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    salam
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    Peace be upon you all.

    I'm Mohammad from Saudi Arabia, ex-sunni, and a new member of ahl alquran.

    The reason of me leaving almathhab alsunni is that some Islamic teachings that I grew up hearing didn't seem right/logical to me, and I've been feeling self-guilt for not practicing it, or practicing something regarded as Haram in the sunni teaching (having a dog for example). I didn't know back then that these teaching are an addition to the pure way.

    However, I feel somehow lost. I'm struggling in two things, and I need some of you to show me where to find the answers I'm seeking.

    First, back to my sunni days, I had fixed rules and ways in worshiping Allah. Now, because I'm not a Sunni anymore, I don't want to mix things up.
    Is there any topics in the forum or books that can help me overcome this issue?

    Also, when I talk or think about the prophet Mohammad peace be upon him, my knowledge is 90% from the Hadeeth. Now, because I don't trust the Hadeeths as a protected and a reliable source for all the right reasons, I don't know how to know about my beloved the prophet Mohammad.

    Thank you very much, and I pray to Allah that I can also benefit and help you in this forum.

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      huruf
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      Salaam, Salam

      I will tell you my view as to the Prophet. The Prophet was sent to deliver the truthful Qur'an. He delivered it. He accepted his mission, he suffered for it, he struggled for it and he delivered it. He came for that, Allah asked him to do that and he did it. So much so that many centuries after that nobody has been able to distort it. He was a servant, who served Humanity and worshipped Allah, as we all should. Alhamdulillah.

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        salam
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        Thank you huruf for your quick reply.

        What you are saying is the truth, and every Muslim must believe in what you summarized.

        I was wondering can the story of the prophet Mohammad be told without the aid of the Sunna and Hadeeth?

        To know the life of the prophet is important to me but not essential for being a Muslim. I just love his personality as described in the Quran and I want to read more about him. In other words, is there an approved story or deeds of the prophet. And can you lead me to the verses in the Quran which speaks about the prophet? I will be so thankful.

        I must stop being lazy and start reading and analyzing the Quran.

        Salam.

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          huruf
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          I am also new in free-minds, so I am not the best source of knowledge and I am a lost case for memory. I guess you can search the concordance for Muhammad and see the ayas where he is mentiones, but the ayas without the name are very numerous, may be another of the members can give you better advice.

          On the other hand, while nothing has the guaranty of the Qur'an I guess that we can learn from other siras or texts provided we always exercise some judgement as to the content.

          Be it as it may, I think you will eventually learn everything you need, everything is there, just take your time and be a little patient, it will come to you.

          Visit the site www.studyquran.org, you have all kinds of tools there to find anything you care for. After, if there is something which you want particularly discussed you can post it.

          Salaam and may the most Merciful be your guide.

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            salam
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            Thank you huruf that was helpful.

            May Allah's peace be upon you brother.

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              AlFajr
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              Thank you huruf that was helpful.

              May Allah's peace be upon you brother.

              Welcome Mohammad welcome
              Huruf is a sister -X

              Don't worry I made the same mistake

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                salam
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                Ops sorry huruf, May Allah's peace be upon you sister.

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                  unknownuser
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                  Peace is on him who follows the guidance! 20-47

                  Welcome. Happy to see one more Quran follower among us. and especially from Saudia Arabia. I always wondered if there could be only Quran follower. It seems it can be. Elhemdulillah

                  Follow this path and inshallah your last terminal will be Paradise. Amin

                  "O Yahya! take hold of the Book with might" and We gave him Wisdom even as a youth 19-12

                  Salam aleykum

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                    salam
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                    Peace is on him who follows the guidance! 20-47

                    Welcome. Happy to see one more Quran follower among us. and especially from Saudia Arabia. I always wondered if there could be only Quran follower. It seems it can be. Elhemdulillah

                    Follow this path and inshallah your last terminal will be Paradise. Amin

                    "O Yahya! take hold of the Book with might" and We gave him Wisdom even as a youth 19-12

                    Salam aleykum

                    Believe me 20-47 there are a lot of Saudis who think and speak like a Quran follower, the problem is that they don't know that there's such thing as Quranist exists. Any sane, logical, and intellectual person will not hold the Hadeeth above the Quran.

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                      peace salam,

                      Your best source for info on what messengers/prophets were like would be al quran. In the link www.studyquran.org there is a topic index, and Muhammad is there if you wish to research it. The following is a cut & paste

