David Copperfield
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Salaam,
When David Blaine went to Africa to show his tricks people were saying he knows black magic and he told them he does not know any magic but is only playing tricks. He is a mind reader and considered evil here in the UK. People insulted him when he was doing one of his performances here so his magic did not work on the minds of British people.
However I also heard about a programme, shown only once on British TV, where a group explained about hypnotism of the most advance form where they have group of people who work in their work shops thinking they are only learning sports or other skill but actually these people are hypnotised to carry out the most heinous crimes without having a clue about it. Evil practice. I also suspect that some of these people end up carrying out suicide missions while hypnotised. hmmDavid Blaine has nothing to do with black magic or any "evil" practices. He is an illusionist and a mentalist, and hypnosis has nothing to do with those two things. Nor can he "read minds."
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Peace Amid,
Hold up I wanna get this straight. You said "If it's so fake, please explain how he did it."
Are you telling me that you believe he really passed through solid matter? Simple question, yes or no. laugh
No, I'm not saying I believe it. I just want to hear your explanation for how he did it...
Peace Abdelilah,
The explanation is the same as to how Criss Angel could not only put his hand through a glass window, but his whole body; the glass window moves.
Okay... HOW?!? It's not possible. Science has already proven that glass is actually a liquid compound, not a solid. However, do you know how hot something must be, or how fast the particles of a solid object must be moving, in order to pass through a glass window without breaking it? It's physiologically impossible for a human to do that. That's why I want to know how they did it. For them to do it in front of live audiences and in a continuous-shot video, it can't be staged. So, how did they do this? Has this been debunked by anybody yet?
Peace,
Ahmad
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Peace Ahmad
Peace Abdelilah,
Okay... HOW?!? It's not possible. Science has already proven that glass is actually a liquid compound, not a solid. However, do you know how hot something must be, or how fast the particles of a solid object must be moving, in order to pass through a glass window without breaking it? It's physiologically impossible for a human to do that. That's why I want to know how they did it. For them to do it in front of live audiences and in a continuous-shot video, it can't be staged. So, how did they do this? Has this been debunked by anybody yet?
The glass window MOVES AWAY. Google 'through' 'glass' 'revealed'.
Abdelilah
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Peace Amid,
No, I'm not saying I believe it. I just want to hear your explanation for how he did it...
My friend, you need to listen to yourself and what you're saying. you keep saying you don't believe that he did it, yet you continue to say things like it is physologically impossible. Of course it is impossible to pass through solid matter. That is why they are illusionists. They perform illusions in order to elicit reactions such as yours.
How could David Copperfield pass through the wall of china? Isn't it impossible? Yes, passing through the wall of china is impossible physically, because it is solid matter. Unless God wills and gives you some paranormal ability, you cannot pass through the wall of china. That is why this is an illusion that has been debunked more than 10 years ago. You can probably find it everywhere on Google. The same goes for the Statue of Liberty, and many, many, many other illusions.
Why do you keep ignoring everything I say in my previous posts? You keep implying that if there is an illusion that hasn't been debunked, then it's not an illusion, but the real thing? You're not making sense at all. Not every single illusion has been explained in detail, but about 90% of the greatest illusions performed by the greatest magicians have been debunked. If some of the greatest illusions have been debunked, why are you stuck on David Blaine moving his hand through a glass window?
Here's a good one for you http//de.youtube.com/watch?v=25dNZhgVrkc
In that clip, Criss Angel teleports a man and woman. Amazing, huh? Well, no. On a radio show a while ago Criss Angel personally admitted he used twins for that trick. It was all an act, and they were not "randomly selected" from the group. On cue, at the same time, the first pair moves to the side, and the other pair moves to their position.
But let me guess, you probably don't believe in that, and believe he really teleported them. laugh
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Amid,
You sound like a fool, and I guess no matter how short my statement was to you, you're somehow incapable of understanding a simple statement like the one I made... Look again, buddy. This was about more than just reaching through a glass window; it was about all of the other feats I mentioned, performed by David Blaine. When it came to his illusion of passing through the glass, I clearly said
No, I'm not saying I believe it. I just want to hear your explanation for how he did it...
So, what was all that other stuff about?! If you're not going to answer the simple question, instead blabbering on and on about useless information not relating to the issue, then just be quiet and don't say anything... Now, if you're going to provide an explanation for what I asked, then do so. If not, then I don't have any further words for you. Plain and simple.
