax shelters, go figure.

            Peace,
            Tay

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