                      Muhammad 472

                      • admonished
                        o avoiding sex with wives due to problems with them 661
                        o hiding a particular revelation 3337
                        o tempted by Quraysh to compromise the message 1773-75
                        o turning away from a blind man while persuading politically powerful 801-10
                        o verbalizing revelations in progress too hastily 7516-19
                      • almost tempted to corrupt the message 1773
                        o punishment had he 1775
                      • as judge for followers 465
                      • dares not alter the Qur'an nor act contrarily 1015, 5311, 6944-47
                      • died June 8, 632
                      • divorce 3352
                      • exemptions from "regular" marriage laws 3351
                      • like of a pretty woman 3352
                      • marriage
                        o kinship allowances in 3350
                        o restrictions 3352
                      • mystical ascension 536-18
                      • not
                        o a madman 7184, 5229, 532, 682, 8122
                        o a poet 6941
                        o a soothsayer 5229, 6942
                      • only a
                        o plain warner 3345, 3524, 469, 488
                        o prophet 3144, 650, 7188
                      • orphanhood and poverty 936-8
                      • prayed for the non-believing Uncle who raised him (enjoined not to) 9113
                      • reacted against something lawful 661
                      • "seal" of the prophets 3340
                      • summons from 2463
                      • taking leave of 2462
                      • tortured by pre-revelatory philosophical questions? 937, 941-3
                      • turned away the blind man 801-10
                      • unaware of the import of some revelation given him 123, 4252
                      • unlettered prophet 7157, 7158, 622
                      • visiting wives 351
                      • widowed wives not allowed to remarry 3353

                      All information is correct to the best of my knowledge only and thus should not be taken as a fact. One should always seek knowledge and verify for themselves when possible: 17:36, 20:114, 35:28, 49:6, 58:11.

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                        M_Mehdi
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                        Salam br. Mohammad,

                        the problem is that they don't know that there's such thing as Quranist exists.

                        Quranist is man made term and label just like sunni, shia etc. etc.. It appears you have come out of one man made sect and wish to join another? Well, at least that's what your words are alluding to. Was Abraham, Musa, Isa, etc.. etc.. etc.. "quranists?"

                        It's one thing to understand how man has crept into and corroupted the Deen but it's another to run all the way around only to complete a circle back to where you started from.

                        peace. peace

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                          zenje
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                          Peace be with you Mohammad and welcome to the forum.

                          Say ?Shall we call upon other than God what cannot benefit us or harm us, and we turn back on our heels after God has guided us?? This is like the one whom the devils have managed to mislead on Earth, he is confused, having friends who call him to the guidance ?Come to us!? Say ?The guidance is God?s guidance, and we have been ordered to submit to the Lord of the worlds.?

                          peace

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                            nogodbutgod114
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                            Salam br. Mohammad,

                            Quranist is man made term and label just like sunni, shia etc. etc.. It appears you have come out of one man made sect and wish to join another? Well, at least that's what your words are alluding to. Was Abraham, Musa, Isa, etc.. etc.. etc.. "quranists?"

                            It's one thing to understand how man has crept into and corroupted the Deen but it's another to run all the way around only to complete a circle back to where you started from.

                            peace. peace

                            Peace

                            Good point. There are submitters (i.e. "muslims&quot in all the Book religions, like Hindus (see Gita on Bhakti Yoga), Buddhists, Jews, Christians, etc. Submission to God (i.e. "islam&quot is not a sect but is the essence of all religions.

                            God knows best (Allahu alim)

                            Dan

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                              nogodbutgod114
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                              Peace be with you Mohammad and welcome to the forum.

                              Say ?Shall we call upon other than God what cannot benefit us or harm us, and we turn back on our heels after God has guided us?? This is like the one whom the devils have managed to mislead on Earth, he is confused, having friends who call him to the guidance ?Come to us!? Say ?The guidance is God?s guidance, and we have been ordered to submit to the Lord of the worlds.?

                              peace

                              Peace

                              That's awesome. If you please, whereabouts is that quote located in Quran? Also, which translation are you using?

                              Thanks,

                              Dan

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                                zenje
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                                671 I should have posted it with the verse. The translation I used is - The Message

                                Peace

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                                  M_Mehdi
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                                  Peace Dan,

                                  There are submitters (i.e. "muslims&quot in all the Book religions, like Hindus (see Gita on Bhakti Yoga), Buddhists, Jews, Christians, etc. Submission to God (i.e. "islam&quot is not a sect but is the essence of all religions.

                                  God knows best (Allahu alim)

                                  There is ultimatley only One Deen. group

                                  Peace be on you. peace

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                                    Dotty
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                                    welcome to the forum. I'm sure you will find many good people here who really care.

                                    peace,
                                    dotty

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                                      ILisa
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                                      Greetings salam,

                                      welcome

                                      It's great to see you here and to hear about you. It gives me great hope that things CAN be different in the 'Islamic' world.

                                      God bless.

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                                        Jack
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                                        Peace and welcome

                                        Read the quran like you don't know anything and study it's words.

                                        I and many others have been where you are now.

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                                          salam
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                                          Salam br. Mohammad,

                                          Quranist is man made term and label just like sunni, shia etc. etc.. It appears you have come out of one man made sect and wish to join another? Well, at least that's what your words are alluding to. Was Abraham, Musa, Isa, etc.. etc.. etc.. "quranists?"

                                          It's one thing to understand how man has crept into and corroupted the Deen but it's another to run all the way around only to complete a circle back to where you started from.

                                          peace. peace

                                          Sorry if my words made you think I mean that. I used the word "Quranist" to make things clear (is that what labels are for?), I won't join a man-made sect after Allah showed me the path out of it. Following God's words ONLY is by no means a man made sect, I understand that well.

                                          It's not easy to get over a 20 years of brain washing.

                                          Thank you for correcting me brother peace

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