Peace,
Ahmad
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David Blaine has nothing to do with black magic or any "evil" practices. He is an illusionist and a mentalist, and hypnosis has nothing to do with those two things. Nor can he "read minds."
Salaam
When did I say that David Blaine has anything to do with black magic read my post carefully.
I see that you have had some experience which has convinced you that someone, other than God, can change the course of anyone's life. This thinking is shirk! NO one, other than God, can change what lies ahead for you; it may appear to them that they did but no way is it so. 1267And he said "My sons, do not enter from one gate, but enter from separate gates; and I cannot avail you anything against God, for the judgment is to God. In Him I put my trust, and in Him those who put their trust should trust.
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Salaam
When did I say that David Blaine has anything to do with black magic read my post carefully.
I see that you have had some experience which has convinced you that someone, other than God, can change the course of anyone's life. This thinking is shirk! NO one, other than God, can change what lies ahead for you; it may appear to them that they did but no way is it so. 1267And he said "My sons, do not enter from one gate, but enter from separate gates; and I cannot avail you anything against God, for the judgment is to God. In Him I put my trust, and in Him those who put their trust should trust.
peaceYou are very confused. I never once said that anybody other than God can change anybody's course of life. The actions by humans can and do change the your course of your life, but it is by God's will/permission of course. If a murderer breaks into someone's home while they're away, and murders that person's entire family, something like that will dramatically change the course of that person's life, but it is because God permitted it. Or else, it wouldn't have happened.
If someone wins the lottery, it is by God's will. If someone gets cancer, it is by God's will. Or else it wouldn't have happened. The same goes if a person pushes you down the stairs and you end up in wheelchair. That was God's will too, and yes, that person changed the course of your life.
Nothing happens that isn't permitted by God. Or another way to say it is, nothing happens without God's permission.
You should try to understand my posts before you decide to bash me.
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You are very confused. I never once said that anybody other than God can change anybody's course of life.
Nothing happens that isn't permitted by God. Or another way to say it is, nothing happens without God's permission.You should try to understand my posts before you decide to bash me.
Salaam Amid
I am sorry but you are the one who appears confused as no one is bashing you. Just becasue you had some experience there is no need to be rude to others. I suggest you just stick to the discussion.
So are you saying that God gives go-ahead for men to do evil or do they chose to follow Satan's way?The actions by humans can and do change the your course of your life, but it is by God's will/permission of course.
If a murderer breaks into someone's home while they're away, and murders that person's entire family, something like that will dramatically change the course of that person's life, but it is because God permitted it. Or else, it wouldn't have happened.3154 .....They say (to themselves) "If we had had anything to do with this affair, We should not have been in the slaughter here." Say "Even if you had remained in your homes, those for whom death was decreed would certainly have gone forth to the place of their death"; but (all this was) that Allah might test what is in your breasts and purge what is in your hearts. For Allah knoweth well the secrets of your hearts
If someone wins the lottery, it is by God's will. If someone gets cancer, it is by God's will. Or else it wouldn't have happened. The same goes if a person pushes you down the stairs and you end up in wheelchair. That was God's will too, and yes, that person changed the course of your life.
You are confusing two things above; one is your own actions and the other is occurences, out of your control, like illness, death.
If someone else pushes you down he earns a sin, for what could have been decreed for you, like accidently slipping from the stairs and ending up in a wheel chair anyway. 160. If Allah helps you, none can overcome you If He forsakes you, who is there, after that, that can help you? in Allah, then, Let believers put their trust.For our actions God has given us free will and intelligence to, either use it according to the guidance from God, or to fall pray to Satan, and use it for temperory gains like winning at lottery and getting rich without any hard work or work utilizing your full potential and experience life to its fullest.
Now I ask you to answer this Did angels really come to help or was it a pshychological ploy to boost the strength of the fighters, seeing that human brain is capable of great feats?
3 124. Remember thou saidst to the Faithful "Is it not enough for you that Allah should help you with three thousand angels (Specially) sent down?
125. "Yea, - if ye remain firm, and act aright, even if the enemy should rush here on you in hot haste, your Lord would help you with five thousand angels Making a terrific onslaught.
3126. Allah made it but a message of hope for you, and an assurance to your hearts (in any case) there is no help except from Allah. The Exalted, the Wise
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Salaam Amid
I am sorry but you are the one who appears confused as no one is bashing you. Just becasue you had some experience there is no need to be rude to others. I suggest you just stick to the discussion.
So are you saying that God gives go-ahead for men to do evil or do they chose to follow Satan's way?
3154 .....They say (to themselves) "If we had had anything to do with this affair, We should not have been in the slaughter here." Say "Even if you had remained in your homes, those for whom death was decreed would certainly have gone forth to the place of their death"; but (all this was) that Allah might test what is in your breasts and purge what is in your hearts. For Allah knoweth well the secrets of your hearts
You are confusing two things above; one is your own actions and the other is occurences, out of your control, like illness, death.
If someone else pushes you down he earns a sin, for what could have been decreed for you, like accidently slipping from the stairs and ending up in a wheel chair anyway. 160. If Allah helps you, none can overcome you If He forsakes you, who is there, after that, that can help you? in Allah, then, Let believers put their trust.For our actions God has given us free will and intelligence to, either use it according to the guidance from God, or to fall pray to Satan, and use it for temperory gains like winning at lottery and getting rich without any hard work or work utilizing your full potential and experience life to its fullest.
Now I ask you to answer this Did angels really come to help or was it a pshychological ploy to boost the strength of the fighters, seeing that human brain is capable of great feats?
3 124. Remember thou saidst to the Faithful "Is it not enough for you that Allah should help you with three thousand angels (Specially) sent down?
125. "Yea, - if ye remain firm, and act aright, even if the enemy should rush here on you in hot haste, your Lord would help you with five thousand angels Making a terrific onslaught.
3126. Allah made it but a message of hope for you, and an assurance to your hearts (in any case) there is no help except from Allah. The Exalted, the Wise
peaceFree will has nothing to do with anything that I experienced, nor do you know anything about me. It also looks foolish when someone judges people they know nothing about. The verses you posted have nothing to do with this discussion. Your accusation was that I supposedly believed that "people" change someone's course of life and not Allah. That is a complete misrepresentation of my beliefs.
You are pasting verses which I agree with completely.
Now let me ask you this do you believe that you have complete free will?
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Free will has nothing to do with anything that I experienced, nor do you know anything about me. It also looks foolish when someone judges people they know nothing about. The verses you posted have nothing to do with this discussion. Your accusation was that I supposedly believed that "people" change someone's course of life and not Allah. That is a complete misrepresentation of my beliefs.
You are pasting verses which I agree with completely.
Salaam Amid
I am not concerned about what you experienced nor do I doubt what you had to go through, but since I am not in a positon to judge anyone, I leave it as only your experience. It does not change the way I look at life; it all depends upon our perceptions.Now let me ask you this do you believe that you have complete free will?
Only after you answer what I asked you first. peace
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Salaam Amid
I am not concerned about what you experienced nor do I doubt what you had to go through, but since I am not in a positon to judge anyone, I leave it as only your experience. It does not change the way I look at life; it all depends upon our perceptions.Great, I'm glad to hear that.
Only after you answer what I asked you first. peace
If your question had any relevance to the discussion in this thread David Copperfield, David Blaine, illusionists, mentalism, etc., then I would. But it doesn't.
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If your question had any relevance to the discussion in this thread David Copperfield, David Blaine, illusionists, mentalism, etc., then I would. But it doesn't.
If you pay attention to my question, you would realise that how relevant it is to this discussion, and our mindset. Once you understand that you would think less of DC & DB and say; By the will of God its amazing that a human brain is capable of great feats or else you can live rest of your life in fear of black magic and the concept that other people's acts can change course of your life, the choice is yours.
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The life of the world is merely a deception, it has been created by our Lord so that he may test mankind who is best in conduct, he has laid down the foundations that we are to follow and those who trespass beyond the set limits will be penalised with damnation in the life to come.
This gentlemen known as david copperfield has the assistance of the jinns to carry out his magic, do not forget that he belongs to the sect of jews who follow the karbala, this is jewish mystism or to put it black magic, as you might recall the two angels harut and marut descended unto babylon and showed great feats of magic, but they warned mankind not to follow it, they showed it as way of example, but the Jinns taught man some magic in turn for his soul. David copperfield's magic is real, he has jinns assisting him.